Haz and Megs’ problem goes nuclear.

What I don’t understand is if they wanted out and moved to Canada or wherever it was for peace and quiet away from prying eyes, why does she feel the need to do an interview with Oprah ? Just move on with your lives, you have told us your out, sober out and move on ffs, it’s an utter charade.
Because she thought she could change the monarchy to suit her agenda. It’s called the firm because that’s exactly what it is. You go into work and get on with the job you are given then you go home. The courtiers are there to make sure everything is running smoothly so the royal family know where they should be for the year. It’s a regime that’s been around for centuries. No big drama.
 
Because she thought she could change the monarchy to suit her agenda. It’s called the firm because that’s exactly what it is. You go into work and get on with the job you are given then you go home. The courtiers are there to make sure everything is running smoothly so the royal family know where they should be for the year. It’s a regime that’s been around for centuries. No big drama.
If it’s no big drama why do Oprah ?
 
I think you may miss the point. HMQ, the RF and the courtiers all want things to run smoothly with no surprises or drama. But Megs, by career definition, is a drama queen.
 
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I think you may miss the point. HMQ, the RF and the courtiers all want things to run smoothly with no surprises or drama. But Megs, by definition, is a drama queen.
More like an anarchist then, you will be in favour no doubt.
 
I have not indicated whether I am a supporter of either side. In fact, a plague on both their houses. But nothing she has done appears to be as wicked as the allegations against Randy Andy.
 
I don’t recall having said anything nasty against this lass, any reason why your getting all defensive ?
 
What I don’t understand is if they wanted out and moved to Canada or wherever it was for peace and quiet away from prying eyes, why does she feel the need to do an interview with Oprah ? Just move on with your lives, you have told us your out, sober out and move on ffs, it’s an utter charade.
Its the money Scara, its the money!
 
I don’t recall having said anything nasty against this lass, any reason why your getting all defensive ?
Me being defensive? I have just called her a “drama queen”...
As several have already indicated, her treatment by the tabloids and RW seems somewhat excessive for what she has done, in comparison with the allegations against her purported uncle-in-law.
 
No sympathy for the Sussexes but also none for most of the Royal Family either and Palace mafia that often brief both the media and 'friends of' against those that don't fit in with them. People like Andrew, Charles and Philip have hardly shown themselves to be decent leaders or humans who know how to behave themselves.
And the Mail is having a pop because its Sunday sister paper has been ordered by a judge to print prominent page one and page three coverage of Meghan's recent win in the court case against them
 
“Andrew is a ** who needs to be kicked out and stripped of his free living.”

Kicked out of what? The Royal Family or the entire country? I would favour the latter, followed by an extended stay with his mate Ghislaine in the Metropolitan Correctional Centre in New York, while awaiting his court case. But the establishment will never let that happen.

He’s a very arrogant and entitled thicko, so this internal banishment and being airbrushed out of the RF’s recent history must be extremely galling. He may be his Mum’s favourite but when she passes, I expect his RF income to be severely curtailed. Apparently, Charles has never much liked him and now Wills feels able to treat him like schieße also.
 
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Oprah asked if she felt suicidal, and she said, yes this was very clear, very scary, I didn’t know who to turn to in that.

Where was your very supportive husband?
 
They’ve not held back have they !

The snippets gave an idea of what was to come but not the extent

Racism, mental illness, suicidal thoughts, rifts between Harry and both his father and brother ...
 
Truth matters alright. After the recent “bullying” smears from the Palace machine, if they say nothing now in response then many will assume the worst. The Palace has been making mistakes, they usually “never complain and never explain”.
 
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“This is just a profile raising, money making exercise.”

It may well also be, but it’s an extremely risky way to do it. Haz and Megs really seem to want to get stuff out in the open. They are fighting ice with fire.

It’s almost as if Harry is now consciously carrying his mother’s standard in a continuation of the “Diana Wars”. It’s not all solely down to Meghan, that is for sure, despite the tabloids and royalists wanting to blame her entirely.
 
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The RF is on the cusp of a great change with HMQ approaching 95. Charles does not have anywhere near the same popularity, not even with the older generations. This could damage him further just at the moment he least needs it. The RF better hope Her Maj soldiers on for a few more years yet.
 
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The inference seems to be that it was him or William who had the ‘ concerned about the colour of your babies skin ‘ conversation

According to the Royal Correspondent on ITV he’s been told it wasn’t the Queen or Prince Philip which suggests it happened
 
The skin colour comment is just sensationalism to justify the interview. I have two nephews with a white father and black mother and three half Arab grandchildren. Of course I was interested what skin colour they would be, as were their parents. I’m pretty sure both Harry and Meghan would have speculated.

Imo, nothing to see here except a woman who sees a money making opportunity. Let’s not forget, she’s hardly popular with her own family because of her actions.
 
Neither side deserves defending especially. It’s the fallout that affects the relationship between the people and the establishment that matters. It was the same in 1997. Tony Blair and Alistair Campbell did Her Maj huge favours with their advice in the immediate aftermath of Diana’s death, when the RF response was seen as brutal, cold and uncaring by many.

