Went to a funeral yesterday mate of mine who was my car mechanic passed away aged just 49 heart attack in his sleep.
Another mate of mine (aged 60) has been told he needs a triple by-pass, one blocked artery a leaking valve and aorta ballooned to 3 times it’s size.
Both were 2 fully fit men who both worked and neither had any previous heart conditions.
Both had had the 3 vaccinations.
That’s truly terrible mate however it doesn’t mean there is a causal link between the two things of course. Hope your mates bypass goes wellWent to a funeral yesterday mate of mine who was my car mechanic passed away aged just 49 heart attack in his sleep.
Another mate of mine (aged 60) has been told he needs a triple by-pass, one blocked artery a leaking valve and aorta ballooned to 3 times it’s size.
Both were 2 fully fit men who both worked and neither had any previous heart conditions.
Both had had the 3 vaccinations.
I agree Andy it doesn’t.That’s truly terrible mate however it doesn’t mean there is a causal link between the two things of course. Hope your mates bypass goes well
They weren't leaked, the FDA released them, and the above claims are just social media nonsense.I'm not really keeping up with this stuff recently, but has anyone on here had a look at the recently released/leaked Pfizer documents?
Appears to show that the real trial efficacy was 12%, protection only lasted 2 weeks, and it caused huge problems in pregnant women.
Once again, the pharmaceutical industry causes untold harm, makes untold billions, and faces no consequences.
HiWent to a funeral yesterday mate of mine who was my car mechanic passed away aged just 49 heart attack in his sleep.
Another mate of mine (aged 60) has been told he needs a triple by-pass, one blocked artery a leaking valve and aorta ballooned to 3 times it’s size.
Both were 2 fully fit men who both worked and neither had any previous heart conditions.
Both had had the 3 vaccinations.
Think his brother lives in Thornton on same road as my work colleague. Was in Fleetwood yesterday and has it happens the hurst passed us on Lord St. Sad news.Went to a funeral yesterday mate of mine who was my car mechanic passed away aged just 49 heart attack in his sleep.
Another mate of mine (aged 60) has been told he needs a triple by-pass, one blocked artery a leaking valve and aorta ballooned to 3 times it’s size.
Both were 2 fully fit men who both worked and neither had any previous heart conditions.
Both had had the 3 vaccinations.
Let’s not forget that many people (despite the vaccine) will have also had CoViD itself. The disease is known to have an impact on the CV system
Yes, always think it's bizarre when people try to draw conclusions from anecdotal or minimal evidence.That’s truly terrible mate however it doesn’t mean there is a causal link between the two things of course. Hope your mates bypass goes well
That's the thing... Pretty much everyone has had the vaccine and likewise everyone has had CoVID... The hospital stats linked above, seem to suggest that something has caused a spike.Yes, always think it's bizarre when people try to draw conclusions from anecdotal or minimal evidence.
e.g. The guy down the road and a lad I know in the pub both under 50 and both died unexpectedly last week - and they both ate cornflakes for breakfast every day for years! Do you think there's a link?
ProbablyYes, always think it's bizarre when people try to draw conclusions from anecdotal or minimal evidence.
e.g. The guy down the road and a lad I know in the pub both under 50 and both died unexpectedly last week - and they both ate cornflakes for breakfast every day for years! Do you think there's a link?
Alternatively it's quite bizarre when people don't contrast what they are told with the things they see and hear through their own experiences.Yes, always think it's bizarre when people try to draw conclusions from anecdotal or minimal evidence.
e.g. The guy down the road and a lad I know in the pub both under 50 and both died unexpectedly last week - and they both ate cornflakes for breakfast every day for years! Do you think there's a link?
Ok then, read the release and tell me where these claims are?The FDA tried to block their release for 75 years. Snopes is literally a married couple who make money through reinforcing system narratives.
Note that the snopes page doesn't actually address the claims, it merely straw-mans an argument about one particular screenshot that some people were sharing.
Woman at work who refused the vaccine is in hospital for the third time after her 4th time of catching the virus. Selfish woman was in work on Monday saying she felt terrible but hadn't tested for covid as she'd no more tests.Let’s not forget that many people (despite the vaccine) will have also had CoViD itself. The disease is known to have an impact on the CV system.
