Interview with Simon Sadler after the 6pm news on Radio Lancs tonight (Tuesday).

JJpool said:
Really good interview and we have a great owner.

Sadly the manager / team is letting him down.

You feel positive listening to that and then another shambles tonight.

OK he brought him in and I wouldnt jave gone back again, but he should be doing better.

I don't want us to keep getting rid of managers, we need consistency, but it's hard to see an effective style of play away from home and at home sometimes.

I've also got to say NC failed after leaving us and did he come back the same? Were his assistants vital in some of the success SS attributes to him, although obviously he was responsible for some.

It's all well and good him saying if not this season he'll have to do it next, but it could be a complete waste of 2 seasons.

He may be a decent developer of players, but is he a good manager? Are we improving, building towards a style? It's hard to see and he seems to struggle to get us to play effective football on the floor.
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He's a terrible manager and however great Sadler is at most of the running of the club he is completely clueless about managers and the football itself and that is a pretty important part to get right. Saying Critchley is safe all next season too was a really stupid thing to say in my opinion, unless he is happy we are a mid table league 1 side.
 
Being the custodian of the club brings with it a responsibility to make sound managerial appointments. It’s been one car crash after another, and the relationship with NC is just too cosy. The man thinks he can fist pump after a win, yet regularly ignore travelling fans after a poor performance.

Sadly, what we will see is falling ST sales and more empty seats, which will inevitably lead to infrastructure plans being put back further. I’m at the point of thinking that it will be a convenient reason for rolling back on plans.

Fans don’t expect promotion, but they do expect the manager to get the very best out of available resources and for the team to turn up for each game. Bad performances will happen, but the only thing we are consistent with, is producing shockers. Sadly, there is too much apathy and I cannot recall another manager getting such an easy ride from fans in the ground. I fear we are sleepwalking into accepting mediocrity.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
Being the custodian of the club brings with it a responsibility to make sound managerial appointments. It’s been one car crash after another, and the relationship with NC is just too cosy. The man thinks he can fist pump after a win, yet regularly ignore travelling fans after a poor performance.

Sadly, what we will see is falling ST sales and more empty seats, which will inevitably lead to infrastructure plans being put back further. I’m at the point of thinking that it will be a convenient reason for rolling back on plans.

Fans don’t expect promotion, but they do expect the manager to get the very best out of available resources and for the team to turn up for each game. Bad performances will happen, but the only thing we are consistent with, is producing shockers. Sadly, there is too much apathy and I cannot recall another manager getting such an easy ride from fans in the ground. I fear we are sleepwalking into accepting mediocrity.
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But he's better than the vermin, he's putting his own money in, I mean he is acting like a football club owner that has gone and bought a club and is having to do what normal football club owners do, I understand after the last lot that he is a real breath of fresh air, but the adulation he gets is a bit cringe at times. Thanks for stabilising the club Sadler and for keeping it running nicely, but for god's sake, stop getting involved with the managerial appointments and don't give Critchley the luxury of another 18 months free hit, he doesn't deserve it and he's mugging you off.
 
hertfordseasider said:
But he's better than the vermin, he's putting his own money in, I mean he is acting like a football club owner that has gone and bought a club and is having to do what normal football club owners do, I understand after the last lot that he is a real breath of fresh air, but the adulation he gets is a bit cringe at times. Thanks for stabilising the club Sadler and for keeping it running nicely, but for god's sake, stop getting involved with the managerial appointments and don't give Critchley the luxury of another 118 months free hit, he doesn't deserve it and he's mugging you off.
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I’ve nothing against SS and I don’t ever compare to the past owners. I want the penny to drop and for SS to understand the threat we face if we carry on as we are. Next season will be harder and before you know it, our vision is to be a solid L1 team. Eventually that approach takes your towards the bottom end of L1, and we’ve been there and we know what happens.

Honestly, I’m fed up about hearing how much money he’s put in. It was a business decision and football clubs cost a lot to run. What I keep in mind is that since he took over, fans from a very a deprived area have put their support & money behind him. In my 40 years as a fan, I’ve never witnessed such understanding and patience in the ground. Yet, it seems fans are being cast as the villains.

