“Prince” Harry again

Mexboroseasider said:
All I want to know is where the visceral hatred comes from.

Cos it’s not really normal.

PS And I don’t include you in that Chunky.
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It’s not visceral hatred.
It’s observations based on human behaviour and hypocrisy.
Why class that as hatred because you don’t agree with others observed opinions?
And by the way , the observations and opinions are only possible because the media hating couple desperate for privacy keep talking to the media desperate for publicity 🙀
 
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Lala said:
It’s not visceral hatred.
It’s observations on human behaviour and hypocrisy.
Why class that as hatred because you don’t agree with others observed opinions?
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Because you just need to read the posts on this thread.

“Observed opinions” are delivered without emotion. They are cool and considered. Objectively. Without bile and spite.

Now look at the posts on this thread and tell me, hand on heart, how many fall into that category?

Anyway here’s a question for you. When Liz finally shuffles off this mortal coil. And Charles becomes King. How many on here will want to “Do a Harry”? And say - nope; that’s enough. I’ve had enough. I’m out too.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Because you just need to read the posts on this thread.

“Observed opinions” are delivered without emotion. They are cool and considered. Objectively. Without bile and spite.

Now look at the posts on this thread and tell me, hand on heart, how many fall into that category?

Anyway here’s a question for you. When Liz finally shuffles off this mortal coil. And Charles becomes King. How many on here will want to “Do a Harry”? And say - nope; that’s enough. I’ve had enough. I’m out too.
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Nice try at deflection mex.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Because you just need to read the posts on this thread.

“Observed opinions” are delivered without emotion. They are cool and considered. Objectively. Without bile and spite.

Now look at the posts on this thread and tell me, hand on heart, how many fall into that category?

Anyway here’s a question for you. When Liz finally shuffles off this mortal coil. And Charles becomes King. How many on here will want to “Do a Harry”? And say - nope; that’s enough. I’ve had enough. I’m out too.
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Why do observed opinions have to be delivered without emotion ?
Emotion, passion, belief in your own opinions isn’t just a thing you can agree with when the opinions align with your own.
You know you have backed emotive opinions in the past. And why would you not ?
Why do you constantly invalidate the right for anyone else to have an opinion that opposes yours without trying to call them out as ‘bad.’
 
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911_Kirky said:
I wish he’d just fuck right off.... oh, hang on he has, but continues to surface every time his bank balance needs a nudge!
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I don't want to tell him to feck off, I want to feel sorry for Harry but yes, I'm not sure he's helping himself and him and his Mrs seem to want it both ways.

I'm probably agreeing with you really Kirky if I'm honest, I just don't want to tell him to feck off !!!!!!!!
 
I think it's world mental health awareness week?

Not a great fan of what Harry and Megan have done, my instinct is that they want their cake and eat it.

However, it is as plain as the nose on your face that Harry is struggling. The fact that he is loaded and has a comfortable existence is irrelevant to his mental health. His latest attack, for that is what it is, on both his and his father's upbringing does ring true. I'm sure we have all seen the film of the boy Charles greeting his mother at the station after one of her Commonwealth trips, by having his hand shaken. I have total respect for HM the Queen, but some things she and her family did were wrong, and people like Harry have to live with those consequences.

I would also expect the Palace to be the peacemakers in this situation. The thought that our next Monarch will not even speak to his own son speaks volumes for his unsuitability for the role of Head of State.
 
Of course everyone seems to be only listening to one side of the story which was printed on the front page of the Sun newspaper yesterday. It’s a good job theres a certain amount of balance being applied here. I’m also really pleased Harry’s new found peaceful life stretched to a front page article in a British Red top 😄
 
Perhaps I was being a bit harsh on PH. If he feels that psychotherapy is helping him, then it probably is. And it’s the rest of us who have the problem in not understanding. However, psychotherapists that turn sons and daughters against their parents by “stripping away the blinkers” to allow “truth” and “honesty” do not sound very responsible to me. Understanding and self realisation are good things but creating active and open conflict where there was little previously is bad.
 
Tangerinemoss said:
I think it's world mental health awareness week?

