Do you still back Critchley?

Do you still back Critchley?

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Towerpower99 said:
I just like to watch the “ give him x amount of games” Game.
As the games tick by it started off at let’s see where we are after 10 games..
Then I’ve seen let’s see after 15 games..
Now it’s let’s see how we are at Christmas..
Next it will be let’s give him the January transfer window..
Not sure what follows that 🙄
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Last time what followed Christmas was a run to a successful promotion season. 😉
 
Matesrates said:
Warnock resigned from Huddersfield, it would be brilliant if he could be the number two.
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Never going to happen, but if Critchley can only succeed with a Calderwood or a McCall then appoint somebody like that and ditch Critch. But never forget managers have a shelf life, we don't want to get it wrong and appoint another Mccarthy who was obviously at least two years past his best, virtually had green mould growing on him!!
 
fcblackpool said:
It's like telling the truth.

He isn't getting sacked so we adapt.
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As you are probably aware the info was that Mansford was dead set against Critchley ever coming back but Sadler would have him back with open arms, which has happened and Mansford wasn't there to argue the toss. So, you are probably right he isn't going to get sacked, but if he doesn't get an experienced number 2 how long will he give him let loose on his own?
 
td53 said:
It kind of irks me that 'Critchley needs an experienced voice' argument.

When Larry was here, when Appleton was here, no one was saying "oh, let's go and get someone to help them"

They had to live and die by their own work with the team they chose.

If Critchley chose not to appoint an experienced head to his team (which I assume was within his gift to do so) then I don't think we should be forcing one on him as i very much suspect he wants to do it his way, with his people.

Again, who is to say he can't - but I really think we've got to ride this particular wave and see where we land otherwise we'll be retreading the 'is Critch actually any good or not?' argument forever and shitting a brick looking for new assistants every 6 months (i.e. neither McCall nor Calderwood stuck around)
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Yep we can’t be faffing around wet-nursing managers in that way. They’re either up to the job or they aren’t!
 
However we voted, we all want him to succeed. I voted for him to be gone, but that’s on the basis I don’t think he will he change, until it’s too late. I hope he does and that he finds the right formula, for him and the club. If we play to our strengths then we’ll be up there.

On Saturday I expect a different approach, because it has to be at home. I don’t think he’ll risk the wrath of home fans by adopting the same approach. However, even if we win, I can’t be sure that away from home, he won’t then revert to what we’ve seen to date.

I do think he believes the hype, being one of a few coaches on a short-lived course, coming from Liverpool and then being poached by Villa. I’d add that SS blowing smoke hasn’t helped, saying there was really just 1 candidate. That interview with them both was far too pally and I wonder if expectations have been made clear.

His future managerial career may depend on what he does now, so he needs to feel that pressure to change. I don’t think that pressure will come from SS, so there is no point in fans saying nothing. We all want him to succeed and challenge is good.
 
hertfordseasider said:
As you are probably aware the info was that Mansford was dead set against Critchley ever coming back but Sadler would have him back with open arms, which has happened and Mansford wasn't there to argue the toss. So, you are probably right he isn't going to get sacked, but if he doesn't get an experienced number 2 how long will he give him let loose on his own?
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The question ultimately is how long will sadler bury his head in the sand?

critchey isn’t adaptable enough to change . Is ss
 
fcblackpool said:
The question ultimately is how long will sadler bury his head in the sand?

critchey isn’t adaptable enough to change . Is ss
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I’m not sure you could ever accuse Sadler of burying his head in the sand. If anything he probably reacted to this kind of shit and pulled the trigger too early with Appleton.

Best thing he could do imo is make it abundantly clear that Critchley is her until the end of the season regardless….
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I’m not sure you could ever accuse Sadler of burying his head in the sand. If anything he probably reacted to this kind of shit and pulled the trigger too early with Appleton.

Best thing he could do imo is make it abundantly clear that Critchley is her until the end of the season regardless….
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Fair comment.

NCs future will be decided by the crowd at BR. He is I think on a bit of a knifedge and the fans could turn. He needs to be aware of that. Once he has lost the neutrals so to speak then there’s no way back.

I think we all want him to come through.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I’m not sure you could ever accuse Sadler of burying his head in the sand. If anything he probably reacted to this kind of shit and pulled the trigger too early with Appleton.

