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basilrobbie said:
Darlo this time.

It's not looking likely that these Leagues will go much further. If it ends up being resolved on PPG, I guess Fylde will want it to stop now, especially after tonight's result.

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Similar reasons to Gateshead last week for failing to turn up at Fylde.
Staying with Fylde it will make up for last seasons disappointment if it does happen.
However being just 5 points behind leaders Gloucester with 3 games in hand I’am sure they would want to claim top spot first before any possible suspension of the league, nothing like going up as champions. 👍
 
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That starting 11 Fylde put out tonight would more than hold its own in the National League never mind the North!
 
Fylde are looking very strong now and deserve a quick return to the National League following their unlucky relegation last year. Nick Haughton has signed a new contract and they have just signed Emeka Obi. He's the 6'5" centre half who made his league debut for Bury at the age of 15 and moved to Liverpool for a six figure fee. Then played 9 times for Wigan. Fylde still in with a chance to get into the EFL in 2022.
 
The FSA have been writing to the DCMS (MPs group) about the National League situation but personally I think the issue should lie at the FA and PLs doorstep.

In the profesional game we have players on over £300k per week so clearly there is plenty of money at the top end, and really it shouldnt fall upon tax payers to contribute to a sport that pays out billions.
I'd either put an extra tax on the top clubs or on the TV companies who own the monopoly on football, where at some point the armchair fans might have to stump up that little bit more.

The PFA too seem to be awash with cash given their uplift thats paid directly from the TV deals, and far too seldom come to the aid of the grassroots football. (from which they benefit)
 
Darlo have played 11 games. PPG can't come into it, surely?

I presume in the interests of consistency, Dave will be calling for the League to be declared null and void like last season?
 
The problem with this season was that they should never have started any league until they had a resolution planned if it couldn’t be finished.
 
Spare a thought for our friends at Eastbourne. In the Play Off positions and on a great run and a very strong chance that the NL South season will be called off. Several clubs have furloughed their playing staff and some refusing to travel due to costs.
 
Wizaard said:
Darlo have played 11 games. PPG can't come into it, surely?

I presume in the interests of consistency, Dave will be calling for the League to be declared null and void like last season?
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That's the last thing he wants. Null and void means the season is scrapped and you start again. That's not what happened last year. What DH wants is to play on as long as possible so Fylde can win the league and get back in the National League.
 
tommytwojags said:
That's the last thing he wants. Null and void means the season is scrapped and you start again. That's not what happened last year. What DH wants is to play on as long as possible so Fylde can win the league and get back in the National League.
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DH was pushing for the season to be declared null and void to avoid relegation. Funny how he's had a 180 degree turn around.
 
That whole league is in a mess and unfortunately there is no easy answer to solve the problems. The longer it goes on there has to be a lot of doubt over the season finishing and what happens then.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
And the answer is?
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The difference for me between this season and last is that the cessation came after 35 games, so the PPG sort of reflected the season. 11 games in for some just doesnt do that so the season should be abandoned if it's not to be completed on time.
 
Wizaard said:
The difference for me between this season and last is that the cessation came after 35 games, so the PPG sort of reflected the season. 11 games in for some just doesnt do that so the season should be abandoned if it's not to be completed on time.
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Last chance Wiz.

So the answer is?
 
It's quite a mess. The following is from the Maidstone Forum

"The closer you look at this situation, the worse it gets. Clubs are effectively hemmed in by competing rules whichever way they go.

Furlough and play the U23s (or whoever) and you could be breaking furlough/tax laws.

Play a volunteer team and you could be breaking Covid rules.

Borrow money and you could be breaking NL rules.

Carry on playing when insolvent and you are breaking NL rules.

Don't play and you could be fined, relegated, or thrown out of the league.

And all this time, the NL does sweet FA..."
 
Plumbs said:
The FSA have been writing to the DCMS (MPs group) about the National League situation but personally I think the issue should lie at the FA and PLs doorstep.

In the profesional game we have players on over £300k per week so clearly there is plenty of money at the top end, and really it shouldnt fall upon tax payers to contribute to a sport that pays out billions.
I'd either put an extra tax on the top clubs or on the TV companies who own the monopoly on football, where at some point the armchair fans might have to stump up that little bit more.

The PFA too seem to be awash with cash given their uplift thats paid directly from the TV deals, and far too seldom come to the aid of the grassroots football. (from which they benefit)
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Absolutely. I cringed when I saw articles where football was begging for help from the government. The government hasn't helped get rid of food banks yet. Help starving families first, not an industry that pukes hundreds of thousands of pounds a week at individuals.
 
