Would you buy a season ticket with Appleton in charge ?

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Boycott years aside me and my dad have been season ticket holders as long as I can remember. Going to the football is pretty much all me and the old man have in common tbh and when I no longer have that it will be very sad indeed. It’s for that reason and that reason alone that BFC are very lucky in that they get my money season after season regardless of division or dross being served up.

BUT football ultimately is entertainment. It’s supposed to be enjoyable - whether that’s the action on the field, the atmosphere in the stands or the facilities on offer alongside.

I can honestly say what I’m currently seeing is just about as poor as I can remember. It’s on par with Clark and Hendry. The atmosphere has been killed. Thankfully Sadler is making BR a nicer place to be, but as far as entertainment value goes - it’s woeful.

Season ticket sales are surely going to fall off of a cliff regardless of what division we’re in next season unless something changes.
 
Myself, Son and Dad had season tickets last year. We decided just to do the membership thing this year and now too easy not to go. Son has lost interest and Dad can’t be arsed. Whilst Appleton is in charge, nothing will change.
 
Wizaard said:
Each to their own, but that's the epitome of fickle, imo.
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Probably is but won’t lose sleep being labelled that. Getting into debt building an extension at home so the football is easy to miss. I am just not going to spend all afternoon watching Lavery and Yates pretend to be wingers and kids running around in the middle of the park chasing shadows.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
Probably is but won’t lose sleep being labelled that. Getting into debt building an extension at home so the football is easy to miss. I am just not going to spend all afternoon watching Lavery and Yates pretend to be wingers and kids running around in the middle of the park chasing shadows.
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As I said, everyone will have different reasons for renewing and not. Why not be honest and say you can't afford it though, rather than blame Appleton for it?

How did you know it would be shocking this season before a ball was kicked? Surely there's an element of hindsight justification going on.
 
Wizaard said:
As I said, everyone will have different reasons for renewing and not. Why not be honest and say you can't afford it though, rather than blame Appleton for it?

How did you know it would be shocking this season before a ball was kicked? Surely there's an element of hindsight justification going on.
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I think you’re missing the ‘nothing will change’ comment. He’s not blamed Appleton for not going so much this season, but has said Appletons football isn’t exactly encouraging him to come back. Which tbh. I reckon is fair. The exiting attacking football is a million miles from what we’re being served up
 
If anyone who professes to support the club can afford it, then they should help the rebuild and invest in a season ticket.

In straitened times, those fortunate enough to be able to make that decision will be fewer.

And for those who feel it is simply another form of entertainment, then the Appleton-effect will undoubtedly reduce next season’s sales. Regardless of which division we are in or the pricing of on-the-day tickets.
 
Wizaard said:
As I said, everyone will have different reasons for renewing and not. Why not be honest and say you can't afford it though, rather than blame Appleton for it?

How did you know it would be shocking this season before a ball was kicked? Surely there's an element of hindsight justification going on.
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Of course I can afford it. I just choose not to. Went to the first 6 or 7 games using match day pricing but you could start to sense the chaos. I just can’t relate to his decisions like Yates and Lavery on the wings. I’m just deflated by the whole thing.
 
I'm certainly not fickle but this is dire and the manager is alienating the fans, and I think the answer is no, I want to see an effort from the manager to engage with us and be with us where we feel eight behind him.
Our atmosphere has gone and if he is not gone before Hull you could well get the crowd turning nasty on him there.
So no from me but if he wasn't here and we went down I'd still buy one
FTSO
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
Of course I can afford it. I just choose not to. Went to the first 6 or 7 games using match day pricing but you could start to sense the chaos. I just can’t relate to his decisions like Yates and Lavery on the wings. I’m just deflated by the whole thing.
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You said you'd gone into debt with an extension. Apologies.

I can understand playing Yates there as he scored 20+ for Swindon there, but not Lavery.
 
It seems to me that lots of people have got sucked into a negative death spiral this season. The team are struggling with injuries and they need some positivity from the supporters to help them along. How do you think they feel if we keep moaning all the time? Toxic negativity isn't helping anybody.
 
Sorry was just meant renovations are expensive and stressful so a contributing factor when deciding do I get a match day ticket. Whether it’s an excuse, probably.

Yates scores goals which is why he gets away with it but generally he is shite on the wing. Wingers should be creating and exciting fans, Yates doesn’t do that playing there. He should be upfront. I’d rather watch CJ on the wing despite his poor quality at times.
 
