Tell the truth..who wanted Critch out at one time

Yes but at least the Welshman will admit he was mistaken…..he won’t come on my thread making out he always had the greatest faith in Critch and never doubted him like all the others have……even though many many doubted Critch…..ish I hadn’t nitgered posting it now

Taff, apologies mate, you’re drawing stick here
 
BFC87 said:
It just proves the fickleness of us football fans. Apparently we all know more than one of the worlds highest qualified coaches. In his early forties I’d give him a 55 year contract.lol.
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That's easy to say after the fact he's done well. When we were languishing at the foot of league 1 with a different side and formation early last season nobody was saying anything about new contracts.

It wasn't fickle. People were posting on what they saw in front of them. I'm sure NC would admit to have gotten things badly wrong last season.

I hate smug posts like that. What if he'd have been sacked? You'd have been saying "well he wasn't the man for the job, these qualifications mean nothing in League 1".
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
It's hard to believe now but we lost 2-1 at Bristol Rovers at the beginning of January THIS year. The match day thread here had plenty of people calling for Critch's head!

Just look at where they are now compared to us. Just shows how having a plan and sticking to it pays dividends.
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Thanks for the honesty mate…but only Phil getting outed…..it’s out of order
 
Macseasider said:
That's easy to say after the fact he's done well. When we were languishing at the foot of league 1 with a different side and formation early last season nobody was saying anything about new contracts.

It wasn't fickle. People were posting on what they saw in front of them. I'm sure NC would admit to have gotten things badly wrong last season.

I hate smug posts like that. What if he'd have been sacked? You'd have been saying "well he wasn't the man for the job, these qualifications mean nothing in League 1".
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But asking for him to get sacked was just stupid knee jerk bollocks, it was a project, still is, some people need to see the bigger picture.
 
Football fans can be fickle to say the least but i definitely never wanted him out, in fact the complete opposite...he is a breath of fresh air in the way he has taken on the challenge and says what he sees rather than that prat at Preston in his post match interview.
The players certainly seem to want to play for him.
 
Macseasider said:
That's easy to say after the fact he's done well. When we were languishing at the foot of league 1 with a different side and formation early last season nobody was saying anything about new contracts.

It wasn't fickle. People were posting on what they saw in front of them. I'm sure NC would admit to have gotten things badly wrong last season.

I hate smug posts like that. What if he'd have been sacked? You'd have been saying "well he wasn't the man for the job, these qualifications mean nothing in League 1".
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Global not parochial.
 
I expressed my concern amongst friends, never on here, that employing a manager with no experience was a big gamble but I thought it was a gamble worth taking, we couldn't do much worse than Grayson! I never joined the Critchley out idiots because, as with every manager, I give them enough time to show what they can do!
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
That's how you designed this run chase wasn't it?
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Nope…..but as I thought EVERYONE bar me and Phil and maybe one other honest poster saw that it would all work out, promoted patience etc……it’s a George Orwell rewriting of the actual truth

Im only happy that the Club’s decision makers are a lot cleverer than me …….and may many others who are denying “their truth“
 
Bloodtangerine said:
Nope…..but as I thought EVERYONE bar me and Phil and maybe one other honest poster saw that it would all work out, promoted patience etc……it’s a George Orwell rewriting of the actual truth

Im only happy that the Club’s decision makers are a lot cleverer than me …….and may many others who are denying “their truth“
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Nobody claims to see it would all work out , but neither did the majority want him out.

Well done you for ‘owning it’ but the rest of us don’t have to own what we didn’t own.

Phil was the most prolific ‘ Critchley out’ poster, so you paved the way for this ridicule of him and as good as put him in the stocks yourself.

Now admitting that would be refreshing maybe 🤔 instead of trying to pull some kind of warped superiority act on the rest of us.
I thank you 😔
 
Lala said:
Nobody claims to see it would all work out , but neither did the majority want him out.

Well done you for ‘owning it’ but the rest of us don’t have to own what we didn’t own.

