Jake Daniels

Blackpool striker Jake Daniels will remain at Bradford Park Avenue until the end of the 2023/24 campaign it has been decided.
It was announced that Daniels was on loan at the Horsfall Stadium until the end of the season when he joined in early February. His loan club have since reiterated that he will remain with them until their season concludes.
 
Meliora said:
Yes, why should/ will he be released?
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IMO he hasn't kicked on from early potential and personally can you see him breaking into the first team in the next two/three seasons personally no, i also think there are better players in his position in the youth system at the club, i could be wrong who know only a personal view, we will know very soon, to be honest i don't even know if his contract expires at the end of this season.
 
ansdellmafia said:
He’s been playing in a league below AFC Fylde . He should have been kicking on in a league better than that if he was to be considered good enough for us .
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For a player who was out of form, out of sorts and who needed to regain his confidence, arguably it was the best move for him.
Signed his pro deal in 2022 and can't imagine he got more than two years with us and so I'd have thought it would now be up.
Let's not forget he's still only 19. I'd give him another 12 months and send him out on a half season loan to a National League/League Two club at the start of next season and see what progress he makes.
 
Sea sea seasiders said:
4 goals and 4 assists (in 11 matches) in a struggling side is a fair return I'd say.. Especially playing in midfield! 👍
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Exactly, I think there's a few people on here very quick to jump on him, for whatever reason, whilst ignoring the facts and the context of his loan.

The volume of opinions about him far outweigh those of his peers who also recently signed pro terms.
 
Sounds like he contributed to today's win for the youngsters, but there is always a Zak Emerson waiting in the wings!!
 
Jake signed a 2 year deal which expires this June. I can't find any reference to there being an option year but that doesn't mean there isn’t one. 3 years is the maximum length of deal for anyone at his age. (I'll try and find out).
Jake has, IMO, all the technical skills to become a good footballer. He effectively missed last season (2022/23) which obviously hasn't helped his development so maybe it's 12months to early to make a final decision.
I agree with what has been said by others, give him another 12 months, get him on loan at a level up from Bradford PA until Christmas and if that's successful try and move him up again.
 
Insider said:
Jake signed a 2 year deal which expires this June. I can't find any reference to there being an option year but that doesn't mean there isn’t one. 3 years is the maximum length of deal for anyone at his age. (I'll try and find out).
Jake has, IMO, all the technical skills to become a good footballer. He effectively missed last season (2022/23) which obviously hasn't helped his development so maybe it's 12months to early to make a final decision.
I agree with what has been said by others, give him another 12 months, get him on loan at a level up from Bradford PA until Christmas and if that's successful try and move him up again.
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That seems to be the club's model, NPL-->NLN-->NL-->L2-->?
 
BFCfan33 said:
IMO he hasn't kicked on from early potential and personally can you see him breaking into the first team in the next two/three seasons personally no, i also think there are better players in his position in the youth system at the club, i could be wrong who know only a personal view, we will know very soon, to be honest i don't even know if his contract expires at the end of this season.
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Have u ever watched him play?? U don't even know what position he plays in!
 
Insider said:
Jake signed a 2 year deal which expires this June. I can't find any reference to there being an option year but that doesn't mean there isn’t one. 3 years is the maximum length of deal for anyone at his age. (I'll try and find out).
Jake has, IMO, all the technical skills to become a good footballer. He effectively missed last season (2022/23) which obviously hasn't helped his development so maybe it's 12months to early to make a final decision.
I agree with what has been said by others, give him another 12 months, get him on loan at a level up from Bradford PA until Christmas and if that's successful try and move him up again.
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Powder puff. Reached his level
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
So you're shit at golf, doesn't necessarily translate...
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You really love being a nause don't you.
Poolster said not to write him off because he played well 3 years ago, suggesting he may come good.
My example was you may play well at sometime but it may never return.
A bit like saying Lytham_fy8 once posted something nice on a message board. You see? That's never likely to happen again 🤷
 
Insider said:
Jake signed a 2 year deal which expires this June. I can't find any reference to there being an option year but that doesn't mean there isn’t one. 3 years is the maximum length of deal for anyone at his age. (I'll try and find out).
Jake has, IMO, all the technical skills to become a good footballer. He effectively missed last season (2022/23) which obviously hasn't helped his development so maybe it's 12months to early to make a final decision.
I agree with what has been said by others, give him another 12 months, get him on loan at a level up from Bradford PA until Christmas and if that's successful try and move him up again.
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Insider, why do we seem to be one of the only clubs in football obsessed with loaning players out until they are 20-21?

Apter is a clear example of this, it was very clear before he was loaned to Tranmere that he would be able to cut it at this level. And yet we've sent him out, he's smashed it. And then we've sent him out again.

When do we throw these kids into the deep end and play League football? There are copious examples of players that are breaking through at 16/17/18 at every other club?
 
Wizzerboy said:
You really love being a nause don't you.
Poolster said not to write him off because he played well 3 years ago, suggesting he may come good.
My example was you may play well at sometime but it may never return.
A bit like saying Lytham_fy8 once posted something nice on a message board. You see? That's never likely to happen again 🤷
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But Jake is a professional footballer which comes with the prerequisite of having inherent ability which is evident on a regular basis, unlike some fella who once hacked his way around a golf course semi successfully.

I might be a **, but it's always with a point, so I apologise for being a little too succinct when dismissing your example as bollocks.
 
