10pm closure

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Matesrates

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So all pubs and restaurants in the entire country will have to close at 10pm from Thursday, and other restrictions are due to be announced today.

Clearly this is aimed at young people who are the main group drinking late, especially at the weekend. Will it work? Frankly I think we’ll see an increase in illegal raves/parties in out of the way places and home parties. The police won’t be able to deal with all these and everyone knows it.

It’s a dilemma for the government, how do they stop the rise in cases, while keeping the economy going?
 
Stupid idea you can go in a pub as soon as they open for ten hours or more so shutting them early will make no difference only worse.
The number one spot for infections is people's homes your just encouraging folk to stock up at supermarkets which I presume aren't stopping selling booze at 10 and carry on.
 
It seems he’s implemented the most pointless expertise possible. I assume so it sees, he’s doing something while actually doing nothing.
 
GrahamwantshisOates said:
I travelled by train on several occasions recently and done many observations.
The people who have disregard for wearing masks and rules fall into 3 groups.
The contingent of youths , Asians ( although not the majority) and white meatheads.
Not being racial just from my observations.
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I think we are all making the same observations

A few months ago there were certain people on the news banging on how they were being let down and were more at risk yet my observations are that a lot of people from these groups are the ones not adhering to wearing a mask

And as another poster says, I think we need to crack the whip and beat this as the current life we are loving is not one I'd like to live for too much longer
 
It used to be the case that pubs were open till 10.30,&10.00on Sundays. Drinking up time, when introduced was 10 minutes, previously there was no such thing. So I'm sure closing early will hardly be a hardship.
 
I’m a bit concerned that this policy is neither one thing nor the other. That’ll it’ll damage the economy without actually doing much to address the increase in infections.

Don’t ask me what the answer is though as I find I change my mind pretty much daily on the approach we should adopt. I’ve just got a horrible feeling that we’re between a rock and a hard place, and whatever we do is going to have a high price tag attached.

There certainly isn’t an easy solution. If there were I’m sure Governments around the world would have grabbed it with both hands.
 
Covid is only on shift from 10pm to 5am now.
4 people in the vic including Clifton hospital none in icu. People going to start going out on all dayers till 10pm so won’t make a difference I don’t think. Fed up of it all now to be honest
 
Matesrates said:
It’s a dilemma for the government, how do they stop the rise in cases, while keeping the economy going?
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Possibly the next step is a general curfew, everybody at home by 8pm unless travelling for work or other limited reasons. This would likely affect the younger age groups more than older ones and thus slow down the rate of infection without crippling most of the economy, time and rules can be flexed depending upon circumstances.

I'm not saying I want this, but it does seem a logical next step.
 
Curryman said:
It used to be the case that pubs were open till 10.30,&10.00on Sundays. Drinking up time, when introduced was 10 minutes, previously there was no such thing. So I'm sure closing early will hardly be a hardship.
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That was 30 years ago. Nowadays the young don't usually go out until past 10pm. They've adapted to the 24 hour society in a way that gives them "their time" with few "oldies" about. 10pm closing is no big deal to most over 40s - but it may mean you'll see far more youngsters in pubs earlier...or, more likely... they'll just have more house gatherings instead. Rightly or wrongly, this ruling is aimed squarely at the young.
 
I think it is aimed at the young too, and therefore I support it. Rightly or wrongly, they are the biggest risk group in terms of spreading this and some inhibition of their movement seems logical. I think I would have gone further, but it's a delicate balance between safety and economic hardship.

If it means we all drink less too, that would be a useful by-product of all this.
 
straightatthewall said:
Well there’s more than an element of do as I say, but not as I did about it. So yes, that’s unreasonable. 👍🏻
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Reformed smokers and drinkers are the worst!!

I fit into both categories and it’s very difficult not to slip into evangelical mode. So hardly surprising that the Icon is pontificating from his ivory lectern!
 
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BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Reformed smokers and drinkers are the worst!!

I fit into both categories and it’s very difficult not to slip into evangelical mode. So hardly surprising that the Icon is pontificating from his ivory lectern!
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I don't recall pontificating about anything, or indeed telling anyone what to do. I suppose you see what you want to see, don't you? 😀
 
its just complete bollocks.

A virus that respects what time of day it is,absolutely comical.

People will just order two extra pints at half nine so no reduction in drunk people if thats what they intended. Then you have every person in town all leaving bars at the same time trying to queue for taxis in larger numbers than you wouldve had at 3am pre corona. All cramming into takeaways, all using public transport, all piling in the off licences and getting pissed up in the street. Totally pointless.

Just trying to look as though they are doing something but really they havent got a clue.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Reformed smokers and drinkers are the worst!!

I fit into both categories and it’s very difficult not to slip into evangelical mode. So hardly surprising that the Icon is pontificating from his ivory lectern!
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I can't help but wonder what the responses would be if Roberto had said, "I used to drink a bit more and I think others should follow my lead".

I can't say I am an expert on Robbie's drinking habits - previously or currently - but I am guessing that he is now drinking less than he previously did and is enjoying the obvious benefits of doing so ?

If he didn't say that people would benefit from drinking less he would be a pr1ck.

I am not teetotal myself but I am sure that I would benefit from drinking less myself along with the rest of the planet.

Rant over.
 
The ten o'clock curfew is basically 9.30 in reality last orders are being called at 9.15 and venues have to be totally empty by 10.
Hopefully this won't last for long as staff will be getting laid off as my son has already cut hours in his place.
 
Look most of my pissed up nonsense in a pub or venue has been after 10pm.
I understand why people are not happy, Hey I still love a late drink & getting smashed from time to time as much as the next man.
I can see why they have done it. Lets be honest they are trying to get everyone to be a little more sensible in unprecedented times.
Not everyone will simply start earlier or go on to house parties as some on here suggest🤣
 
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You lot would never have survived the ‘70s when opening hours were very restrictive, Bay Horse in Thornton was 12:00-14:30 and 18:30-22:30 Mon-Thurs then 11:30-15:00 and 17:30-23:00 Fri/Sat with Sunday being 12:00-14:00 and 19:00-10:00

Makes you wonder how the Reagans made a living, mind you when last order rang the Optics took a battering as everyone doubled up on pints and shorts to camp out on drinking up time - I’m sure Curryman will confirm they saw as much ring up on the till in those last 10 minutes as they had taken all day!
 
If the silly rules get all too much, just go to the offie instead....

 
Two examples of how this 10.00pm curfew might pan out:
1. Until the 1970s Glasgow pubs used to close at 9.30. this caused a lot of early and large volume drinking.
2. In Australia in the 1950s pubs would close at 6.00-6.30. this caused a mad rush to drink lots of beer very quickly.
Neither of these examples was beneficial to public order.
That was why Blair was keen to go down the Continental route of more relaxed drinking hours. Personally, I think he misunderstood British boozing culture when he did this but it was a better idea than the early closing laws.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Reformed smokers and drinkers are the worst!!

I fit into both categories and it’s very difficult not to slip into evangelical mode. So hardly surprising that the Icon is pontificating from his ivory lectern!
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So do I. I decided that smoking was shit, so I stopped. I decided that drinking was good so I improved the quality of what I drink.
 
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