Rather than constantly justifying actions, it’s time to focus on what really matters in a football club, the on-pitch performances. Simon has funded the squad well for L1 and he will not see the benefit from that with NC in charge.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
I’ve nothing against SS and I don’t ever compare to the past owners. I want the penny to drop and for SS to understand the threat we face if we carry on as we are. Next season will be harder and before you know it, our vision is to be a solid L1 team. Eventually that approach takes your towards the bottom end of L1, and we’ve been there and we know what happens.

Honestly, I’m fed up about hearing how much money he’s put in. It was a business decision and football clubs cost a lot to run. What I keep in mind is that since he took over, fans from a very a deprived area have put their support & money behind him. In my 40 years as a fan, I’ve never witnessed such understanding and patience in the ground. Yet, it seems fans are being cast as the villains.

Rather than constantly justifying actions, it’s time to focus on what really matters in a football club, the on-pitch performances. Simon has funded the squad well for L1 and he will not see the benefit from that with NC in charge.
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I agree but the actual managerial appointment is massive as is the support staff, I feel he has been let down so far and his inexperience in that area of running a football club is showing.
 
hertfordseasider said:
I agree but the actual managerial appointment is massive as is the support staff, I feel he has been let down so far and his inexperience in that area of running a football club is showing.
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It’s hard to agree he’s been let down, because he seems content with what’s happening on the pitch. I don’t know if it’s inexperience or arrogance, but he’s a successful businessman, and I think the latter is more likely. It’s staring him in the face and he keeps looking in the opposite direction. The positivity, feel good factor, goodwill, patience….it’s all hanging by a thread. If he thinks it just a small minority on this forum, then he’s badly mistaken. His problem is NC, not the fans.
 
hertfordseasider said:
He's a terrible manager and however great Sadler is at most of the running of the club he is completely clueless about managers and the football itself and that is a pretty important part to get right. Saying Critchley is safe all next season too was a really stupid thing to say in my opinion, unless he is happy we are a mid table league 1 side.
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The managerial choices have not been ones many others would have picked.

I can understand Grayson in a way, given he said we had almost no-one who knew the club and he'd been here before. Even then he wasn't inspiring anymore and he didn't know the BFC he walked into in quite the same way. But ok he did know the club, I can excuse the first choice and he acted promptly in replacing hik with a positive appointment.

NC first time worked out well, perfect storm maybe, benefited like SS said from covid and the salary cap. We just don't know how much his assistants at the time helped. But NC went away and didn't succeed, which can happen, but didn't come back exactly the same, plays different and doesnt seem the same tactically. Maybe he is the same but is missing those assistants. I don't know, but I do know hes always seemed to find it hard to get us to play any sort of effective passing style.

Appleton was a disaster, you've got to think it was meant to be Rosenior but he apparently tried to get more money or something didn't he or maybe thought it'd be a tough ask with the budget and it didn't happen.

Still speculation but it seems rather than restarting the process they then went with the next best candidate, Appleton. He shouldn't have been on the list, disappointing for a fan owner to not see what would happen there.

McCarthy was apparently Badlan's idea, but again we don't know 100%. Season was already a disaster anyway.

For me I would always be looking towards going for a manager who can play good effective passing football and build that style, but one that'll create a buzz too ideally. Usually you need a fresh start for full fan buy in or if you do utilise positive familiarly in some way, with someone like Dobbie involved in some way, it's not going back to an ex manager with baggage, it's an ex player that's only positive, that would attract many fans and be given more time.

Ones like that are gambles yes but positive exciting gambles, any is a gamble, going back to NC is as is he the same, will he have the same support? He'll get less time from fans, rightly or wrongly.

Tbh, despite what he's said about him, the "if he doesn't do it this season hes going to have to do it next season", if we really fail this season and haven't shown the improvement we thought we would in this crucial period, I don't think SS would just keep him if it's really not working. The people he's employed to make football decisions I think would be having a word...

But he does say we need to get back up sooner rather than later and that he says I suppose it's going according to the Blackpool plan so far, as long as we make it to the playoffs in the end.

I get the feeling that by saying if not this then next season, SS is thinking you get close or get in the playoffs and don't quite make it. Not sure he'd be happy about abject failure getting nowhere near and little sign of improvement in a playing style, building towards something.
 
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Sadler came over a bit nervy I thought, a bit unsure, a bit wary. Bashful maybe. Uncomfortable.

