Hope Keogh/Husband isn't the plan?

Husband has played well when asked as a CB but Keogh not for me. Yes he’s got bags of experience to pass on and is good in the air but turns like a bus and lacks pace as seen on Saturday. Oli Casey has been brought in and should be given a chance to start alongside Marv until the Viking gets back.
 
I'd go with back 3 of...

Husband - Marvin - Connelly

but to do that, we need a rwb to play outside them. Fine on the other side where Garbutt or James can play.

Marv doesn't look in great form but I think he's a player who has to play himself into form and ultimately, an in form Marvin is a much better asset than Keogh, both in the immediate and in the future.
 
td53 said:
I'd go with back 3 of...

Husband - Marvin - Connelly

but to do that, we need a rwb to play outside them. Fine on the other side where Garbutt or James can play.

Marv doesn't look in great form but I think he's a player who has to play himself into form and ultimately, an in form Marvin is a much better asset than Keogh, both in the immediate and in the future.
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Connolly can play all across the back 4 according to Wikipedia. He might have to play right back and right central defence on Saturday.

Ultimately I'd prefer a back 4 with 4 good defenders. Garbutt creates as many problems as he solves, in my world view. Get Husband there, and Gretarsson left centre.

It would be grand if we could also opt for a back 3 with flying full backs but you can't really have cover for two types of full back. What sort of full back do we want? And when do we want them? 🤠
 
td53 said:
I'd go with back 3 of...

Husband - Marvin - Connelly

but to do that, we need a rwb to play outside them. Fine on the other side where Garbutt or James can play.

Marv doesn't look in great form but I think he's a player who has to play himself into form and ultimately, an in form Marvin is a much better asset than Keogh, both in the immediate and in the future.
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I agree about Marv he looked a bit shaky on Saturday which reminded me of his earlier form last season but he soon settled and was sorely missed when he got injured.
 
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voyeur said:
Connolly can play all across the back 4 according to Wikipedia. He might have to play right back and right central defence on Saturday.

Ultimately I'd prefer a back 4 with 4 good defenders. Garbutt creates as many problems as he solves, in my world view. Get Husband there, and Gretarsson left centre.

It would be grand if we could also opt for a back 3 with flying full backs but you can't really have cover for two types of full back. What sort of full back do we want? And when do we want them? 🤠
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He can, but I'm really not taken with him there. His whole body language and vibe screams centre half to me. I think he'd be really good bringing the ball out in the middle, the way he steps out is cautious, measured. It just doesn't seem what you'd want from the first choice RB.

I imagine we want someone like Gabriel and one other, possibly more of RB. I think I'd be happier with Connelly as RB in a 4 than a 5 because if you are playing 5 you really do need both full backs to go forward from time to time.

As much as Turts was characterized as 'the steady one' he was capable of getting down the flanks. I don't think Connelly looks as natural at that as even Turton does.
 
I reckon it will be Keogh and Husband on Saturday more out of necessity - might be being harsh but I wasn’t convinced with Casey at the weekend, looked a little lightweight, maybe a half season loan to league 1/2 and a gym program the best plan for him?
 
td53 said:
He can, but I'm really not taken with him there. His whole body language and vibe screams centre half to me. I think he'd be really good bringing the ball out in the middle, the way he steps out is cautious, measured. It just doesn't seem what you'd want from the first choice RB.

I imagine we want someone like Gabriel and one other, possibly more of RB. I think I'd be happier with Connelly as RB in a 4 than a 5 because if you are playing 5 you really do need both full backs to go forward from time to time.