I assume her bosses smell bullshit because I certainly do.Woman at work who refused the vaccine is in hospital for the third time after her 4th time of catching the virus. Selfish woman was in work on Monday saying she felt terrible but hadn't tested for covid as she'd no more tests.
She can't smell anything because she's got covid.I assume her bosses smell bullshit because I certainly do.
Haha...chill out. It sounds like horse shit because I've seen the exact same scenario played out at my place of work. People gaming the system. If the checks and balances are there then fair enough, she isn't a liar, but I'm dubious. Let's leave it there.She can't smell anything because she's got covid.
Each time she's had positive tests and been hospitalised 3 times. Clearly making it up, because the hospitals are practically empty and take people in for a laugh, or not suiting your narrative?
You will think very differently if it happens to you.Yes, always think it's bizarre when people try to draw conclusions from anecdotal or minimal evidence.
e.g. The guy down the road and a lad I know in the pub both under 50 and both died unexpectedly last week - and they both ate cornflakes for breakfast every day for years! Do you think there's a link?
Hmmm... Maybe I am wrong and should trust a friend/someone down the pub/ someone who knows someone who knows someone etc. rather than the scientific experts who've spent decades refining their skills based on long term scientific based research etc. I'll take my chances.Alternatively it's quite bizarre when people don't contrast what they are told with the things they see and hear through their own experiences.
The truth is probably somewhere in between.
And to be fair to Jaffa his account reads like it is genuine and heartfelt and it isn't entirely improbable that there may be a link to covid jabs.
Keeping an open mind is often a good way to deal with these things.
Well yes, you are probably right. But then I would be basing my opinion on a single personal experience - an emotional experience indeed. But not a predicted scientific one... but I would certainly then expect my experience to feed into the overall scientific analysis.You will think very differently if it happens to you.
Do what you want, we all should as long as we aren't harming anyone else. But personally I wouldn't hold all scientists in such high esteem, many of them have done morally questionable things over the past100 years. I also wouldn't follow the government and national media narrative without question either. Do you know that sometimes governments lie and suppress information! This isn't conspiracy stuff it is historical fact.Hmmm... Maybe I am wrong and should trust a friend/someone down the pub/ someone who knows someone who knows someone etc. rather than the scientific experts who've spent decades refining their skills based on long term scientific based research etc. I'll take my chances.
If someone tells you it looks like it’s going to rain do you ask if they are a meteorologist?Hmmm... Maybe I am wrong and should trust a friend/someone down the pub/ someone who knows someone who knows someone etc. rather than the scientific experts who've spent decades refining their skills based on long term scientific based research etc. I'll take my chances.
Governments? No, not at all The nature of their job precludes them to "bending" the truth at times...too many times atm.Do what you want, we all should as long as we aren't harming anyone else. But personally I wouldn't hold all scientists in such high esteem, many of them have done morally questionable things over the past100 years. I also wouldn't follow the government and national media narrative without question either. Do you know that sometimes governments lie and suppress information! This isn't conspiracy stuff it is historical fact.
Like I said the truth will be in-between the 2 extreme views on the jabs, you choose to put complete faith in governments and scientists I prefer to be a bit more open minded.
I don't know how it all started. Neither do you... or perhaps anyone else. The scientists haven't definitively established itIf someone tells you it looks like it’s going to rain do you ask if they are a meteorologist?
You probably think all this started with someone eating a bat
It is, my theory is stay fit, eat well, keep off the meds as long as you can.Governments? No, not at all The nature of their job precludes them to "bending" the truth at times...too many times atm.
Scientists? Yes. On the whole, I put my faith in them. They generally don't have a political axe to grind. Scientific advances are the main reason that most of us over the age of 60 are still alive in the modern world. We wouldn't have been as recently as 200 years ago.
But, of course, feel free to be "open minded" - which as far as I can ascertain from what you've said means base your opinions on what YOU think - regardless of the level of logic or scientific fact behind it. It's your choice.