That’s not the answer though is it?

The answer is being as you’re too proud to say it because it’s a club on the Fylde coast is had you been in D H shoes you would have done/said exactly the same as he has done both last season and again this season.

Yet you and others slag him off for doing exactly what everyone else would have done hilarious I’d say.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
That’s not the answer though is it?

The answer is being as you’re too proud to say it because it’s a club on the Fylde coast is had you been in D H shoes you would have done/said exactly the same as he has done both last season and again this season.

Yet you and others slag him off for it hilarious.
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And as I said, I've not tried to play the part of a crusader for football in the wider sense. He's part of the problem, not the solution.

As such he deserves to be called out on it.
 
Wizaard said:
DH was pushing for the season to be declared null and void to avoid relegation. Funny how he's had a 180 degree turn around.
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What bizarre crusade are you pursuing? Fylde want to play and complete the season so they can win the league and get back where they should be. What part of that is a problem for you?

And don't say that last season he wanted something else because you would be wrong. What he wanted was for Fylde to play their games in hand and get above Ebbsfleet. It was all there in his series of videos. Failing that, he wanted the season to be nulled and voided as anyone would in their position.

Your argument doesn't hold water.
 
Plumbs said:
In the profesional game we have players on over £300k per week so clearly there is plenty of money at the top end, and really it shouldnt fall upon tax payers to contribute to a sport that pays out billions.
I'd either put an extra tax on the top clubs or on the TV companies who own the monopoly on football, where at some point the armchair fans might have to stump up that little bit more.
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BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Absolutely. I cringed when I saw articles where football was begging for help from the government. The government hasn't helped get rid of food banks yet. Help starving families first, not an industry that pukes hundreds of thousands of pounds a week at individuals.
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Don't get grass roots clubs mixed up with the EPL. Nobody thinks they should get financial help, but small clubs are like any other struggling business in the entertainment and sports sector.
 
Hertsseasider said:
It's quite a mess. The following is from the Maidstone Forum

"The closer you look at this situation, the worse it gets. Clubs are effectively hemmed in by competing rules whichever way they go.

Furlough and play the U23s (or whoever) and you could be breaking furlough/tax laws.

Play a volunteer team and you could be breaking Covid rules.

Borrow money and you could be breaking NL rules.

Carry on playing when insolvent and you are breaking NL rules.

Don't play and you could be fined, relegated, or thrown out of the league.

And all this time, the NL does sweet FA..."
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But what can they do? What do yo
Tangojoe said:
What bizarre crusade are you pursuing? Fylde want to play and complete the season so they can win the league and get back where they should be. What part of that is a problem for you?

And don't say that last season he wanted something else because you would be wrong. What he wanted was for Fylde to play their games in hand and get above Ebbsfleet. It was all there in his series of videos. Failing that, he wanted the season to be nulled and voided as anyone would in their position.

Your argument doesn't hold water.
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not with you on this. He wanted last season nulled and void so they wouldn't be relegated. He wanted anything which meant that they weren't relegated.
 
20togo said:
not with you on this. He wanted last season nulled and void so they wouldn't be relegated. He wanted anything which meant that they weren't relegated.
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To be fair to Fylde they were dumped on last season. In the middle of an unbeaten run with a couple of games in hand and DH wanted the chance to play those games, even one of them. I mean if you're going to relegate a club, at least have them play the same number of games to make it even. His second choice was to null and void the season. Both options would be fair and reasonable to any right minded person. Instead they were relegated having 2 points less than Maidenhead with a game in hand.
 
Tangojoe said:
I mean if you're going to relegate a club, at least have them play the same number of games to make it even. His second choice was to null and void the season. Both options would be fair and reasonable to any right minded person.
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That wasn't possible Joe. We went into lockdown, and the table was stuck as it was.
 
Tangojoe said:
To be fair to Fylde they were dumped on last season. In the middle of an unbeaten run with a couple of games in hand and DH wanted the chance to play those games, even one of them. I mean if you're going to relegate a club, at least have them play the same number of games to make it even. His second choice was to null and void the season. Both options would be fair and reasonable to any right minded person. Instead they were relegated having 2 points less than Maidenhead with a game in hand.
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But the point is that not every game in hand means you win it. For every team that wins a game in hand a team has to lose it. So AFCF could just as easily lost their game in hand or even drawn it which by your statement wouldn't have been enough. Of course it all seems unfair and to a point it was. There were teams who benefitted and teams who lost out. Tranmere for one lost out, and Wycombe for another benefitted.,
 
A good few sour faced so and so’s on here talking out of their rear ends as per usual.
Same people whe talk about Fleetwood and Fylde more than they do about their own (so called) club.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
A good few sour so and so’s on here talking out of their rear ends as per usual.
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I don't think so. If I were in DH's position I'd be doing exactly the same because it's simply about doing the best, or getting the best outcome for your team whatever the circumstances are at the time. But of course, that brings into play the fact that in the two different circumstances he wanted toally opposite things to apply. And like it or not, that is double standards.
 