Phil was the most prolific ‘ Critchley out’ poster, so you paved the way for this ridicule of him and as good as put him in the stocks yourself.

Now admitting that would be refreshing maybe 🤔 instead of trying to pull some kind of warped superiority act on the rest of us.
I thank you 😔
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Absolute bollocks Lala. Many many posters wanted Critch out and please don’t use woke phrases like “owning it” with me…..I’m not “modern” and don’t care about “lived experiences” or “my truth” etc….I’m a campaign for plain English type!

I also never used that word “Majority” which YOU have just introduced incorrectly to the debate plus I don’t see you as a spokeswomen for “the rest of us” and just see that as a pompous comment tbh*


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Bloodtangerine said:
Absolute bollocks Lala. Many many posters wanted Critch out and please don’t use woke phrases like “owning it” with me…..I’m not “modern” and don’t care about “lived experiences” or “my truth” etc….I’m a campaign for plain English type!

I also never used that word “Majority” which YOU have just introduced incorrectly to the debate plus I don’t see you as a spokeswomen for “the rest of us” and just see that as a pompous comment tbh*


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There we go again, telling me what phrases and words I can or cannot use 🤣🤣

If I can’t use my own vocabulary in a debate then it isn’t even a debate 🤔 just a monologue from the OP that we all have to stick to.

You asked for honesty and you got it.

Maybe you didn’t actually want that at all 🧐
 
Nope didn't want him out, there were times of doubt of course when things went badly at first but there were signs of hope and you had to give him time and now we see why.

Legend.
 
Bloodtangerine said:
I thought he had to go at one stage last season …..what a tit I am

The bloke is Solid 👍

Sorry Critch, I owe you a cold few Britneys

Anyone else prepared to be straight? ……like a Pear Cider that’s made from 100% Pears
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I had my doubts. I think I probably agreed with 'we're stuck with him'
 
This reminds me of Man Ure fans talking about Ferguson before that Mark Robins winner against Forest that saved his job. Thank God we were stuck with Critchley
 
Lala said:
There we go again, telling me what phrases and words I can or cannot use 🤣🤣

If I can’t use my own vocabulary in a debate then it isn’t even a debate 🤔 just a monologue from the OP that we all have to stick to.

You asked for honesty and you got it.

Maybe you didn’t actually want that at all 🧐
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You can’t use majority when it isn’t what I said Lala……is that fair enough?……or am I mistaken in that?
 
After the dismissal of Larry, like every fan I wondered who the next manager would be. So on the appointment of NC i liked the idea of giving the job to a young untried guy who had made his mark as Liverpool’s under 23’s manager.
So personally I never wanted him out even when things went a bit Uppsy early on, as you could see how he wanted to set his teams up to play, possession, flair, attacking football, yes frustrating at times when the passing around at the back gets a little pissy, but it’s now coming into fruition. After watching’Quest’ tonight it made me thank the Lord we didn’t settle for, Warnock, McCarthy, Mowbray, ** Pearson! and any of the other Jurassic Managerial Merry go round has beens! In fact if my memory serves me right, one controversial poster even mentioned the appointment of Sam ‘Plateosaurous’Allardyce as the next Manager after Larry got potted. The future is imminent! ⚽️
 
Critch was an inspired appointment by the board .

Appointing a manager is the most important decision a football club can make

Sheer bravery on the part of the owner to appoint someone with no track record

Never once thought he should go. He needed time and a bit of help which he was given

He’s a very sound guy I hope he is with us for a very long time
 
BFC87 said:
Global not parochial.
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Rubbish. Apparently he's one of only 3 in the world with this UEFA level (as they no longer do it). By your logic he should be managing one of the 3 best teams in the world. He isn't.

In fact you could say he has a global qualification and is managing a parochial team.
 
Bloodtangerine said:
So there was only me in the World who doubted Critch?……absolute tripe…..Welsh Phil wanted him out for starters!
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There were a couple of polls run last season. It’s not hard to find those who wanted him out as the history search shows who they were and those of us TTS types who were pleading for patience.

