Club Statement

Briggs5 said:
Never dull at this club, is it?
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It's been phucking dull for the last 12 months!! What it is, is a bit of a phucked up club, it's nothing like we expected or wanted it to be after the vermin were booted out. What should have been an ongoing joy fest turned into a weird, stagnant, dull football club in no time at all and there is a real cloud over the place again. I really hope Sadler wants to sell the club, because I think he made a massive error purchasing it. This is without this new revelation. It's all very unsettling.
 
Not sure they could say anything else really but it’s horribly phrased. I think Sadler penned it himself

Another situation we could do without at best. Disastrously damaging at worst.
 
I think Sadler did a very good job when he first took over the club and didn’t warrant any criticism. However there has definitely been a change in the way we have recruited players over the last two and a half seasons and not for the better. I am a Blackpool fan and not a Simon Sadler fan and I just want what is best for the club. I believe the owner will be challenged a little more in future if no investment in the playing side is made and that is a good thing.
Sadly I must have missed the open top bus parade and lifting of the trophy for playing nicely and fairly and spending within our means. I would much rather the team be a bit more nasty and hard to play against than nicey nicey we will take the knee and be nice to everyone.

I really hope there is much more investment in the playing side and that the manager is heavily scrutinised to see if there is any improvement in the performances even at a very early stage.

I havent given up on the owner doing the right thing for the playing and recruitment side but I do believe he has been partially culpable for our downward trend.

Obviously I am an entitled fan and should expect less from little old Blackpool.
 
I think all we can do is...

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To compare Pilley to Sadler crazy Pilley stole and ruined countless peoples lives, First it will be likely it will be one of his staff CEO's dont normally trade much but responsible for it's running it's like getting a tip from a dodgy horse trainer. Sadler's company has had secret knowlege from inside a company that will affect future share price or future Eg. like getting accounts before they are released.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
Can't see anything but relegation next year. There is already an abundance of negativity around the club so this just adds to it.
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6am on a Friday, a few days after the season's end, and you're on here talking about relegation next season. I can only applaud the commitment to the bit, to be honest.
 
Lets be honest the recent club statements look like they have been written by a teenage girl going through puberty

Knee jerk at best

What happened to the racist fan that the club jumped on for allegedly abusing that player?
 
People saying it involves junior staff so wouldn't affect the man at the top misunderstand the nature of regulation and obligation in this area. He could still do time under such circumstances. Its a very serious business so a short sharp statement is probably for the best. Its still a horribly worded short statement though.
 
Enzo said:
The efl’s fit and proper test working perfectly again then
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So you've judged him guilty then have you?

On what basis are the clairvoyants at the EFL supposed to judge future allegations against prospective purchasers of clubs.

Good grief it's only 3rd May, this is going to be a very long summer on here.
 
hertfordseasider said:
It's been phucking dull for the last 12 months!! What it is, is a bit of a phucked up club, it's nothing like we expected or wanted it to be after the vermin were booted out. What should have been an ongoing joy fest turned into a weird, stagnant, dull football club in no time at all and there is a real cloud over the place again. I really hope Sadler wants to sell the club, because I think he made a massive error purchasing it. This is without this new revelation. It's all very unsettling.
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Make him an offer for it then.
 
Meliora said:
So you've judged him guilty then have you?

On what basis are the clairvoyants at the EFL supposed to judge future allegations against prospective purchasers of clubs.

Good grief it's only 3rd May, this is going to be a very long summer on here.
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Why have it then? I’d of preferred us to stick with Belokon at least we had some success with him
 
clappers said:
People saying it involves junior staff so wouldn't affect the man at the top misunderstand the nature of regulation and obligation in this area. He could still do time under such circumstances. Its a very serious business so a short sharp statement is probably for the best. Its still a horribly worded short statement though.
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Perhaps could have been worded differently but thats just semantics.

The message is clear. Its unrelated to the football club and its business as usual.

It has to be short and to the point and the statement achieves that.

Let Simon get on with what he needs to do.
 
You have to bear in mind that this is now subject to the Hong Kong justice system. The impacts are not just legal they are reputational foe the business and if I was Sadler I would be thinking about surgery in all his businesses and may be some rebranding. The beginning of the end I suspect at BFC. He will be sh**ing himself.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
I just find it rather laughable after all the shit Pilley got on here for being a crook we've now got the owner of BFC under suspicion of a charge he’s denying just like Pilley did.