SeasideKurt said:
Insider, why do we seem to be one of the only clubs in football obsessed with loaning players out until they are 20-21?

Apter is a clear example of this, it was very clear before he was loaned to Tranmere that he would be able to cut it at this level. And yet we've sent him out, he's smashed it. And then we've sent him out again.

When do we throw these kids into the deep end and play League football? There are copious examples of players that are breaking through at 16/17/18 at every other club?
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I'd be interested to see some of these "copious examples of players breaking through at 16/17 at every other club".

Either way, I'd suggest it's the level the club play at, plus the level the reserves play at.

The upper end of L1 was perhaps a bit too high for Apter to play regularly this season, so sending him to Tranmere was a good move for his development, and we'll get him back next season when we know he is ready to be part of the team.

As far as the others are concerned, the reserves play in the Central League, which is essentially non-competitive practice matches, so for competitive men's football they're probably better off in NPL/NL.

I think we have to trust that Donnelly/Dobbie have a better handle on where the players are than we do.
 
Lost Seasider said:
I'd be interested to see some of these "copious examples of players breaking through at 16/17 at every other club".

Either way, I'd suggest it's the level the club play at, plus the level the reserves play at.

The upper end of L1 was perhaps a bit too high for Apter to play regularly this season, so sending him to Tranmere was a good move for his development, and we'll get him back next season when we know he is ready to be part of the team.

As far as the others are concerned, the reserves play in the Central League, which is essentially non-competitive practice matches, so for competitive men's football they're probably better off in NPL/NL.

I think we have to trust that Donnelly/Dobbie have a better handle on where the players are than we do.
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I could probably send you 1000 examples of players across the football league / premier league over the years who have broken into the first team at their football clubs prior to the age of 20.

In the Premier League you can name hundreds without remotely thinking about it. Even the knobbers have played an 18 year old in their first team this year for 15 odd games. I am sure Peteborough have multiple players around 20-21 starting every week.

I don't agree, Apter clearly showing his level immediately and consistently was above that level and he could have done that here anyway after January.
 
Lost Seasider said:
I'd be interested to see some of these "copious examples of players breaking through at 16/17 at every other club".

Either way, I'd suggest it's the level the club play at, plus the level the reserves play at.

The upper end of L1 was perhaps a bit too high for Apter to play regularly this season, so sending him to Tranmere was a good move for his development, and we'll get him back next season when we know he is ready to be part of the team.

As far as the others are concerned, the reserves play in the Central League, which is essentially non-competitive practice matches, so for competitive men's football they're probably better off in NPL/NL.

I think we have to trust that Donnelly/Dobbie have a better handle on where the players are than we do.
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I more or less agree with that, apart from the opening sentence, so it replies to @SeasideKurt on my behalf as well.
There are lots of examples of 18 yr olds breaking through into EFL, quite a few 17yr olds and some 16s as well, I think we played against one of those this season.
Kyle Joseph was mentioned recently as, I think, the 2nd youngest player to play for in the EFL.
Teams like Accy, for obvious reasons, frequently play players from their u18 squad.
Despite watching the U18s regularly that's generally against players at Category 3 Academy so I have to bear that in mind.
Jake Daniels team did however compete very well against Cat 1 academies in their FA Youth Cup run and only lost at Chelsea in the quarter final.
So why don't we give any of our Academy a chance?
Is Critch too cautious or does he just know better than us?
He's keen enough to give youngsters from other Academies (3 more were on trial for the Ressies yesterday) a chance with some noticable diamonds but also a few duffers
Alternatively are our Academy staff advising that our crop of youngsters just aren't good enough?
Rob Apter his head and shoulders the best of the current bunch and Jack Moore has trained exclusively with the 1st team since his return from Chorley. We'll see next season if either or both get a chance.
It will be interesting to see the retained list from the u18s and the Development Squad because that's the clearest indication of those that we still think might have a future.
Finally from the limited knowledge I have the next generation looks promising.
 
CAGU said:
Wizzer You playing Lytham Trophy this weekend?
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Nope, had my first knock at Carlisle last Friday .
First time I'd hit a ball since October of last year!!!
I've a couple of lancashire golf union comps lined up but looking like a quiet season for me this year🤷
 
SeasideKurt said:
I could probably send you 1000 examples of players across the football league / premier league over the years who have broken into the first team at their football clubs prior to the age of 20.

In the Premier League you can name hundreds without remotely thinking about it. Even the knobbers have played an 18 year old in their first team this year for 15 odd games. I am sure Peteborough have multiple players around 20-21 starting every week.
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I'd wager that a lot of those (certainly PL) are coming out of Cat 1 academies, or at least well established Cat 2 ones, who'll have first pick of the players, who will play week in/week out in the U18 PL against the very best at their age group, and even then a lot won't make it into the U21 squad, and those that do won't normally play in the league until their 19/20 earliest, if they ever make it at all.

I'd be interested to see how many Cat 3 academies are bringing in players at the upper end of L1 and above, and how often that occurs.

Let's also bear in mind that the academy has only been taken seriously since Sadler took over, and we had Covid in the middle of that as well, so realistically, only about 3 years to catch up with clubs that have been doing this for decades, some of which are spending tens of millions of pounds per year on their academy.

You can't just flick a switch and start printing EFL ready players, it's going to take time, the fact that we've got a 21 y/o who's now L1 ready and is probably on a par or better than most of what Manchester City produce is a minor miracle in its own right.
 
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