Strikes me as a genuine guy though, I think we actually are lucky to have him when you consider how the game is. But his football instincts aren't great, so we pay a bit of a price. We've got an honest genuine guy who cares about the club and is prepared to put his hand in his pocket. We should all be grateful for that. But those qualities don't win you trophies.

I think he likes working with NC cos NC is honest and hard working and dependable. Which won't win too many trophies but keeps things stable. Sadler can't change things every time the fans get pissed off though, can he? It's a very tough gig running a football club, and he craves stability and straight forward people around him first and foremost. Predictable behaviour, predictable budgets, patience with results. You can't always get what you want.
 
voyeur said:
Sadler came over a bit nervy I thought, a bit unsure, a bit wary. Bashful maybe. Uncomfortable.

Strikes me as a genuine guy though, I think we actually are lucky to have him when you consider how the game is. But his football instincts aren't great, so we pay a bit of a price. We've got an honest genuine guy who cares about the club and is prepared to put his hand in his pocket. We should all be grateful for that. But those qualities don't win you trophies.

I think he likes working with NC cos NC is honest and hard working and dependable. Which won't win too many trophies but keeps things stable. Sadler can't change things every time the fans get pissed off though, can he? It's a very tough gig running a football club, and he craves stability and straight forward people around him first and foremost. Predictable behaviour, predictable budgets, patience with results. You can't always get what you want.
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He only said what he wanted the supporters to hear.
 
voyeur said:
Sadler came over a bit nervy I thought, a bit unsure, a bit wary. Bashful maybe. Uncomfortable.

Strikes me as a genuine guy though, I think we actually are lucky to have him when you consider how the game is. But his football instincts aren't great, so we pay a bit of a price. We've got an honest genuine guy who cares about the club and is prepared to put his hand in his pocket. We should all be grateful for that. But those qualities don't win you trophies.

I think he likes working with NC cos NC is honest and hard working and dependable. Which won't win too many trophies but keeps things stable. Sadler can't change things every time the fans get pissed off though, can he? It's a very tough gig running a football club, and he craves stability and straight forward people around him first and foremost. Predictable behaviour, predictable budgets, patience with results. You can't always get what you want.
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So really he’s just a bit boring? As I’ve said before it’s great he has invested his own wealth into the club but he must have known this when he bought it and that it would cost him, all football club owners know that, apart from the vermin when they were. For me he lacks any joie de vivre and he seems to like those sort of people around him.
 
voyeur said:
Sadler came over a bit nervy I thought, a bit unsure, a bit wary. Bashful maybe. Uncomfortable.

Strikes me as a genuine guy though, I think we actually are lucky to have him when you consider how the game is. But his football instincts aren't great, so we pay a bit of a price. We've got an honest genuine guy who cares about the club and is prepared to put his hand in his pocket. We should all be grateful for that. But those qualities don't win you trophies.

I think he likes working with NC cos NC is honest and hard working and dependable. Which won't win too many trophies but keeps things stable. Sadler can't change things every time the fans get pissed off though, can he? It's a very tough gig running a football club, and he craves stability and straight forward people around him first and foremost. Predictable behaviour, predictable budgets, patience with results. You can't always get what you want.
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I get the impression that those who listened to audio only might have received the interview better than those who watched the video.
 
Arriedirk said:
Pity the club don’t concentrate on filling the ground first .
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Yeah that would be good, good positive effective football at a price that resonates to the area, with some deals thrown in will do that. If you want to grow the fanbase you have to make effort, not exatly the same but...a bit like if you want to shift more products in a shop, price cuts, advertising, promotions etc.

If we are then capable of winning away and actually going for promotion then the crowds would come.

Right now we have a Jekyll and Hyde side who aren't playing great football, price is OK at best, don't look capable of going up or don't even look like were building towards something, with a manager many didn't want back but tbf have been pretty patient with, but is failing to lay down any sort of long term style that even if we did go up, would give me any sort of confidence of staying there.
 