I will continue to buy a season ticket regardless of the manager. If current form continues then he won't be here much longer, so the question becomes irrelevant. However, if form improves and we steadily move clear of relegation then many of us, me included would need to eat our words (but it won't happen). In the end Managers are temporary, the club is permanent.
 
RambleFan said:
Let's face it most of us would still get a ST even if we were back in league 2.
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That’s true. But some won’t and we certainly won’t grow the fanbase any time soon. My nephews from Birkenhead and the poor kid’s been brought up a Tranmere fan surrounded by Liverpool and Everton fans - which was no doubt tough enough. I started taking him to Blackpool games after Covid and he loved it. He was a Seasider. But since Appletons come in and the atmospheres turned he’s just not that interested. He’s just a kid but there’s gonna be hundreds more just like him. We missed a generation of fans just like him thanks to the Oystons and we’re gonna start losing out on them again unless we can get that feel good factor back soon.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
That’s true. But some won’t and we certainly won’t grow the fanbase any time soon. My nephews from Birkenhead and the poor kid’s been brought up a Tranmere fan surrounded by Liverpool and Everton fans - which was no doubt tough enough. I started taking him to Blackpool games after Covid and he loved it. He was a Seasider. But since Appletons come in and the atmospheres turned he’s just not that interested. He’s just a kid but there’s gonna be hundreds more just like him. We missed a generation of fans just like him thanks to the Oystons and we’re gonna start losing out on them again unless we can get that feel good factor back soon.
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Fans need to man up and support the team I honestly think is fcuking bizarre that people won't got to matches because they don't Iike the manager

Fickle twats
 
Philbfctrois said:
Fans need to man up and support the team I honestly think is fcuking bizarre that people won't got to matches because they don't Iike the manager

Fickle twats
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Kids. Children. People without allegiance. You’re the first to bang on about wanting BR full of home fans and that giving too many away tickets away is a mistake - well to get that you’ve actually got to attract the fair weather fans and those that aren’t just gonna hand over money and grin and bear a couple of hours of dog shit served up by a clueless manager in a soulless atmosphere free stadium
 
LA1 Seasider said:
Kids. Children. People without allegiance. You’re the first to bang on about wanting BR full of home fans and that giving too many away tickets away is a mistake - well to get that you’ve actually got to attract the fair weather fans and those that aren’t just gonna hand over money and grin and bear a couple of hours of dog shit served up by a clueless manager in a soulless atmosphere free stadium
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It's not dogshit though and the manager isn't clueless
 
LA1 Seasider said:
It absolutely is dog shit. And I’m yet to see a sign that the manager does know what he’s doing. Given his job is to win football matches the evidence available to me suggests he doesn’t know what he’s doing.
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The evidence to me is we have several players missing and the squad is considerably weaker that last season

That's the evidence

Infact the constant negativity from some of our fans is actually making things worse

The players and manager need our backing
 
Just a few short weeks ago after Coventry some were talking of Play Offs!
Amazing how a run of poor form can swing things.

As a long time Pool fan you have to live with the highs and lows.
We are a Championship side with a massive injury list.
A win could leapfrog us up the table!
 
There is no way that this season at home is on a par with Hendry or Clark. Let’s not be dramatic.

I’ve just had a look at our home games.

Reading 1-0 (Good)
Swansea 0-1 (Poor)
Bristol City 3-3 (Good)
Blackburn 0-1 (Poor)
Norwich 0-1 (Poor)
Watford 3-1 (Quality)
Hull 1-3 (Dogshit)
Knobbers 4-2 (Quality)
Luton 0-1 (Poor- should have got a point)
Boro 0-3 (Total Dogshit)
Birmingham 0-0 (poor)

Won 3, Drawn 2, Lost 6.

It’s not good enough and Hull and Boro were piss poor but comparing it to Colin Hendry is nonsense.
 
Adams Kebab said:
There is no way that this season at home is on a par with Hendry or Clark. Let’s not be dramatic.

I’ve just had a look at our home games.