Not a great fan of what Harry and Megan have done, my instinct is that they want their cake and eat it.

However, it is as plain as the nose on your face that Harry is struggling. The fact that he is loaded and has a comfortable existence is irrelevant to his mental health. His latest attack, for that is what it is, on both his and his father's upbringing does ring true. I'm sure we have all seen the film of the boy Charles greeting his mother at the station after one of her Commonwealth trips, by having his hand shaken. I have total respect for HM the Queen, but some things she and her family did were wrong, and people like Harry have to live with those consequences.

I would also expect the Palace to be the peacemakers in this situation. The thought that our next Monarch will not even speak to his own son speaks volumes for his unsuitability for the role of Head of State.
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My father was an alcoholic, never wanted me, told me he never wanted a child, never took me anywhere, never came to watch me play sport, but I never trashed him to anyone, I accepted that he had problems in his past which caused all his behaviours. Harry, who wanted privacy, should keep his mouth shut, but imo, it’s Meghan pulling the strings.
 
Used to be everyone’s favourite Royal.
Now he’s the moaning nobhead.
And I think you will find your real Dad just fcuked off... a bit like you actually
 
Mexboroseasider said:
All I want to know is where the visceral hatred comes from.

Cos it’s not really normal.

PS And I don’t include you in that Chunky.
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Maybe it’s a result of the visceral hatred he has shown very publicly towards his own family which includes his 95 year old grandmother and recently departed 99 year old grandfather. It almost amounts to bullying as he well knows the royal family are not likely to fight back.
I think prior to all this he was actually quite popular as royals go.
I say this as someone who is quite indifferent towards the royal family but prior to all this mud slinging quite liked Harry.
 
the abuse he's dishing out to the monarchy, his parents and grandparents just makes you wonder whether he's become privileged to certain info that he didn't know about whilst he was growing up.
 
Do I recall the royal court hangers on used to refer to Kate or her Mum as "doors to manual" because she had a proper job once with an airline?

As for Harry, him and his priveleged chum blasting that Hen Harrier out of the sky near Sandringham was, and will always be, an unforgivable act of entitled barbarism. Covered up of course when he was in the gang, imagine if he'd done it now?
 
People keep saying 'his parents'.
Who do they mean. I've never been convinced that Prince Charles is his natural father.
No doubting who his mother is, but father?
He doesn't look a bit like William or other Royals.
 
20togo said:
the abuse he's dishing out to the monarchy, his parents and grandparents just makes you wonder whether he's become privileged to certain info that he didn't know about whilst he was growing up.
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What info are you alluding to? Come on, don’t be so coy.
 
Davepick said:
People keep saying 'his parents'.
Who do they mean. I've never been convinced that Prince Charles is his natural father.
No doubting who his mother is, but father?
He doesn't look a bit like William or other Royals.
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There’s no doubt to me that he is Charles’ son. The BBC recently showed a picture of Phillip with a beard and the resemblance to Harry was uncanny (possibly one reason why Harry is favoured by the Queen).

He was also born a couple of years before his mum and Hewitt were involved.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
There’s no doubt to me that he is Charles’ son. The BBC recently showed a picture of Phillip with a beard and the resemblance to Harry was uncanny (possibly one reason why Harry is favoured by the Queen).

He was also born a couple of years before his mum and Hewitt were involved.
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I agree.
Harry’s nose and mouth a resemble Prince Phillips massively.
People tend to just look at the hair colour and make a judgment, but his features are all’Windsor’ if you look closely.
William is much more like his late mum:
 