I've also got to say NC failed after leaving us and did he come back the same? Were his assistants vital in some of the success SS attributes to him, although obviously he was responsible for some.
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I don't think he's the same manager. I don't remember ever questioning his tactics in League One/Championship but I think he had better players and at the moment he is still playing like he's in the Prem and not League One. Over-thinking and giving way too much credit to the opposition. I also believe this squad is the weakest since McDonald was in charge (at least when Bowyer was here he had Potts, Cullen, Aldred etc).
If we could I would genuinely lose the entire squad and start again.
 
hertfordseasider said:
So really he’s just a bit boring? As I’ve said before it’s great he has invested his own wealth into the club but he must have known this when he bought it and that it would cost him, all football club owners know that, apart from the vermin when they were. For me he lacks any joie de vivre and he seems to like those sort of people around him.
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Boring?......Did you not see that cream zip up jumper....It's bloody ribbed....The man's oozing charm and sophistication....I bet he's never been in Sport Direct to buy a pair of Reebok trainers.
No Joie De Vivre?....The mans rocking a baby blue shirt with a cashmere jumper....GQ OG...
No sign of 'Blue Harbor' or Pep & Co chino/jumper combo for Simon

Come on, spill the beans.....What's the real reason for your non stop knocking?
Did he bully you at school....did he shag a member of the family.....Were all friends on here, you can tell us, I promise not to laugh.


*FOOTBALL BIT FOR YOU*
Yesterday was a game of 2 halves and at the end of the day, it was a mistake that cost us the game. We have a good squad on paper and we need to take it one game at a time. they gave it 110% but Goals win games. The lads did fantastically well but this morning I'm as sick as a parrot.
 
berthalovelybertha said:
Did he say "I'm sacking Critchley in the morning"?
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no it was a recording before the bolton game.He more or less said critchleys job was safe.He will come up with something,so to boost next seasons ticket sales.He might have put some money into club,but not on the playing side,we must all agree on that.One of our most promising player is out on loan.Never right.
 
B_Side_The_C_Side said:
Boring?......Did you not see that cream zip up jumper....It's bloody ribbed....The man's oozing charm and sophistication....I bet he's never been in Sport Direct to buy a pair of Reebok trainers.
No Joie De Vivre?....The mans rocking a baby blue shirt with a cashmere jumper....GQ OG...
No sign of 'Blue Harbor' or Pep & Co chino/jumper combo for Simon

Come on, spill the beans.....What's the real reason for your non stop knocking?
Did he bully you at school....did he shag a member of the family.....Were all friends on here, you can tell us, I promise not to laugh.


*FOOTBALL BIT FOR YOU*
Yesterday was a game of 2 halves and at the end of the day, it was a mistake that cost us the game. We have a good squad on paper and we need to take it one game at a time. they gave it 110% but Goals win games. The lads did fantastically well but this morning I'm as sick as a parrot.
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First bit up until spill the beans, very funny, good reply although I bet he puts his sweater over his shoulders German style, middle bit you let yourself down again and I'll tell you why, it is because he has done an interview, which is good, and I have said consistently he has made great strides in improving our football club after the vermin and he has ploughed his own money in and I think that's great and what we needed. My real gripe is his failure to pick a decent manager, apart from Critchley 1 (who had an experienced assistant by his side) they have been really uninspired choices so when the jury is out on Critchley, as it is, then I think it was inadvisable to pledge his allegiance to him for at least another 18 months and then we lose again like we did last night. I don't think Sadler is the sort of person to take on an Olliie style manager, he likes safe and compliant, which means we may well be in for another 18 months of Critchball but I think he has to be honest enough to look at the situation at the end of the season, we are only a couple more bad results from the crowd turning on Critchley at home and if that happens, where does he go then,

As for the football, it was even first half but we were awful second half and that has been consistent away from home all season and if you listen to his post match interview it lets ou know where his weaknesses are.

Oh, and he spilt my pint, no one does that and gets away with it, never forget!
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
I’ve nothing against SS and I don’t ever compare to the past owners. I want the penny to drop and for SS to understand the threat we face if we carry on as we are. Next season will be harder and before you know it, our vision is to be a solid L1 team. Eventually that approach takes your towards the bottom end of L1, and we’ve been there and we know what happens.

Honestly, I’m fed up about hearing how much money he’s put in. It was a business decision and football clubs cost a lot to run. What I keep in mind is that since he took over, fans from a very a deprived area have put their support & money behind him. In my 40 years as a fan, I’ve never witnessed such understanding and patience in the ground. Yet, it seems fans are being cast as the villains.