Reading 1-0 (Good)
Swansea 0-1 (Poor)
Bristol City 3-3 (Good)
Blackburn 0-1 (Poor)
Norwich 0-1 (Poor)
Watford 3-1 (Quality)
Hull 1-3 (Dogshit)
Knobbers 4-2 (Quality)
Luton 0-1 (Poor- should have got a point)
Boro 0-3 (Total Dogshit)
Birmingham 0-0 (poor)

Won 3, Drawn 2, Lost 6.

It’s not good enough and Hull and Boro were piss poor but comparing it to Colin Hendry is nonsense.
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It’s not just results. The overall quality of football is terrible - especially with the squad at the managers disposal. I actually think a few results flatter us too. PNE at home, Huddersfield away, the last 2 games - all games we didn’t deserve the 3 or 1 point on balance.
 
Adams Kebab said:
There is no way that this season at home is on a par with Hendry or Clark. Let’s not be dramatic.

I’ve just had a look at our home games.

Reading 1-0 (Good)
Swansea 0-1 (Poor)
Bristol City 3-3 (Good)
Blackburn 0-1 (Poor)
Norwich 0-1 (Poor)
Watford 3-1 (Quality)
Hull 1-3 (Dogshit)
Knobbers 4-2 (Quality)
Luton 0-1 (Poor- should have got a point)
Boro 0-3 (Total Dogshit)
Birmingham 0-0 (poor)

Won 3, Drawn 2, Lost 6.

It’s not good enough and Hull and Boro were piss poor but comparing it to Colin Hendry is nonsense.
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Swansea unlucky we missed a penalty at 0.0 and I thought we more than matched Luton and Norwich

To me we have had 3 poor home games, Boro, Blackburn and Hull

The rest have been OK
 
LA1 Seasider said:
It’s not just results. The overall quality of football is terrible - especially with the squad at the managers disposal. I actually think a few results flatter us too. PNE at home, Huddersfield away, the last 2 games - all games we didn’t deserve the 3 or 1 point on balance.
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The squad at the managers disposal is the problem, if you think it's good enough for a Championship side then that's the problem and why you are so negative towards the manager
 
Philbfctrois said:
Swansea unlucky we missed a penalty at 0.0 and I thought we more than matched Luton and Norwich

To me we have had 3 poor home games, Boro, Blackburn and Hull

The rest have been OK
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Yep you’re right, forgot the missed pen v Swansea.

The issue is now he’s never going to win over the majority of the fanbase so we need to sack it off. Said this from the day he got it.

Learn from our mistakes and move on.

The concern is how he got the job in the first place.
 
Adams Kebab said:
Yep you’re right, forgot the missed pen v Swansea.

The issue is now he’s never going to win over the majority of the fanbase so we need to sack it off. Said this from the day he got it.

Learn from our mistakes and move on.

The concern is how he got the job in the first place.
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I said the same after the Wigan game that was the time for a change, not because of the performance as we had 10 men for most of the game and no fit defensive players on the bench, more a case of losing the fans

I still can't believe the grief he gets yet when Critchley had similar bad runs he had full support from the board and fans alike
 
Philbfctrois said:
Swansea unlucky we missed a penalty at 0.0 and I thought we more than matched Luton and Norwich

To me we have had 3 poor home games, Boro, Blackburn and Hull

The rest have been OK
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The rest have been OK?
Its been turgid
We can't all play beautiful flowing football but it's been woeful most if the time
You can blame transfers injuries etc but the team should be sent out with a plan
Thats the least we can expect from any coach but his teams look clueless
Devoid of any basic structure
The players body language has been awful on the whole
We can all accept defeats but I won't accept the ineptitude on show
it smacks of a basic lack of cohesion
And that can only come from one place
 
Couldnt afford one pre season so looking at a half one for remaining . my main issue is that my car is buggered and needs major repairs , head gasket, cylinder head , which i'm struggling to afford and makes it dodgy on longer outings. have used trains but even they cant be trusted week in week out
 
Philbfctrois said:
I said the same after the Wigan game that was the time for a change, not because of the performance as we had 10 men for most of the game and no fit defensive players on the bench, more a case of losing the fans

I still can't believe the grief he gets yet when Critchley had similar bad runs he had full support from the board and fans alike
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The thing that’s pissed me off the most of all of it is, you would have to be absolutely stupid to not be able to see any of this coming from appointing him. People haven’t been able to wait to stick the boot in.

The board flapped it & panicked when Critchley bailed and whether it’s they think they know best or they thought they could get away with it, I don’t know, but they’ve appointed someone who was on a hiding to nothing from the start & then took the piss even more by not properly backing him.

