Scraping the bottom of the barrel, Liz Truss

ElBurroSinNombre

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Is this the best that we can do?
Purile, meaningless soundbites from a politician who will seemingly support any position to further her career.
I can only hope she doesn't do too much damage before she is removed. I wouldn't be surprised to see Johnson trying to become leader again after a disastrous few months under Truss, 'the human hand grenade'

God help us
 
I can't believe anyone will think she will be any different. Not even in power but lying straight to our faces even when the evidence is literally written down. Trashing her parents: trashing her education: trashing previously held beliefs and trashing the government she's been a major part of. If only the opposition had someone with a bit of mettle
"Meet the new boss: same as the old boss".
 
Surely if she's a useless whopper you would think the Left would be excited by this potential appointment, surely a walk in the park for Keith in 18 month's or so. Why the froth ?
 
Surely if she's a useless whopper you would think the Left would be excited by this potential appointment, surely a walk in the park for Keith in 18 month's or so. Why the froth ?
Who has been frothing? I’ve only seen a couple of piss taking comments.
 
Who has been frothing? I’ve only seen a couple of piss taking comments.
You clearly read some of the replies different to how i do, trust me I'm usually toe to toe with some of these [posters on here, there's froth.
 
Surely if she's a useless whopper you would think the Left would be excited by this potential appointment, surely a walk in the park for Keith in 18 month's or so. Why the froth ?
Bonkers isn't it.
Ollygon is already amassing notes to move on from Boris Bashing to his Daily Truss Trashing.😂
 
Let's face it. Some on here condemn the Tory leader regardless of who it is. One of these two will govern the country for at least a couple of years. Drop your prejudices and judge them on how well they run the country not the fact that they're Tories.
You could put God in as leader of the Tory Party and they'd still find something to criticise.
One dimensional, pig headed individuals who can't accept any other view but their own.
And they see anyone who isn't left wing as Nazi/Bigot/Racist/Sexist etc etc

The amusing thing will be if/when Labour get in to power and inevitably make mistakes, as everyone does.
It'll be so funny watching them all desperately trying to defend them
 
It's not frothing
So far from Truss we have had;
A promise of an unfunded tax cut. Our children will be paying for it throughout their working lives.
A promise to ignore the elected leader of the Scottish government - a gift to the SNP
A policy proposal designed to suck money from poorer areas of the country by lowering the pay of public sector workers. A quick u-turn and a barefaced, provable lie in trying to deflect blame
And today, we have the message in the O/P. A vacuous appeal to the patriotic instinct aimed at the lowest common denominator. How will Liz make things better?
So far every suggestion that she has made would make things worse.
For the Trussites now accusing others of frothing, please explain how she would make things better for the UK given the statements she has made. Nothing she says seems to have been thought through, the goal for her, like Johnson, is only to be PM. And she will say almost anything to achieve it.
 
Surely if she's a useless whopper you would think the Left would be excited by this potential appointment, surely a walk in the park for Keith in 18 month's or so. Why the froth ?
Keith? Actually I quite like it - seems nondescript enough.

* No Keiths we’re harmed in the production of this post.
* sorry Keith 🤣
 
You could put God in as leader of the Tory Party and they'd still find something to criticise.
One dimensional, pig headed individuals who can't accept any other view but their own.
And they see anyone who isn't left wing as Nazi/Bigot/Racist/Sexist etc etc

The amusing thing will be if/when Labour get in to power and inevitably make mistakes, as everyone does.
It'll be so funny watching them all desperately trying to defend them
The remoaning left wing Pimmelkopfs are just a load of EU flag shaggers.🇬🇧😜
 

Is this the best that we can do?
Purile, meaningless soundbites from a politician who will seemingly support any position to further her career.
I can only hope she doesn't do too much damage before she is removed. I wouldn't be surprised to see Johnson trying to become leader again after a disastrous few months under Truss, 'the human hand grenade'

God help us
Your name is Pedro. Try to remember that.😜🤣
 
Because it's not a game, they'll be responsible for huge decisions effecting the country.
She is a useless whopper - which makes Dishy Rishi an incompetent quarter pounder?

Analogy stretched beyond breaking point??

Either way I think the conservatives will be fried at the next election.

Ok - I’m bored waiting for our Gooner Junior to complete his medical and trip to the Beach before he heads off back South again……

….joking! I’m joking!
 
Because it's not a game, they'll be responsible for huge decisions effecting the country.
And you will get your chance to change it in 18 months, it would make absolutely no difference who gets the top job you would all be on here frothing and trashing them anyway. Just make sure your all together next time and spend less time sneering at the opposition and more time putting an X in the box that suits.
 
And you will get your chance to change it in 18 months, it would make absolutely no difference who gets the top job you would all be on here frothing and trashing them anyway. Just make sure your all together next time and spend less time sneering at the opposition and more time putting an X in the box that suits.
None of that makes any sense.
 
Why does it have to be team Left or team Right? If Starmer had been in power and behaved the same as Johnson, I’d have said exactly the same thing. The fact of the matter is, quality mp’s are very, very thin on the ground, something highlighted by the last 4 Prime ministers, and the fact Labour have had many shooting fish in a barrel moments but haven’t capitalised.
Anyone crowing about the Tories right now really need to gain a bit of perspective instead of it being black and white, blue or red.
 
It does, you have just decided you didn’t like the reply.
No, it didn't, it was us and them bollocks again.

You seem to assume that because I think the line of PMs in recent years have been self serving, incompetent wankers that it means I automatically want to vote Labour, which under Starmer I won't.
 