Rather than constantly justifying actions, it’s time to focus on what really matters in a football club, the on-pitch performances. Simon has funded the squad well for L1 and he will not see the benefit from that with NC in charge.
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I would also add to that, he didn’t mention the loyalty of fans who bought season tickets with no chance of being allowed in the ground. Nor leaving ST money in the club the following season. I understand that in the great scheme of things, it’s a drop in the ocean. But to many fans it’s a major investment and money that, unlike SS they are never going to get back. A little show of appreciation wouldn’t have gone amiss and may have made some fans think their contribution hasn’t been forgotten.
 
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I would also add to that, he didn’t mention the loyalty of fans who bought season tickets with no chance of being allowed in the ground. Nor leaving ST money in the club the following season. I understand that in the great scheme of things, it’s a drop in the ocean. But to many fans it’s a major investment and money that, unlike SS they are never going to get back. A little show of appreciation wouldn’t have gone amiss and may have made some fans think their contribution hasn’t been forgotten.
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Tbf those fans have been thanked before and received some benefit, so if they don't get brought up every time then is not a huge issue.
 
JJpool said:
Tbf those fans have been thanked before and received some benefit, so if they don't get brought up every time then is not a huge issue.
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I appreciate what you’re saying and I mostly agree. But the question was specifically asked about finances during Covid, so I just think a quick sentence of appreciation wouldn’t hurt.
 
Decent interview that and you can't help but feel the love he has for the club and if you're reading Simon I don't think there is anyone on this site apart from maybe 1 or 2 who think you should be putting more money in or doing more for the club. The only thing that is a moot point is the choice of manager, but then again that's not easy for any football club outside the EPL.
 
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It's more how it's spent that what gets spent. What we actually get out of it.

On either side of the fence everyone knows football clubs aren't free, clubs our size can't do all the things they'd like to and if you're going to own and run one of them as a going concern then it looks like it probably works better as part of a wider business benefit, if you've got to 'lose' x amount a year somewhere etc. But the seemingly endless management exec salary staff churn so far and running two squads of players, most of which don't see the light of day and then some have to be paid off early doesn't look too savvy to me by continuing down the same path if it's proving an expensive outlay and not really working out. We're not Chelsea. How much is it going to cost to have the two U21 lads signed on deadline day hanging about in tracksuits for the duration if it turns out they're the latest who can't get anywhere near the first team for example.
 
poolfc said:
It's more how it's spent that what gets spent. What we actually get out of it.

On either side of the fence everyone knows football clubs aren't free, clubs our size can't do all the things they'd like to and if you're going to own and run one of them as a going concern then it looks like it probably works better as part of a wider business benefit, if you've got to 'lose' x amount a year somewhere etc. But the seemingly endless management exec salary staff churn so far and running two squads of players, most of which don't see the light of day and then some have to be paid off early doesn't look too savvy to me by continuing down the same path if it's proving an expensive outlay and not really working out. We're not Chelsea. How much is it going to cost to have the two U21 lads signed on deadline day hanging about in tracksuits for the duration if it turns out they're the latest who can't get anywhere near the first team for example.
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It does seem a bit muddled so far. A kind of player development wishful thinking maybe. I think SS said last night that the training ground progress is well behind that of the east stand? Should we not wait til we have a training ground before we try to create a development programme of the scale SS seems to want? Why sign a load of lads to loan out to non league? Maybe it is working, I dunno? The shunning of Apter suggests there's a disconnect though. Will a cat 2 academy even do us any good? Colchester has one and they are in L2 and don't seem to make lucrative sales of young players?! Is it cos the best young players are all just hoovered up by the big clubs?

I don't know the answers, but neither do I hear the club talking about its rationale for what it is doing, not doing, or wants to do. Was there a hint of wisdom in Karl's approach? We had youth teams. We produced a few players, like Barkhuizen and Bright-Samuel. Sinclair even, before Karl. But we also grabbed players that were released from big academies, just as we have since, with the likes of Bowler and Connolly. Is SS getting value for money with the way he runs the club? Maybe he is, but we aren't much better on the pitch right now than we were under KO in spite of much greater expenditure. Maybe that's cos the clubs above us are just spending more? Or we are not getting the most from the players we have?
 