Then we had the Calderwood myth….

It’s all good now. There’s surely no one doubting him? It does show that we should be more patient with young players and managers.
 
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I never doubted him, not once. What I do hope is that when (and yes we will) have a dodgy spell is that the supporters don’t cave in and start calling for his head. We’re very lucky to have this guy and I can’t think of too many other managers out there I would want instead of NC.
 
Never thought he should be despatched, but I wanted someone with more experience of lower league football to come in and work with him, so he could learn from them. Calderwood did that for part of last year and it seemed to do the trick.
 
Never wanted him out, but did start thinking how long he would have as performances were far better than the points we accumulated. This is a good post as plenty did want him out, question is how long before we forget what he has done if we go on a bad run and these ‘supporters’ return to air there views 🤔🤔
 
I’ll fess up that I thought he should have gone early doors.
Thought the players he’d brought in were too inexperienced and we needed some old heads. And we played awful in some of those early games.

Very happy I’ve been proved wrong.
 
Managers I’ve wanted out - Worthington (we were so dull I was once relieved when bury scored to relieve the boredom), Hendry (similar and he struck me as an arrogant ex-decent player who blamed his team for not being as good as he was in the past), Graham Carr, Lee Clark, macdonald (all just very bad). Oh and Paul Ince who I think ruined Tom’s career! Think that’s about it.

Never a single doubt about Critchley, as my post history will bear out. ⚽️🧡
 
22abus said:
I’ll fess up that I thought he should have gone early doors.
Thought the players he’d brought in were too inexperienced and we needed some old heads. And we played awful in some of those early games.

Very happy I’ve been proved wrong.
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Honesty at last ..well done mate 👍
 
Never at any point did I want him out. I said at our lowest point last season to give him the full season and go from there. I knew he'd come good, you could tell what he was trying to do. January loans were a massive point for him last season.

Take the rough with the smooth.
 
Some folk never learn.

Remember Grayson (first time) and the abuse he received on here.
By October the corner had been turned and he was a hero a few months later.
Yes history has repeated itself and we finished third on both occasions,
 
Lala said:
There we go again, telling me what phrases and words I can or cannot use 🤣🤣

If I can’t use my own vocabulary in a debate then it isn’t even a debate 🤔 just a monologue from the OP that we all have to stick to.

You asked for honesty and you got it.

Maybe you didn’t actually want that at all 🧐
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Go Lala
 
I must admit that I seriously doubted him and questioned his methods. Not sure that I wanted him out but you take the good with the bad on all sides and I'm extremely pleased that he's found his feet and delivering the success that we all 'hoped' that he was capable of.
 
When losing to Ipswich 4-1 at home early last season in a game which should never have been brought forward from it's original date as we were in very poor form (results wise) I admit I thought he was out of his depth. He did admit later that it was a mistake.
The fact that Calderwood came on board and Dougal arrived in midfield changed the team from that month onwards.
I do prefer a settled side but love the way he chops and changes just like Holloway as it keeps the non playing players in the knowledge that they might be playing the next game. It's a squad game these days.
 
I never wanted him to leave although I did begin to wonder how long he had left after about 10 games when we had something like 5 points.
We were in all of the games that I watched, the signs were there but we had problems. Yates couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo and was wasting good chances, our defence was weak and we were giving away cheap goals, we had plenty of posession but little in the way of meaningful possession and most important of all we were light weight, getting bullied out of games by seasoned pros.
However Critchley gradually and methodically addressed the problems because he reads the game so well. This season I was surprised at how lightweight we were in the Championship in the first few games, we were out-physicalled several times, but again Critchley has reacted very quickly.
Key moments last season;
  • signing Kenny Dougall - changed things in the middle straight away, player of the season for me
  • Realising that Madine's shithousery would be needed after all, the kids could learn something from the big lad.
 
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