Still I’m sure he’s innocent. 🫣
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Pilley was a wrong un over decades, as was pointed out numerous times, and was convicted of essentially robbing the vulnerable with the tariffing system.

This is completely different.
 
AngelBFC said:
Do you know what you are on about ?

Belokon wasnt interested in owning the football club.

He walked off into the sunset with his money and since then has had his main business raided and closed down.
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That's not right
The fact was he was told he failed the ODT (after the O's gleefully reported his conviction and the Paris judgment) and so was prevented from having an active role at BFC without securing dispensation from the EFL which was somewhat ironic in view of the lack of action over Owen
Coupled with that he then went through a very expensive divorce and was advised by CC that he faced a battle to get the EFL to lift his bar - I know he spent a fair old bit with them trying to get dispensation
In all my dealings with him he was prepared to stay and even willing to drop his case if Owen sold
Of course VB never expected to get what he did - he rolled the dice and got double six. His own lawyers didn't even advance a claim at that level in their final arguments.
Even then he was willing to stay (and had negotiations with third parties on that basis). It was only when the US started flexing their muscles re Latvian banks he rightly had to focus on that - that was perhaps late 2018 so over 12 months after the judgment.
Sometimes there's just too many things in the way
As it happens it was probably for the best in view of what followed
And of course that huge award is ultimately why we were able to ' get the Oystons out '
Not many know this but VB took some persuading to put the CAR in as he was worried what we'd all think if the club got a points deduction and were relegated as a result ( and that was a real concern ). I had to plead with him to do it.
Does that sound like someone who just wanted his money ?
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
That's not right
The fact was he was told he failed the ODT (after the O's gleefully reported his conviction and the Paris judgment) and so was prevented from having an active role at BFC without securing dispensation from the EFL which was somewhat ironic in view of the lack of action over Owen
Coupled with that he then went through a very expensive divorce and was advised by CC that he faced a battle to get the EFL to lift his bar - I know he spent a fair old bit with them trying to get dispensation
In all my dealings with him he was prepared to stay and even willing to drop his case if Owen sold
Of course VB never expected to get what he did - he rolled the dice and got double six. His own lawyers didn't even advance a claim at that level in their final arguments.
Even then he was willing to stay (and had negotiations with third parties on that basis). It was only when the US started flexing their muscles re Latvian banks he rightly had to focus on that - that was perhaps late 2018 so over 12 months after the judgment.
Sometimes there's just too many things in the way
As it happens it was probably for the best in view of what followed
And of course that huge award is ultimately why we were able to ' get the Oystons out '
Not many know this but VB took some persuading to put the CAR in as he was worried what we'd all think if the club got a points deduction and were relegated as a result ( and that was a real concern ). I had to plead with him to do it.
Does that sound like someone who just wanted his money ?
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Before the trial didnt he go and see Owen in Estepona for a cash settlement which would have meant we would have been stuck with the Oystons ?
 
Wizaard said:
Pilley was a wrong un over decades, as was pointed out numerous times, and was convicted of essentially robbing the vulnerable with the tariffing system.

This is completely different.
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And as I’ve already said many times Pilley got what he deserved (not 14 years mind)

I’ll pass judgement on Sadler if/when he’s been convicted of a crime if at all because no one on here knows the legal system in Hong Kong and how it works.

At the end of the day Sadler has been charged with an offence whatever anyone on here tries to say otherwise so let’s see how things pan out.
 
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NewburyOne said:
Is that fact or rumours? If anything came out of such a meeting, who would it benefit most? I think I'll file that under Oyston Propaganda.
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Tam knows.

Think the amount Val would have accepted was relatively small unnall by all accounts .