Sadler is more interested in what analytical reports tell him about employing a new manager than going with your gut feeling after meeting any new candidate. It may work in the world of finance but it's a load of old bollocks in football
 
voyeur said:
It does seem a bit muddled so far. A kind of player development wishful thinking maybe. I think SS said last night that the training ground progress is well behind that of the east stand? Should we not wait til we have a training ground before we try to create a development programme of the scale SS seems to want? Why sign a load of lads to loan out to non league? Maybe it is working, I dunno? The shunning of Apter suggests there's a disconnect though. Will a cat 2 academy even do us any good? Colchester has one and they are in L2 and don't seem to make lucrative sales of young players?! Is it cos the best young players are all just hoovered up by the big clubs?

I don't know the answers, but neither do I hear the club talking about its rationale for what it is doing, not doing, or wants to do. Was there a hint of wisdom in Karl's approach? We had youth teams. We produced a few players, like Barkhuizen and Bright-Samuel. Sinclair even, before Karl. But we also grabbed players that were released from big academies, just as we have since, with the likes of Bowler and Connolly. Is SS getting value for money with the way he runs the club? Maybe he is, but we aren't much better on the pitch right now than we were under KO in spite of much greater expenditure. Maybe that's cos the clubs above us are just spending more? Or we are not getting the most from the players we have?
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You've still got to get the conveyor belt moving, not say let's wait until we get the TG then properly start, as it'll take years before anything comes ou the other side most likely.

Loans to real men's football is one of the best ways to advance a player far quicker than youth games.
 
JJpool said:
You've still got to get the conveyor belt moving, not say let's wait until we get the TG then properly start, as it'll take years before anything comes ou the other side most likely.

Loans to real men's football is one of the best ways to advance a player far quicker than youth games.
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Quite possibly. It just has a haphazard feel to it, and zero end product thus far. Nearly five years in. The conveyor belt feels a bit vintage Soviet Union.

What's as big as a house, burns 20 litres of fuel every hour, puts out a shit ton of smoke and noise, and cuts an apple into 3 pieces?
The Soviet machine made to cut apples into 4 pieces.
 
voyeur said:
Quite possibly. It just has a haphazard feel to it, and zero end product thus far. Nearly five years in. The conveyor belt feels a bit vintage Soviet Union.

What's as big as a house, burns 20 litres of fuel every hour, puts out a shit ton of smoke and noise, and cuts an apple into 3 pieces?
The Soviet machine made to cut apples into 4 pieces.
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It takes a while and we have Apter on the verge, shining in league 2.

It's ramped up over the years too, as we've vastly improved the staff etc and probably will bring in better youngsters now.

I feel like were not far off seeing the first real development ans then some after that.
 
Great person. Type of person who I'd been seen out and about with in Lytham.

Sadler knows he will end up sacking Critchley but has to go through the motions this season.
 
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Great person. Type of person who I'd been seen out and about with in Lytham.

Sadler knows he will end up sacking Critchley but has to go through the motions this season.
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No he doesn’t want to know that. He’s just publicly backed his manager if not this season then next season for promotion. The problem is why would next season be any better? Critchley has had one primary problem all season. How do we win away from home and he’s shown the limitations of his abilities by keep playing a round shape trying to fit a square hole, Doesn’t work and just like a baby he should have figured out by trial and error a better way. He hasn’t and he’s eroded confidence by constantly making needless changes and playing players out of position and in a formation they are not suited for and easily neutralized by the opposition.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
I’ve nothing against SS and I don’t ever compare to the past owners. I want the penny to drop and for SS to understand the threat we face if we carry on as we are. Next season will be harder and before you know it, our vision is to be a solid L1 team. Eventually that approach takes your towards the bottom end of L1, and we’ve been there and we know what happens.

Honestly, I’m fed up about hearing how much money he’s put in. It was a business decision and football clubs cost a lot to run. What I keep in mind is that since he took over, fans from a very a deprived area have put their support & money behind him. In my 40 years as a fan, I’ve never witnessed such understanding and patience in the ground. Yet, it seems fans are being cast as the villains.

Rather than constantly justifying actions, it’s time to focus on what really matters in a football club, the on-pitch performances. Simon has funded the squad well for L1 and he will not see the benefit from that with NC in charge.
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He was asked the question re how much money he was putting in. What do you want him to say, ‘not telling you’!! People would then start complaining about the lack of transparency!
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
I’ve nothing against SS and I don’t ever compare to the past owners. I want the penny to drop and for SS to understand the threat we face if we carry on as we are. Next season will be harder and before you know it, our vision is to be a solid L1 team. Eventually that approach takes your towards the bottom end of L1, and we’ve been there and we know what happens.