They’ve tried to cut corners across everything with the appointment and recruitment.
 
I'll continue to renew, but obviously with different levels of commitment some won't, thats just normal when things are poor, doesn't really help but we're not unique in that happening.

Something needs to change though, as it's completely flat and we won't survive of not together and behind the team and manager.

It's possible to get that if we win but I don't think tye feelgood will ever come back now under Appleton, as soon as we lose a few people will want rid.

So now we're in this stupid situation where the board went against fan will to bring him in knowing what would happen or completely underestimating it.

However it went wrong it did go wrong, bad hand and unlucky but also there has been a lack of motivation and no real organisation in the side, with enough oit there to do far better.

The break comes, perfect time to change it maybe? But because they didn't back him that well and maybe not to be proven wrong, he stays. We sort of limp on.

Now if we get rid a new man has little time to assess the squad and we have to reinvest fast in Jan. If he stays he might be signing people and then he's gone very soon.

Although you'd expect players to be signed just of quality who will work under anyone.

But again we probably need to change it to survive for positivity and to give all a lift, but not a great time to change the manager now, the break was ideal.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
Boycott years aside me and my dad have been season ticket holders as long as I can remember. Going to the football is pretty much all me and the old man have in common tbh and when I no longer have that it will be very sad indeed. It’s for that reason and that reason alone that BFC are very lucky in that they get my money season after season regardless of division or dross being served up.

BUT football ultimately is entertainment. It’s supposed to be enjoyable - whether that’s the action on the field, the atmosphere in the stands or the facilities on offer alongside.

I can honestly say what I’m currently seeing is just about as poor as I can remember. It’s on par with Clark and Hendry. The atmosphere has been killed. Thankfully Sadler is making BR a nicer place to be, but as far as entertainment value goes - it’s woeful.

Season ticket sales are surely going to fall off of a cliff regardless of what division we’re in next season unless something changes.
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I have been a supporter for many decades and experienced a range of emotions during that time .

During Cartmell and Oystons ownership I never felt we had a future even during that season in the Prem.

Now we have an owner who's spending millions rebuilding the Club and for the FUTURE.

Yes the footballs poor at the moment but Simon imo deserves my total support and I believe he will eventually succeed and make OUR CLUB ( How often could we call it that in the past).a success. UTMP
 
Adams Kebab said:
The thing that’s pissed me off the most of all of it is, you would have to be absolutely stupid to not be able to see any of this coming from appointing him. People haven’t been able to wait to stick the boot in.

The board flapped it & panicked when Critchley bailed and whether it’s they think they know best or they thought they could get away with it, I don’t know, but they’ve appointed someone who was on a hiding to nothing from the start & then took the piss even more by not properly backing him.

They’ve tried to cut corners across everything with the appointment and recruitment.
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The recruitment process, to land on Appleton, was frankly pathetic after what was said about what they were looking for.

As said they knew he wasn't liked, but maybe they thought he'll do ok and prove people wrong, however it happened he hasn't.

It was always going to kill the feelgood factor somewhat, as losing Critchley to most was a big unexpected negative. We countered that with a largely perceived massive negative and followed with a negative summer and price rises.

From day 1 the atmosphere was way less.

Going back twice now for managers who weren't even managers you'd be exited to go back for.... shows a real lack of ambition and understanding of football plus poor football business knowledge for me. Take about not understanding your audience.

As if you want to sell tickets and excite people, you get someone the fans will be exited about. Its really simple. It would have been really easy to create a buzz and keep it going and it all start with that appointment.

I can forgive the Grayson one although I certainly wouldn't have gone that way, but to make another ex manager blunder so soon after, it's a bit like not learning.

2 oit of 3 really uninspiring choices in there that makes me question what on earth the board were thinking.

The thing is it was completely obvious, speak to anyone on here or any fan and we'd have said get someone new, someone inspiring who fans will get behind, have no history with etc. Or if we do go for someone we know like Evatt, it's all completely positive and would have put bums on seats, would have kept the feelgood factor going, been given time and a fair crack etc.

Anyone who knows bfc fans would know how to fill the stadium better and keep the feelgood factor going.
 
JJpool said:
The recruitment process, to land on Appleton, was frankly pathetic after what was said about what they were looking for.