Archibald Knox said:
Prince William is not immune to the mental troubles that Harry faces either, due to their upbringing. It’s said he has a ferocious temper that is easily triggered, that developed when dealing with all his mother’s publicity in the 90s. But he has a purpose in his life, being on show in the “zoo”, and he has a wife who is a strong tempering influence.
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In addition to being dead attractive.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Harry is a decent man, I believe. He had a trauma when he was young and grew up in a God awful family. He did his military duty in Afghanistan then used his influence to set up the Invictus Games. He was also a solid supporter of his brother during their early adult days. So, those are his credits. As I've said above, he was born into a life of service and that's what he needs to continue with. Unfortunately, I don't think 'the firm' are any good at dealing with that sort of thing. I think that all the generations above William & Harry (Edward possibly excepted) are emotionally hopeless.
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I lost my Mother when I was 9. I just wanted to be swallowed up and disappear from everyone’s view, but no…school the next day and then the funeral a week later. Absolutely hated the attention (despite it being well intentioned). My ex RM father wasn’t exactly good on emotional support but he did his best. When Princess Di passed away my heart went out to Wills and Harry and I remember hoping that they would receive lots of cuddles. My point….I’ve never recovered and still suffer to this day but for Wills and Harry to be in the spotlight throughout it all, must have been and absolute nightmare. Harry is obviously still suffering and in my view receives unwarranted attention from the Right wing press on behalf of the establishment. Oh yes…l am a leftie.
 
Spizz Tony said:
I lost my Mother when I was 9. I just wanted to be swallowed up and disappear from everyone’s view, but no…school the next day and then the funeral a week later. Absolutely hated the attention (despite it being well intentioned). My ex RM father wasn’t exactly good on emotional support but he did his best. When Princess Di passed away my heart went out to Wills and Harry and I remember hoping that they would receive lots of cuddles. My point….I’ve never recovered and still suffer to this day but for Wills and Harry to be in the spotlight throughout it all, must have been and absolute nightmare. Harry is obviously still suffering and in my view receives unwarranted attention from the Right wing press on behalf of the establishment. Oh yes…l am a leftie.
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Good post Sir. I wish you well for the future, starting with your football team getting promoted by the end of the month!
 
Spizz Tony said:
I lost my Mother when I was 9. I just wanted to be swallowed up and disappear from everyone’s view, but no…school the next day and then the funeral a week later. Absolutely hated the attention (despite it being well intentioned). My ex RM father wasn’t exactly good on emotional support but he did his best. When Princess Di passed away my heart went out to Wills and Harry and I remember hoping that they would receive lots of cuddles. My point….I’ve never recovered and still suffer to this day but for Wills and Harry to be in the spotlight throughout it all, must have been and absolute nightmare. Harry is obviously still suffering and in my view receives unwarranted attention from the Right wing press on behalf of the establishment. Oh yes…l am a leftie.
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He no doubt is still suffering, but that’s no excuse for publicly trashing his family. He left the U.K. for a quiet life.
 
Matesrates said:
He no doubt is still suffering, but that’s no excuse for publicly trashing his family. He left the U.K. for a quiet life.
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I think he could say anything and the U.K. Press would go for him. The Daily Mail said that he implied his father was to blame which isn’t the same as saying his father was to blame…I think he is misrepresented in my view but who knows?
 
It’s the hypocrisy of wanting to still make a million off that very families name and titles that most of us are trashing. Not his mental health.
When my mental health was trashed by a particular person the last thing I wanted to do was have any association with them at all, not beg to keep hold of their name or connection.
They need to make their mind up and stop being so utterly hypocritical.
 
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Matesrates said:
He no doubt is still suffering, but that’s no excuse for publicly trashing his family. He left the U.K. for a quiet life.
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At what point did leaving the UK and stepping back from public duties because of the invasive press become using the said press to trash your family publicly. It’s almost like he’s forgotten what his problem was initially
I can’t help wondering whether the fact that Charles reportedly refused to support him financially had anything to do with it.
 
