“Prince” Harry again

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Matesrates

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Having another public go at his family, now blaming the way his father was brought up for the way he treated him. Says when you’re born into it, you inherit the risk, you inherit every element of it. Yes Harry, including the privilege and the money.

The titles prince and duchess should be removed.
 
It’s all going to his head this freedom and celebrity malarkey. It will also lose its shine fairly quickly when the media circus moves on. The general rule of thumb is stuff like this is viewed negatively by the British public and positively by the Americans. This will all be brand building for their target audience who love a bit of victim hood/your truth sharing to chatter about.
Charles must have had a gut full by now and he’s going to be King soon enough. No way back for Ginge and Whinge.
 
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Harry hopes to break the cycle of royal 'pain and suffering' as he compares royal life to mix of 'The Truman Show and being in a zoo'

Speaking on the podcast Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard, Harry says he wanted to "break the cycle" of "pain and suffering".
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Meanwhile in the world someone has an actual real problem that they aren’t getting paid thousands to moan about publicly.
Anyway, nice to to see they are keeping themselves out of the media limelight, which lets face it , caused him a whole load of ‘genetic pain.’
Good grief Harry get a bloody grip.
 
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I just don’t get it. What on earth did they get out of the Oprah interview most of what they said and he repeated it today about bike rides and they are pics of him on the back with mum and dad🤷🏽‍♂️ It’s so stupid to cut down your options as if Megan desides he is no more use to her it’s difficult for him to come back to the UK. As a dad and grandad I would be so upset if my son and grandson rubbish me in the National media
 
Leither said:
Not sure why all the hatred towards Harry . . . always been my favourite Royal.

To be fair there's not much competition.

Why not vent your hatred against a real wrong 'un like Andrew . . if anyone should be stripped of any title it's him.
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Hate is a very popular term these days. Me, I used to like Harry, but not now, I certainly don't hate him. As soon as they announced the engagement I said a Yank would be trouble, at one point I thought I was being proved wrong, not so, eh. like I say, a growing dislike, certainly not hate.
 
In essence he is echoing Larkin:

"They f**k you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had,
And add some extra just for you."

And he has the added complication of the pressure brought about by being Royalty.

Looks to me like he is trying to break the cycle for his children and trying to find a meaningful life instead of being `the Royal spare`.

Yet some parts of the media are keen for us to hate him (and his wife).

Makes me wonder why...
 
spudgun said:
Looks to me like he is trying to break the cycle for his children and trying to find a meaningful life instead of being `the Royal spare`.

Yet some parts of the media are keen for us to hate him (and his wife).

Makes me wonder why...
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A "meaningful life" that means doing interviews like this and disrespecting not only your family but the monarchy as well. If he wants a meaningful life away from the royal family then he needs to stop putting himself and his media attention seeking wife in the spotlight. Because doing interviews like this certainly won't do his cause any good. Maybe you could wonder why that is!
 
spudgun said:
In essence he is echoing Larkin:

"They f**k you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had,
And add some extra just for you."

And he has the added complication of the pressure brought about by being Royalty.

Looks to me like he is trying to break the cycle for his children and trying to find a meaningful life instead of being `the Royal spare`.

Yet some parts of the media are keen for us to hate him (and his wife).

Makes me wonder why...
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I think the country (or part of it anyway) is just feeling a bit insecure and lacking in confidence at the moment, so is lashing out at anything it perceives as criticism.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
But I don’t think it’s the lefties who have the vapours every time Harry pops up on TV?
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mmm... not sure any part of your post mentions Harry. Your words were " the country ". And boy oh boy do you lefties "have the vapours" every time the PM appears. Like I said, "chin up".
 
I'm not sure he knows what a "meaningful life" is. His surviving parent has spent decades waiting for his Mum to die, and still has a flunky to put toothpaste on his brush. The whole family are an anachronism (sp?).