As said they knew he wasn't liked, but maybe they thought he'll do ok and prove people wrong, however it happened he hasn't.

It was always going to kill the feelgood factor somewhat, as losing Critchley to most was a big unexpected negative. We countered that with a largely perceived massive negative and followed with a negative summer and price rises.

From day 1 the atmosphere was way less.

Going back twice now for managers who weren't even managers you'd be exited to go back for.... shows a real lack of ambition and understanding of football plus poor football business knowledge for me. Take about not understanding your audience.

As if you want to sell tickets and excite people, you get someone the fans will be exited about. Its really simple. It would have been really easy to create a buzz and keep it going and it all start with that appointment.

I can forgive the Grayson one although I certainly wouldn't have gone that way, but to make another ex manager blunder so soon after, it's a bit like not learning.

2 oit of 3 really uninspiring choices in there that makes me question what on earth the board were thinking.

The thing is it was completely obvious, speak to anyone on here or any fan and we'd have said get someone new, someone inspiring who fans will get behind, have no history with etc. Or if we do go for someone we know like Evatt, it's all completely positive and would have put bums on seats, would have kept the feelgood factor going, been given time and a fair crack etc.

Anyone who knows bfc fans would know how to fill the stadium better and keep the feelgood factor going.
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Never go back also applies to Evatt and Thompson.
 
If I don’t renew next season it won’t be because of who the manager is or (god forbid) what league we’re in. It’ll be for other reasons.
 
Wizaard said:
Never go back also applies to Evatt and Thompson.
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Evatt has never been our manager, he's an ex player and a loved one.

That's completely different, it's a surefire way to get fans on board and even more behind the manager if its a popular ex player involved.

But as said, if you want to maximise ticket sales someone like Evatt would do that. Someone new would be given a clean slate and fair crack.

Even a new guy with an ex player as an assistant can create buy in, they get more time because of their past connection.
 
We had an engaging manager last time and look where that ended ,I’m not arsed what the manager does it’s what he does on the training ground I want .We’ve had horrendous injuries on top of the poor recruitment in the summer.Hopefully January sorts it out and we can get our season going again like it looked to be before the injuries kicked in .Obviously there is a point at which we’re in serious doo doo land but that isn’t just yet .
 
It never used to like this as a fan you bought a ST or not whatever your circumstances now along comes social media and you have to justify your actions and then argue the toss about it.

I'll get one whoever is in charge or owner because I'm done with the boycotting,lived abroad,child,new house,skint etc etc all the reasons I haven't bought a ST in years gone by.
 
Been going since 1958/59, players/managers come and go, as a life long supporter I back my team win, loose or draw. Some of the coments on here are from people who want instant success.
 
You surely go to the match to support the team. So if we had a really good manager who left and went to say Southampton would you buy a Southampton season ticket cause you like the way that manager so much ?? No. You think he is a w**ker and carry on supporting Blackpool
Some very strange thinking from people this season just turn up to games and get behind the team.
 
Philbfctrois said:
I said the same after the Wigan game that was the time for a change, not because of the performance as we had 10 men for most of the game and no fit defensive players on the bench, more a case of losing the fans

I still can't believe the grief he gets yet when Critchley had similar bad runs he had full support from the board and fans alike
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When Critchley arrived he was new to us and a fresh face to league management & wasn’t seen as a miserable & angry returnee who hadn’t been liked previously. That’s what’s caused the lack of support for Appleton IMO. I accepted the board’s stance on his appointment as I just want us to do well. If he stays as manager he needs the tools to do the job, but that means he has to really be given until the end of February or the whole season. It’s a risk, but so is getting rid & bringing someone else in. The board will surely know if the players are still on board with him & if they are he should stay. If not he has to go.
 
Sooty59 said:
When Critchley arrived he was new to us and a fresh face to league management & wasn’t seen as a miserable & angry returnee who hadn’t been liked previously. That’s what’s caused the lack of support for Appleton IMO. I accepted the board’s stance on his appointment as I just want us to do well. If he stays as manager he needs the tools to do the job, but that means he has to really be given until the end of February or the whole season. It’s a risk, but so is getting rid & bringing someone else in. The board will surely know if the players are still on board with him & if they are he should stay. If not he has to go.
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Of course they are on board with him we showed fighting spirit again yesterday
 
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