Fortunately, nobody has died this time so it should be manageable, with a little skill. Unfortunately, Her Maj only has Bozo to turn to for advice now. Not exactly Merlin the Magician in terms of family harmony. 😂
 
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The skin colour comment is just sensationalism to justify the interview. I have two nephews with a white father and black mother and three half Arab grandchildren. Of course I was interested what skin colour they would be, as were their parents. I’m pretty sure both Harry and Meghan would have speculated.

Imo, nothing to see here except a woman who sees a money making opportunity. Let’s not forget, she’s hardly popular with her own family because of her actions.
If easy money was her aim why walk away from the gravy train. Harry isn't a daft bloke, why do most assume she is pulling the strings?
 
Neither side deserves defending especially. It’s the fallout that affects the relationship between the people and the establishment that matters. It was the same in 1997. Tony Blair and Alistair Campbell did Her Maj huge favours with their advice in the immediate aftermath of Diana’s death, when the RF response was seen as brutal, cold and uncaring by many.

Fortunately, nobody has died this time so it should be manageable, with a little skill. Unfortunately Her Maj only has Bozo to turn to for advice now. Not exactly Merlin the Magician in terms of family matters. 😂
The Queen still hates Tony Blair for the advice they received and how he behaved.
 
If easy money was her aim why walk away from the gravy train. Harry isn't a daft bloke, why do most assume she is pulling the strings?
I think the multi million dollar deals they’ve done since they decided to have a “quiet life” speaks volumes. The gravy train was water by comparison.
 
The Queen still hates Tony Blair for the advice they received and how he behaved.
She thought him presumptuous in being concerned about her showing her feelings. That was alien to her upbringing. She had taken Diana as an enemy so was cold to her death. But Blair was absolutely right, imho, and it defused much anger. HMQ really did not “get it” then, and being 24 years older now may understand even less. Certainly she has not stopped the Palace apparatchiks recently spreading bile about members of her family. She did in 1997.
 
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She thought him presumptuous in being concerned about her showing her feelings. She had taken Diana as an enemy so was cold to the event. But Blair was right, imho, and it defused much anger. HMQ really did not “get it” then, and being 24 years older now may understand even less. Certainly she has not stopped the Palace apparatchiks spreading bile. She did in 1997.
I know the story mate....I wonder if TB will ever get his knighthood?
 
It’s not just any old K that is significant. It’s whether Blair is ever appointed as a K in the Order of the Garter which is in the personal gift of the sovereign and limited to 24 plus extra Royals. That is something all ex-PMs expect to get eventually. The last recipient was Major, but convention means that PMs have to be appointed in chronological order. So if Blair is not given it, then Brown, Cameron, May etc will all have to go whistle.
 
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It’s not just the K that is significant. It’s whether Blair is ever appointed as a K in the Order of the Garter which is in the personal gift of the sovereign and limited to 24 plus extra Royals. That is something all ex-PMs expect to get eventually. The last recipient was Major, but convention means that PMs have to be appointed in chronological order. So if Blair is not given it, then Brown, Cameron, May etc will all have to go whistle.
Exactly - he is blocking the road so to speak 👍
 
Having seen a bit of the coverage on GMB this morning it sounds that the interview was even more explosive than expected, with Harry inferring that a member of Royal family was racist, when they asked what colour the baby was likely to be. I might just watch the interview now.
I also enjoyed Piers Morgan getting a taste of his own medicine when the black activist shouted him down, told him to shut up and when he could speak.
 
Twats the both of them they must now be ousted once and for all.
Haz and Megs, I presume? Ousted from what, exactly? They’ve long gone. Fired their last broadside and sailed over the horizon, flicking the V’s as they go.

They have already agreed not to use the HRH style. I suppose HMQ could strip them of that and their Sussex titles. But would it make any difference other than to render HMQ as mean and spiteful in public opinion?

As Harry has said, his own father has already cut him off from any and all future financial support and for the past year has refused to speak to him, so I don’t think there is much left to be ousted from.

I’m just waiting now for Harry to publicly acknowledge the cad Hewitt as his biological father. 😂.
After all, he’d have little further to lose by that. St. Diana was still his Mum. That would be a very big stick to hold over the RF as a threat, if true. But it’s probably not.
 
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All very sad and unremarkable by the sounds of it, though no doubt it will be lapped up by the culture of celebrity fan club.

I’m no fan of the Royal Family, but there’s something pretty crass and dishonourable about getting paid to wash your dirty laundry in public and the ‘only’ reason this utter shyte is getting any air time is because of who’s laundry is being aired.

And “setting the record straight” by confirming it was her who made me cry and not the other way round.... Jeez!! Do people really care about that shit??

Hopefully now they’ve done the whole upper class ‘Jeremy Kyle’ routine, we will be spared any more of this bullshit.👍
 
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There’s no question they’ve burnt their bridges.
Yep. That is indisputable. And probably what they intended. Though Harry sounded a little plaintive over his father’s reaction. I find it all a very strange mixture of sad, amusing, deplorable and silly at the same time. Just typical family feud stuff, but with added fame.
But Bozo has gone and hidden in his fridge again! 🤣
 
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