I agree that he should say much less, and I think he is very badly advised (not necessarily by his wife btw). He comes across as whiney and not very bright. Just like the Prince of Wales, really.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
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Prince Harry appears to criticise way he was raised by his father

Duke of Sussex also speaks of ‘genetic pain and suffering’ in royal family in new interview in US
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If you read what he says it doesn’t seem unreasonable to me.
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NO DON'T READ IT HE'S A TRAITOR JUST BECAUSE HIS MUM WAS HOUNDED TO HER DEATH AND HE SAW THE SAME THING HAPPENING WITH HIS WIFE DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING PUBLICITY WOKEY WOKE COMMIE TRAITOR THAT NICE KATE IS MILES BETTER PROPER ENGLISH AND DOESN'T GET ALL SPEAKY SHE KNOWS HER PLACE GAWD SAVE WILLIAM.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
NO DON'T READ IT HE'S A TRAITOR JUST BECAUSE HIS MUM WAS HOUNDED TO HER DEATH AND HE SAW THE SAME THING HAPPENING WITH HIS WIFE DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING PUBLICITY WOKEY WOKE COMMIE TRAITOR THAT NICE KATE IS MILES BETTER PROPER ENGLISH AND DOESN'T GET ALL SPEAKY SHE KNOWS HER PLACE GAWD SAVE WILLIAM.
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You spaced out again FY8?.
 
It's not a choice between duty and personal life. Unfortunately for Harry he was born into a life of duty. Some people are born into a life of millionaire ease, others into a life of mundacity and others into a life deprivation.
I think he needs help and guidance to deal with what he must but dealing with it should not be an option for him.
 
Poor chap, I feel sorry for him. He’s a bit thick and Meghan has sent him to see a trendy Californian psychotherapist for a long course. Now he is regurgitating ridiculous new age psychobabble theories that he has been brainwashed with, such as the “cycle of genetic pain”. If you read his interview he trots out one psychotherapy cliché after another.

It’s not genetic, it’s how he was nurtured and brought up. His father was treated badly by absentee parents and bullied at boarding school so he’s emotionally damaged, and then the one caring parent Harry had was killed when he was 12, leaving a great hole in his development. It’s nurture not nature that’s responsible for his mental state, i.e. it’s not genetics.

And once he left the Army he seems to have no purpose in his life. But I am not sure that cutting himself off from his entire wider family and isolating his immediate family in California will be the solution to his problems, especially if he wants to use the media to publicly lay into the RF every couple of months.
 
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coppiceman said:
I'm not sure he knows what a "meaningful life" is. His surviving parent has spent decades waiting for his Mum to die, and still has a flunky to put toothpaste on his brush. The whole family are an anachronism (sp?).

I agree that he should say much less, and I think he is very badly advised (not necessarily by his wife btw). He comes across as whiney and not very bright. Just like the Prince of Wales, really.
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No sure if Megan or Harry have been badly advised or just don’t listen to advice. Thinking about Diana Charles and Andrew interviews surely somebody said they all went badly so avoid going public it won’t go well 🤷🏽‍♂️
 
Who gives a fuck. It's just celebrity gossip and talk. I skimmed what he said, it seems fair enough.

The royals are caged for the countries edification. I actually feel a degree of sympathy for them.

It seems that the royalists expect them to be born and then live a live of servile duty thereafter, fulfilling a role they never asked for.

Which to me, seems a bit, I dunno, inhumane. You get gilded palaces and stuff, but your life is mapped out from birth. I don't live in a gilded palace but at least I have (the illusion?) of free will.
 
Harry is a decent man, I believe. He had a trauma when he was young and grew up in a God awful family. He did his military duty in Afghanistan then used his influence to set up the Invictus Games. He was also a solid supporter of his brother during their early adult days. So, those are his credits. As I've said above, he was born into a life of service and that's what he needs to continue with. Unfortunately, I don't think 'the firm' are any good at dealing with that sort of thing. I think that all the generations above William & Harry (Edward possibly excepted) are emotionally hopeless.
 
Prince William is not immune to the mental troubles that Harry faces either, due to their upbringing. It’s said he has a ferocious temper that is easily triggered, that developed when dealing with all his mother’s publicity in the 90s. But he has a purpose in his life, being on show in the “zoo”, and he has a wife who is a strong tempering influence.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Harry is a decent man, I believe. He had a trauma when he was young and grew up in a God awful family. He did his military duty in Afghanistan then used his influence to set up the Invictus Games. He was also a solid supporter of his brother during their early adult days. So, those are his credits. As I've said above, he was born into a life of service and that's what he needs to continue with. Unfortunately, I don't think 'the firm' are any good at dealing with that sort of thing. I think that all the generations above William & Harry (Edward possibly excepted) are emotionally hopeless.
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All that’s well and good.
So stop using the royal titles and associations to make money, lots of money, if he despises the institution so much.
 