20togo said:
I don't think so. If I were in DH's position I'd be doing exactly the same because it's simply about doing the best, or getting the best outcome for your team whatever the circumstances are at the time. But of course, that brings into play the fact that in the two different circumstances he wanted toally opposite things to apply. And like it or not, that is double standards.
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Few know (you obviously do because you’ve already mentioned it) Fylde actually wanted to continue with last season (until the league got suspended) they had games it hand and were on a decent run of results, we’ll never know for sure but they could well have survived the drop last season had they played out their remaining games.

Roll on to this season there is absolutely nothing wrong in Fylde wanting to finish the season I’am sure the likes of Gloucester, Chester, Kidderminster etc all wish to do the same the teams against it are those down the bottom coincidence?
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Few know (you obviously do because you’ve already mentioned it) Fylde actually wanted to continue with last season (until the league got suspended) they had games it hand and were on a decent run of results, we’ll never know for sure but they could well have survived the drop last season had they played out their remaining games.

Roll on to this season there is absolutely nothing wrong in Fylde wanting to finish the season I’am sure the likes of Gloucester, Chester, Kidderminster etc all wish to do the same the teams against it are those down the bottom coincidence?
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Im sorry, but I think that is nonsense. He's completely unprincipled, and 20s nailed this one.
 
basilrobbie said:
Im sorry, but I think that is nonsense. He's completely unprincipled, and 20s nailed this one.
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Nonsense how do you work that out being fact? I thought you were supposed to be an educated person?
Like I said bottoms and mouths serve the same purpose on this thread.
 
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Tangojoe said:
Say it lots of times and it might come true. 😆
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The National League North is way behind where we are. Games played ranges between 11 and 18. We're worried about too many games and we've played 25, while many have played 28. World of difference between the two leagues in many ways, but I can't see how they can get the games in between now and mid May.
 
Wizaard said:
The National League North is way behind where we are. Games played ranges between 11 and 18. We're worried about too many games and we've played 25, while many have played 28. World of difference between the two leagues in many ways, but I can't see how they can get the games in between now and mid May.
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I agree.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Nonsense how do you work that out being fact? I thought you were supposed to be an educated person?
Like I said bottoms and mouths serve the same purpose on this thread.
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Last year PPG worked against him and he argued that the season should continue. This year his circumstances are the opposite and guess what? He's changed his mind.
 
basilrobbie said:
Last year PPG worked against him and he argued that the season should continue. This year his circumstances are the opposite and guess what? He's changed his mind.
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I asked a question to Wiz 3 times this afternoon and 3 times he failed to answer it so i’ll put it to you If you were Haythornthwaite what would you have canvassed for both last season and this season?
 
basilrobbie said:
Last year PPG worked against him and he argued that the season should continue. This year his circumstances are the opposite and guess what? He's changed his mind.
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Last year he argued that the season should continue. This year he's arguing for the season to continue
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
I asked a question to Wiz 3 times this afternoon and 3 times he failed to answer it so i’ll put it to you If you were Haythornthwaite what would you have canvassed for both last season and this season?
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I answered it 3 times. Haythornthwaite tried to claim some moral high ground yet in fact is a self centred egomaniac who does what is best for Haythornthwaite. If he was true to his word he would be calling for the season to be called off. Hypocrite.

It really doesnt matter what I would do, but just for clarity, as a national crisis struck, I would have wanted to call off the season last year, and in the interests of consistency I'd be saying the same again.
 
Just had a look through Darlo's squad they have 3 players with Blackpool connections Myles Boney, Tony McMahon and Jarrett Rivers. Rivers apparently played 10 games for us in 2015.
 
Wizaard said:
I answered it 3 times. Haythornthwaite tried to claim some moral high ground yet in fact is a self centred egomaniac who does what is best for Haythornthwaite. If he was true to his word he would be calling for the season to be called off. Hypocrite.

It really doesnt matter what I would do, but just for clarity, as a national crisis struck, I would have wanted to call off the season last year, and in the interests of consistency I'd be saying the same again.
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Apologies I must have missed those answers. 🙄
 
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