Best thing he could do imo is make it abundantly clear that Critchley is her until the end of the season regardless….
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Too early ?? The guy was done at the World Cup break.
 
Just read this thread FFS

I really wonder if the “Oyston Mutlti User Shared IP PC” is back in action.

Or is it just “Mushrooms” having an “emotional crisis”??

“Holloway Back” as stated on the “Evening With Holloway” Post🤣

What next “Oyston Back”🙄🙄

Said “half” in Jest

🚌🚢🧡
 
voyeur said:
I'm not convinced Connolly and CJ would create more if they switched flanks. They are the wrong people first and foremost.

I suspect Critch will change formation before the end of October again. I'm not convinced we will kick on this time like we did in 20/21. We seem to collectively lack the confidence and we don't appear to have a Jerry. Unless Rhodes or Joseph answers the call.

And I agree with Mark_GT that ordinary aggressive teams that fight for the ball are finding us a soft touch. Not sure how that changes.
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fcblackpool said:
I agree with that and I think he doesn't have an exp No 2 and is stubborn is down to insecurity.

He's not going anywhere but that is not to say the exp No 2 cannot be thrust upon him.
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i agree with this. At some point sooner, rather than later and more so if results don’t improve, Sadler has to grow a pair and bring an experienced number two in who is not a ‘yes’ man. Maybe try for Calderwood again if he’s available(or not).
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
If you lot were running the Club, we’d be lucky to get a manager willing to come here.
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Appleton was responsible for a complete disaster and it was obvious it wasn’t working and would never work. He was a total square peg in our round hole. Managers are now judged by results and turnover is high in all divisions. And rightly so. It isn’t fans making those decisions. Keeping a shit manager for three years in the hope things will turn eventually is not a recipe for success….it’s just “jam tomorrow” bullshit.
 
foggy said:
I guess the question is how much do we believe in his ability to change. He's done it before. I think it's too early to say he is stubbornly dragging his heels but the problems with the formation seem obvious.
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'... but the problems with the formation seem obvious.'

Just to complete the above sentence: '... seem obvious. To everyone with a hole in their a--e. But just not to Critchley.' Go figure, folks.
 
clappers said:
Appleton was responsible for a complete disaster and it was obvious it wasn’t working and would never work. He was a total square peg in our round hole. Managers are now judged by results and turnover is high in all divisions. And rightly so. It isn’t fans making those decisions. Keeping a shit manager for three years in the hope things will turn eventually is not a recipe for success….it’s just “jam tomorrow” bullshit.
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The problem with hiring Apleton wasn't Appleton, it was the supporters perception of him before he even stepped through the door. Now I think the perception was wrong but it didn't matter and on that basis alone he should never have been considered as he never stood a chance.

He was than not supported with the players he needed for his formation but we did actually play some good football until we caught the lurgy off Coventry and our injury list ran out of space to fit any more names on it.

He was then supplied with the players to do his formation and some players were returning and Sadler then sacked him! That was just baffling and even more baffling was the appointment of McSaurus, he should either of stuck with Appleton (who he should never have employed in the first place) or put Dobbie in charge and I think we would still be in the Championship. We are now where we are and in my opinion Critchley was the wrong appointment and it is certainly looking that way, so as I have said many times before, the common denometer is the owner who just happens to be great at some things but absolutely shite at hiring managers.
 
TangerineMatt said:
43% calling him useless, I guarantee 90% of those people were joining in with the fist pumps the previous game against Wigan. Absolutely fickle.
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Have you ever given thought to the possibility that within the space of just a couple of games, the 'fist pumps' gesture so many fans were engaging in with such enthusiasm, might now have been replaced with the possibly slightly less well-intentioned interpretation of administering a 'good fisting'?
 
Say Critchley had never been offered the QPR job and he was kicking his heels at home McCarthy style post Villa. I reckon if Appleton had been potted before the World Cup (a decisive decision to do that and to re-appoint Critchley) would have given him enough time to turn it round and bring in the players to do better. And everyone would have been behind that. No one would be calling it “madness” at the time or retrospectively …except maybe BFC x 3

Critchleys QPR spell has killed him off…it’s as obvious as McCarthy being past his prime as a manager.
 