Honestly, I’m fed up about hearing how much money he’s put in. It was a business decision and football clubs cost a lot to run. What I keep in mind is that since he took over, fans from a very a deprived area have put their support & money behind him. In my 40 years as a fan, I’ve never witnessed such understanding and patience in the ground. Yet, it seems fans are being cast as the villains.

Rather than constantly justifying actions, it’s time to focus on what really matters in a football club, the on-pitch performances. Simon has funded the squad well for L1 and he will not see the benefit from that with NC in charge.
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He gets criticised for not investing . He’s responding.

When people stop questioning the investment he might stop telling you about the fact it’s costing him 4-5 million a year.

Where's the Critchley Bowler Yates money ?

In the black hole that’s where.

He’s a Blackpool fan investing millions whereas most of us are putting in hundreds at best .
 
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SomersetSeasider said:
He was asked the question re how much money he was putting in. What do you want him to say, ‘not telling you’!! People would then start complaining about the lack of transparency!
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He was asked the question you’re right. It wasn’t the best interview from Bayes in many way and some of his questions were unusually poor.

‘Commitment’ is all too often defined in term
of Financial Input when it comes to football ownership, which is a real shame, because it detracts from the important stuff.

Football can easily swallow up cash and plenty of it, with very little to show for it. What really moves a football club forward, like any other business are things like the energy, enthusiasm, passion, dedication, charisma and expertise of those who are running the show…
 
AngelBFC said:
He gets criticised for not investing . He’s responding.

When people stop questioning the investment he might stop telling you about the fact it’s costing him 4-5 million a year.

Where's the Critchley Bowler Yates money ?

In the black hole that’s where.

He’s a Blackpool fan investing millions whereas most of us are putting in hundreds at best .
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The criticism is mainly about his choice of managers. The current angst for most fans is Critchley, not what SS has invested. It is widely acknowledged by fans that the playing budget is competitive. Bottom line, in order to fund infrastructure, we need on-pitch success to generate consistent revenue through gate receipts.

I’ve no problem with SS and what he’s invested. I do want him to realise that we are heading in the wrong direction on-field.

Where you say fans just contribute hundreds, that’s not correct, as you are looking at one season in isolation. Fans support the club over a lifetime, so you need to consider time value money. It’s many thousands of pounds, then you have to consider the fans financial situation to understand the commitment made.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
He was asked the question you’re right. It wasn’t the best interview from Bayes in many way and some of his questions were unusually poor.

‘Commitment’ is all too often defined in term
of Financial Input when it comes to football ownership, which is a real shame, because it detracts from the important stuff.

Football can easily swallow up cash and plenty of it, with very little to show for it. What really moves a football club forward, like any other business are things like the energy, enthusiasm, passion, dedication, charisma and expertise of those who are running the show…
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Truthfully, I think Andy Bayes was handling with care.
 
SomersetSeasider said:
He was asked the question re how much money he was putting in. What do you want him to say, ‘not telling you’!! People would then start complaining about the lack of transparency!
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Like I said, he needs to focus on what is the key issue for the club at present. The issue is the manager, where he is taking us and the impact on the investment by SS. Success on the field will generate revenue and in time, reduce our need for SS to invest as much of his own cash.

It’s accepted that investment has been made and that the playing budget is competitive.

We have one problem, it needs addressing.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
The criticism is mainly about his choice of managers. The current angst for most fans is Critchley, not what SS has invested. It is widely acknowledged by fans that the playing budget is competitive. Bottom line, in order to fund infrastructure, we need on-pitch success to generate consistent revenue through gate receipts.

I’ve no problem with SS and what he’s invested. I do want him to realise that we are heading in the wrong direction on-field.

Where you say fans just contribute hundreds, that’s not correct, as you are looking at one season in isolation. Fans support the club over a lifetime, so you need to consider time value money. It’s many thousands of pounds, then you have to consider the fans financial situation to understand the commitment made.
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Most fans? Or where fans have an angst it is mainly Critchley?
 
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