His qc didn’t suggest he wanted the club .

www.bbc.co.uk

Blackpool boss 'should buy out president' - BBC News

Valeri Belokon's QC alleges the Oystons' "misconduct" in club dealings made "a pretty ugly picture".
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
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AngelBFC said:
Before the trial didnt he go and see Owen in Estepona for a cash settlement which would have meant we would have been stuck with the Oystons ?
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If OO paid VB out that route would always have closed off

If I am honest after 7-8 years and with everything that went on I can't recall if that's right ( sound like a PO witness 🤣 )

There was an offer made but I didn't think it was in person - that was around May 2017 through CC and was referenced in support of the costs orders made

The point I was making was slightly different - namely that he was prepared to stay under certain conditions and was concerned about the impact of his actions on BFC so not just looking to take his money and run

Of course as you and I know if offers are made and you don't consider them you can effectively lose a civil case even if you win
 
Hong Kong’s financial regulator has launched criminal proceedings against Simon Sadler, the owner of Blackpool Football Club, and the hedge fund he founded, Segantii Capital Management, over allegations of insider trading. The Securities and Futures Commission also said it had started proceedings against former Segantii trader Daniel LaRocca. Sadler and LaRocca were both released on a cash bail of HK$1 million (£102,000) and HK$500,000 respectively. Segantii pledged to “defend itself vigorously” against the charges. - The Times

Not sure it’s been mentioned that HK $500,000 Bail on LaRocca. Mentioned in The Times
 
Anyway you look at this, it’s potentially serious, these ar criminal charges and the fallout will impact the club
 
hertfordseasider said:
It's been phucking dull for the last 12 months!! What it is, is a bit of a phucked up club, it's nothing like we expected or wanted it to be after the vermin were booted out. What should have been an ongoing joy fest turned into a weird, stagnant, dull football club in no time at all and there is a real cloud over the place again. I really hope Sadler wants to sell the club, because I think he made a massive error purchasing it. This is without this new revelation. It's all very unsettling.
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What a ridiculous post.
 
Matesrates said:
Anyway you look at this, it’s potentially serious, these ar criminal charges and the fallout will impact the club
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Some are saying that one doesn't impact on the other. It's quite obvious they do. Put simply if SS gets fined heavily will he still have the same amount of money to spend on BFC?

This is one reason why I've banged on about debt on BFC's books, especially post TG and the East. But, nah, he's golden is the reply I get.
 
AngelBFC said:
Tam knows.
Think the amount Val would have accepted was relatively small unnall by all accounts .
His qc didn’t suggest he wanted the club .

www.bbc.co.uk

Blackpool boss 'should buy out president' - BBC News

Valeri Belokon's QC alleges the Oystons' "misconduct" in club dealings made "a pretty ugly picture".
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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If I recall correctly, once Belokon realised he had been shafted when the club gave old Catweazle an £11,000,000 one-off payment, instead of dividends for all shareholders, he started legal proceedings. In the early stages of that, apparently VB offered to halt all proceedings and go away for ca £7,000,000 settlement incl all his shares, loans, everything.

Koko urged Catweazle to accept but he refused (allegedly because there was no written shareholders’ agreement) which was the start of their mutual animosity and parting. And then VB hit the jackpot in the High Court when Judge Marcus Smith (PBUH) decided to punish Catweazle for prejudicial treatment of shareholders, pour encourager les autres.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
That's not right
The fact was he was told he failed the ODT (after the O's gleefully reported his conviction and the Paris judgment) and so was prevented from having an active role at BFC without securing dispensation from the EFL which was somewhat ironic in view of the lack of action over Owen
Coupled with that he then went through a very expensive divorce and was advised by CC that he faced a battle to get the EFL to lift his bar - I know he spent a fair old bit with them trying to get dispensation
In all my dealings with him he was prepared to stay and even willing to drop his case if Owen sold
Of course VB never expected to get what he did - he rolled the dice and got double six. His own lawyers didn't even advance a claim at that level in their final arguments.
Even then he was willing to stay (and had negotiations with third parties on that basis). It was only when the US started flexing their muscles re Latvian banks he rightly had to focus on that - that was perhaps late 2018 so over 12 months after the judgment.
Sometimes there's just too many things in the way
As it happens it was probably for the best in view of what followed
And of course that huge award is ultimately why we were able to ' get the Oystons out '
Not many know this but VB took some persuading to put the CAR in as he was worried what we'd all think if the club got a points deduction and were relegated as a result ( and that was a real concern ). I had to plead with him to do it.
Does that sound like someone who just wanted his money ?
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MODS! Quick, bar this poster he's trying to use facts on AVFTT!!!
 
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