I am not sure all of what he and Meghan have done in the last 12 months has been wise but there is no doubt that his upbringing and mental state will have been affected by being brought up in a dysfunctional family that is surrounded by an organisation that freezes you out if is your face doesn't fit.
Whilst I have great respect for the Queen, all of her children are dysfunctional one way or the other. Firstly, Charles, a pretty dim bloke who has some bizarre views and can hardly string a decent couple of sentences together (I hate to think what the Chistmas day broadcasts will be like from this boring old fart) and he treated Diana appallingly, who like Meghan wasn't supported by the Firm . At least Meghan knew when to get out and did it early on. Perhaps it was his own upbringing - having the politically incorrect Philip as a father, in the care of nannies or strict boarding schools, despatched to Cambridge to be given his degree, in the armed forces and having a equerry to do all his tasks (including putting toothpaste on his toothbrush when an adult). Hardly a caring and loving upbringing, with no real friends and a good mentor to help. I am sure Charles wouldn't have been a normal father as we would know it.
Secondly, Anne. Well the saying could be 'like father like daughter', as in her early days she had a habit of putting her not politically correct foot in mouth. After she divorced and remarried she seemed to knuckle down and worked hard in her royal duties, with little of controversy. But they say old habits die hard and the comments about the colour of Harry and Meghan's baby reportedly came from her.
Thirdly, Andrew, the Queen's favourite son. Arrogant, dim, marries a freeloader and becomes one himself himself and instills the same qualities in his daughters. Associates with dodgy businessmen, dodgy royals and sex offenders. The Queen's big mistake is not sorting out this odious character, who has no redeeming features at all.
Lastly, Edward. Dimmest of the lot and with zero personality (I speak from personal experience, having met him twice). Having bombed out in the marines and been involved organising that bizarre It's A Knockout, he has been largely invisible, which is probably sensible. He does get credit for marrying the reasonably normal and sensible Sophie.
When you are faced will all these characters and the Palace mafia, it is hardly surprising that Harry has had some problems
 
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The Anne revelation (if true, reportedly) is interesting. How have you got this scoop when all the tabloids have been reluctant to publish? Or do we think they are all under a D-notice?
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
There’s no doubt to me that he is Charles’ son. The BBC recently showed a picture of Phillip with a beard and the resemblance to Harry was uncanny (possibly one reason why Harry is favoured by the Queen).

He was also born a couple of years before his mum and Hewitt were involved.
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Diana used to call Harry “my little Spencer” because she reckoned his ginger colouring came from her father, John, the 8th Earl Spencer.
 
Archibald Knox said:
The Anne revelation (if true, reportedly) is interesting. How have you got this scoop when all the tabloids have been reluctant to publish? Or do we think they are all under a D-notice?
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Came from the other side of the pond and has been widely circulated on social media, not long after the broadcast
 
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TangerineBayern said:
Now apparantly calling the US 1st Amendment 'Bonkers'. Hasn't gone too well over the pond.
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This is where him not being the sharpest knife in the drawer is going to expose some of his new ideologies over the pond as hypocritical nonsense.

He can’t be scripted on every word he publicly comes out with, and now he’s doing so many media interviews (oh the irony) he’s very vulnerable to making himself look a bit of a div.
As one USA reporter is quoted as saying this morning ‘ Don’t let the doorknob hit you on the way out, Windsor !’
It won’t go down well with her indoors either if he’s not able to ‘keep up’ and loses them popularity over there , but she’ll find someone else to blame for that one also no doubt.
 
Lala said:
This is where him not being the sharpest knife in the drawer is going to expose some of his new ideologies over the pond as hypocritical nonsense.

He can’t be scripted on every word he publicly comes out with, and now he’s doing so many media interviews (oh the irony) he’s very vulnerable to making himself look a bit of a div.
As one USA reporter is quoted as saying this morning ‘ Don’t let the doorknob hit you on the way out, Windsor !’
It won’t go down well with her indoors either if he’s not able to ‘keep up’ and loses them popularity over there , but she’ll find someone else to blame for that one also no doubt.
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Very true Lala and he’s a div already. There’s only so many more media circus interviews, podcasts and 'look at me' photo shoots before they realise the media attention gives them no privacy, oh wait a minute!! What a pair of publicity seeking numpties they are and fast becoming a hated couple.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
There’s no doubt to me that he is Charles’ son. The BBC recently showed a picture of Phillip with a beard and the resemblance to Harry was uncanny (possibly one reason why Harry is favoured by the Queen).

He was also born a couple of years before his mum and Hewitt were involved.
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What about the Ginger hair?
Anyone else in the Royal Family got it?
 
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