Sunpool said:
Unfortunately it's not the way NC coaches, each player has instructions, there not allowed to think, remember Kenny scoring in the playoffs, he wasn't allowed to shoot,.he still did though. It's seems lots of players are not using there football brain, due to not being allowed to only do as NC says.. we all know what happens then.
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'... they're not allowed to think ...' Not: '... there not allowed to think ...'
 
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clappers said:
Say Critchley had never been offered the QPR job and he was kicking his heels at home McCarthy style post Villa. I reckon if Appleton had been potted before the World Cup (a decisive decision to do that and to re-appoint Critchley) would have given him enough time to turn it round and bring in the players to do better. And everyone would have been behind that. No one would be calling it “madness” at the time or retrospectively …except maybe BFC x 3

Critchleys QPR spell has killed him off…it’s as obvious as McCarthy being past his prime as a manager.
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I don't see how a few months at QPR should ruin the guy.

I mean, I get it might make you a bit bitter or annoyed but it's not exactly a secret that football management can be up and down and I don't see how...

"Some overpaid West London knobheads didn't play for me"

... equates to "I must not play wing backs in their actual positions"

We've all had shit jobs at one time or another - it's a bit crap at the time, then you get stuck into the next one.
 
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hertfordseasider said:
As you are probably aware the info was that Mansford was dead set against Critchley ever coming back but Sadler would have him back with open arms, which has happened and Mansford wasn't there to argue the toss. So, you are probably right he isn't going to get sacked, but if he doesn't get an experienced number 2 how long will he give him let loose on his own?
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To judge by actions being played out on the pitch - for however long it takes ...
 
clappers said:
Appleton was responsible for a complete disaster and it was obvious it wasn’t working and would never work. He was a total square peg in our round hole. Managers are now judged by results and turnover is high in all divisions. And rightly so. It isn’t fans making those decisions. Keeping a shit manager for three years in the hope things will turn eventually is not a recipe for success….it’s just “jam tomorrow” bullshit.
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Once you’ve made the decision to appoint Appleton, then you have to stick with him. To have sacked him before the International break would have been a ridiculous and totally unjustifiable decision. The decision to sack him when we did was premature.

Same with Critchley right now…. We’re nowhere near the point where a sacking should even be up for discussion… It’s plain moronic.
 
Wonder if NC or some of his team read this site?
What chance CJ & CC being selected in the wrong wing back positions again next game?
Surely he couldn't be that out of touch ... could he?
 
No I don’t see the need for another debate we all know he’s no up for the job we can all see what’s wrong over to you Sadler
 
I'm not entirely sure what people expect him to do? Sadler gave him a budget of about 18p and a Freddo this summer.

He isn't a miracle worker. He should be getting more out of the squad, but there is still some seriously stinking footballers in the side.

With some of the clubs in this division, I can't see Top 6 being a possibility. More about building for next season.
 
Born tangerine said:
I'm disappointed up to now it's been poor to watch. As Brian Clough once said football is a simple game.
Football manager's and coach's today try to re-invent the wheel instead of keeping it simple and playing to their players strengths.
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Hard to challenge the point argued by Old Big Gob 'imself. Which then rather raises the question: 'Is Critch a simple manager?' (In football terms - I'm certainly not questioning the man's intelligence.)
 
So there’s just under 75% of fans sticking with the Manager right now. 👍

I must admit, I’m very surprised that over a quarter have given up so easily.

It’s clearly not the spine of the team that we should be worried about!!
 
All supporters want him to succeed, however quite a lot are surprised at the lack of intent from the team.
Especially away from home.
Lincoln, Exeter, Wycombe are hardly football giants so to go to these places and not go for it is poor in my opinion.
It’s not like we have 4 Gary Briggs type players at the back who can defend all day so why is he going for 0-0,
Got to be more offensive surely.
Or maybe Critchley believes like last season the players are just not good enough.
 
4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2 with CJ sat on the bench and attacking players like Dale,Kouassi and Dembele starting and we'll see far far far better football. Two outlets of attack. Rather than one, single dimensional one.

An actual left back at left back. An actual right back at right back. And go from there. Back to basics Neil.
 
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