As much as Turts was characterized as 'the steady one' he was capable of getting down the flanks. I don't think Connelly looks as natural at that as even Turton does.
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Yes Connolly screams centre half. I agree. Centre halves at full back always stand out. He can provide cover at right back in a 4 if required. He's not a flying wing back, like Turton, who was more Alexander Arnold than we realised til he'd fled to the land of dietary wisdom. Yorkshire!
 
voyeur said:
Yes Connolly screams centre half. I agree. Centre halves at full back always stand out. He can provide cover at right back in a 4 if required. He's not a flying wing back, like Turton, who was more Alexander Arnold than we realised til he'd fled to the land of dietary wisdom. Yorkshire!
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It's the way he looks hesitant when he goes on the flank. That's ideal in a centre half. Step out with the ball only when the odds are stacked in your favour. A full back needs to burst forward more instinctively.
 
td53 said:
It's the way he looks hesitant when he goes on the flank. That's ideal in a centre half. Step out with the ball only when the odds are stacked in your favour. A full back needs to burst forward more instinctively.
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They need to be able to run. There was no change of pace from Connolly. He looks really steady though, and dependable. Old school.
 
Garbutt is a midfield player, not a FB, and Turton is a “ Flying Wing Back” now that he’s gone ??’
 
I think Keogh has played well in the couple of games ive seen there a lack of pace all across the back four both Connolly and Garbutt are not very quick Marvin has pace but looks like Bambi on ice sometimes.
 
Middxile said:
Garbutt is a midfield player, not a FB, and Turton is a “ Flying Wing Back” now that he’s gone ??’
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No, but he looked more natural as fullback than Connelly does, albeit on the basis of a few friendlies.

For me, Jimmy is a miles better fullback than Garbs but I don't think that's the general view.
 
Poolfan2 said:
Clearly Ekpiteta and Viking is the best option we have at the back but both seem to be injury prone and got to be honest a Keogh/Husband partnership would have concerned me greatly in League One, let alone the Championship!
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We look a bit disjointed all over but especially at the back. Keogh was a strange signing, experienced but age has slowed him down.
 
td53 said:
I'd go with back 3 of...

Husband - Marvin - Connelly

but to do that, we need a rwb to play outside them. Fine on the other side where Garbutt or James can play.

Marv doesn't look in great form but I think he's a player who has to play himself into form and ultimately, an in form Marvin is a much better asset than Keogh, both in the immediate and in the future.
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Agree re Marvin having to play himself back in. Also agree that 3 centre-backs needs 2 wing-backs. Also agree that, in the absence of our first choice centre-back pairing, three centre-backs is the best option.
So....how do we untie this Gordian knot?
 
If we play 3 at the back we lose out further up the pitch as we might struggle to find a place for Mitchell and Hamilton.
Definitely wouldn't want those two operating as wing backs so means we go with a back four.
I'd make that as solid as possible until we get everyone available.
Maybe go with Husband Keogh Ekpiteta and Connolly.
I don't really like it but that's where we are, haven't seen Casey so don't know how good an option he is.
Put Ward and James as the holding two.
Play Garbutt Anderson and Mitchell higher up with Yates up top.
Leave a bit of firepower on the bench, hopefully Bristol have tired a bit and we can throw the likes of Hamilton, John-Jules and Lavery at them ideally with us still in the game.
 
I'm staggered at the amount of people who leave Stewart out of the team. He will be absolutely key this season alongside Dougall, we can then play Ward or Carey in front of them, or a new creative midfielder.

We really do need a right back though, Connolly is a square peg for me and should be playing centre half alongside Husband, although Expetita was number one on the team sheet before he was injured so he will be unlucky not to play.

Garbutt isn't a natural left bag but he did well last season, he would certainly fit as a wing back though.
 
hertfordseasider said:
I'm staggered at the amount of people who leave Stewart out of the team. He will be absolutely key this season alongside Dougall, we can then play Ward or Carey in front of them, or a new creative midfielder.

We really do need a right back though, Connolly is a square peg for me and should be playing centre half alongside Husband, although Expetita was number one on the team sheet before he was injured so he will be unlucky not to play.

Garbutt isn't a natural left bag but he did well last season, he would certainly fit as a wing back though.
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EKpiteta. 😉

Are you calling Garbutt a bit of a scrote?
 
I can understand why people want a 3 at the back with the lack of a consistent and obvious RB, coupled with a 2 CB choice not clear either in terms of personnel.

However, I don't think we have the players further up to hold the ball and being one short (potentially) in midfield I can see us just inviting wave after wave until we concede.

We really should have the players for a 4 with the flexibility to make that 5 as the game(s) dictates.
 
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