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I believe Cameron was voted in by the populous, albeit he had a coalition government. The same couldn't be said for Gordon Brown who like Boris and May was voted in by the Party.

Bendit

I know you were only responding to somebody else and not suggesting otherwise but surely at General Elections, you can only vote for those who stand in your consistency and should your preferred candidate happen to belong to the party that gains a majority, that party will decide who should lead that party and the country.

Why are some folk suddenly concerned about a party changing its leader and raising questions about democracy ?
 
Bendit

I know you were only responding to somebody else and not suggesting otherwise but surely at General Elections, you can only vote for those who stand in your consistency and should your preferred candidate happen to belong to the party that gains a majority, that party will decide who should lead that party and the country.

Why are some folk suddenly concerned about a party changing its leader and raising questions about democracy ?
Perhaps because the two vying for the position were complicit in the cabinet of one of the worst PM’s the country has seen?
 
Bendit

I know you were only responding to somebody else and not suggesting otherwise but surely at General Elections, you can only vote for those who stand in your consistency and should your preferred candidate happen to belong to the party that gains a majority, that party will decide who should lead that party and the country.

Why are some folk suddenly concerned about a party changing its leader and raising questions about democracy ?
Because it's the third time in six years and that leader just so happens to become PM?
 
Perhaps because the two vying for the position were complicit in the cabinet of one of the worst PM’s the country has seen?

Junior

That may or not be true, my question was more around democracy than your views on the performance of the Government.

I'm not sure the process should be changed because of your opinions on their performance ?
 
Because it's the third time in six years and that leader just so happens to become PM?

Lytham

Very much along the lines of what I said to Junior, you appear critical of the Government as you are perfectly entitled to be but I'm not sure the process should change around your views of the performance of the Government ?
 
Lytham

Very much along the lines of what I said to Junior, you appear critical of the Government as you are perfectly entitled to be but I'm not sure the process should change around your views of the performance of the Government ?
But it's no good for the country or policy, less than a full term on average before they're replaced for being shit.

Do you honestly believe Truss is a viable candidate for a successful long term Premiership? She might win a snap election because a) Starmer is useless and b) it's FAR easier for a sitting PM to win but what actual qualities does she bring to the role? She's already been caught out lying and she's not even PM yet.
 
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If more people were actually members of political parties a. They could vote to change the rules in their party to reflect their wish to call a GE following dismissal/loss of leader and b. Politics would be more representative than the Westminster bubble or Home Counties twin-set and pearls brigade (and I am including the men in that).

No way on earth any party with a parliamentary majority is calling an election when the leader has just gone, as that usually coincides with the party being low in the opinion/popularity polls (maybe with the unfortunate exception of one dying in office - coz they is all cynical innit - ALL of them).

Maybe we get the politics and politicians we deserve by not being more engaged?

Just a thought.
 
But it's no good for the country or policy, less than a full term on average before they're replaced for being shit.

Do you honestly believe Truss is a viable candidate for a successful long term Premiership? She might win a snap election because a) Starmer is useless and b) it's FAR easier for a sitting PM to win but what actual qualities does she bring to the role? She's already been caught out lying and she's not even PM yet.

Lytham

I wouldn't be a fan of Truss but that wasn't my issue.

I was just wondering why folk were questioning our democracy because of change(s) in leadership ?

I agree with some of the points you make - although I think you overrate Starmer - but I'm wondering what it is you are looking for:


Boris to have cracked on ?

A General Election because of your perceptions of Boris's Premiership ?

I'm going away from my point now, I'm just struggling to understand why some think that a change in PM is not democratic when the party concerned has a majority in the House.
 
You could put God in as leader of the Tory Party and they'd still find something to criticise.
One dimensional, pig headed individuals who can't accept any other view but their own.
And they see anyone who isn't left wing as Nazi/Bigot/Racist/Sexist etc etc

The amusing thing will be if/when Labour get in to power and inevitably make mistakes, as everyone does.
It'll be so funny watching them all desperately trying to defend them
God doesn’t exist but would still be better than Truss.
 
So far every suggestion that she has made would make things worse. Nothing she says seems to have been thought through, the goal for her, like Johnson, is only to be PM. And she will say almost anything to achieve it.

So many experts capable of running the country. A bit like my Mrs sitting in the back seat telling me how to drive. 😆
 
No, it didn't, it was us and them bollocks again.

You seem to assume that because I think the line of PMs in recent years have been self serving, incompetent wankers that it means I automatically want to vote Labour, which under Starmer I won't.
I thought the thread was about Truss being bottom of the barrel. I am right in so much as you didn’t like my reply, you felt the need to defend your post, and secondly there’s not a single Tory anywhere in Westminster you would want in power, ever, and not just for the next 18 months. As for not voting for Keith I respect your honesty.
 
Let's face it. Some on here condemn the Tory leader regardless of who it is. One of these two will govern the country for at least a couple of years. Drop your prejudices and judge them on how well they run the country not the fact that they're Tories.
You genuinely think she has the capability to manage the country?

She can't manage to throw out a soundbite without withdrawing it two hours later while denying it.

Strategy is completely beyond her capabilities.
 
Let's face it. Some on here condemn the Tory leader regardless of who it is. One of these two will govern the country for at least a couple of years. Drop your prejudices and judge them on how well they run the country not the fact that they're Tories.
TTJ, would you expect anything else from some of the D@Gers on this for
Amazing how she is touted as unable to do the job when no-one really knows what she is or isn’t capable of.
Also true is that whoever was in the running for the job (Tory or Labour) they would all get grief
 
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