Matesrates said:
I was born into poverty, I inherited the risk and every element of it. Think about that Harry and how you would have coped making your own way out of the mire. As someone else saId, he needs to grow a pair. Privileged pr@@@@
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Read a good book yesterday by Geoff Norcott, where did I go right. Think you might enjoy it. I read it in one sitting I was that engrossed. He was born into poverty and he grew a pair and refused to be a victim like he was taught...
 
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Meghan Markle's use of title on debut book branded 'laughable' - 'Can't have everything'

A ROYAL AUTHOR has branded the use of Meghan Markle's title on the front cover of her new book "laughable".
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It’s a joke. The establishment they profess to detest and has damaged them both so much is still good enough to make thousands if not millions off the back of.
If they are so concerned in speaking their truth they need to fess up publicly to being a pair of hypocrites of the highest order.
Oh, that’s not going to happen because it doesn’t fit with their one way traffic rhetoric. Pair of absolute whoppers now.
 
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1966_and_all_that said:
Harry is a decent man, I believe. He had a trauma when he was young and grew up in a God awful family. He did his military duty in Afghanistan then used his influence to set up the Invictus Games. He was also a solid supporter of his brother during their early adult days. So, those are his credits. As I've said above, he was born into a life of service and that's what he needs to continue with. Unfortunately, I don't think 'the firm' are any good at dealing with that sort of thing. I think that all the generations above William & Harry (Edward possibly excepted) are emotionally hopeless.
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I don’t think anyone would disagree with the trauma that Harry went through when he lost his mother, the vast majority of the population felt the loss too, equally his military service and his involvement with the Invictus games are unquestionable, but unfortunately his behaviour since moving to America via Canada to escape the pressure of the media (tongue in cheek) has quite frankly been utterly disgraceful. Both Harry and his look at me wife are hell bent on trying to destroy the monarchy by using the stupidity and ignorance of the American media circus.
 
Matesrates said:
I was born into poverty, I inherited the risk and every element of it. Think about that Harry and how you would have coped making your own way out of the mire. As someone else saId, he needs to grow a pair. Privileged pr@@@@
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You have a very reasonable point but I would hazard that one way or another they each have their difficulties.
 
TangerineBayern said:
I don’t think anyone would disagree with the trauma that Harry went through when he lost his mother, the vast majority of the population felt the loss too, equally his military service and his involvement with the Invictus games are unquestionable, but unfortunately his behaviour since moving to America via Canada to escape the pressure of the media (tongue in cheek) has quite frankly been utterly disgraceful. Both Harry and his look at me wife are hell bent on trying to destroy the monarchy by using the stupidity and ignorance of the American media circus.
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I don't carry a torch for Harry, just seeing it as someone concerned for an emotionally fragile man. That said, I do hope you are wrong.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
I don't carry a torch for Harry, just seeing it as someone concerned for an emotionally fragile man. That said, I do hope you are wrong.
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Not saying you are for one moment 66, but a lot of people suffer from mental health issues and seek help for it but the last thing they do is blame everyone else so very publicly especially family never mind our Royal Family. They are both creating an environment around them that serves them no good at all as it will become very toxic before they know it.
 
All I want to know is at what age do the Lizard people get their wings?
Will Harry and Megs’s kids be half Lizards as she’s not from the Aristocratic Lizard dynasty??
 
Chunkylad said:
All I want to know is at what age do the Lizard people get their wings?
Will Harry and Megs’s kids be half Lizards as she’s not from the Aristocratic Lizard dynasty??
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All I want to know is where the visceral hatred comes from.

Cos it’s not really normal.

PS And I don’t include you in that Chunky.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
All I want to know is where the visceral hatred comes from.

Cos it’s not really normal.

PS And I don’t include you in that Chunky.
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There’s that word Hatred again. Over used and totally unnecessary. It’s simply that most people are pretty grounded and find it all a total load of shite.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
All I want to know is where the visceral hatred comes from.

Cos it’s not really normal.

PS And I don’t include you in that Chunky.
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Yeah I don’t get it either Mex to be honest?

Hypocritical maybe by the young princeling (aren’t we all in many ways?) but worthy of hatred definitely not.
 
Scaramanga said:
There’s that word Hatred again. Over used and totally unnecessary. It’s simply that most people are pretty grounded and find it all a total load of shite.
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Ah sorry. My fault. Just reread all the posts on this thread and clearly they don’t qualify as more than mild criticism and deep sighs of disappointment.
 
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