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is it typical of the council to deflect blame rather than getting on with sorting it out? If so many properties are empty and not being maintained couldn't the council give notice that they will be compulsory purchased or repossessed and then redeveloped. Especially shut down hotels for housing. If people come forward to claim the property as theirs they can then be charged for leaving the property in a dangerous state of disrepair.

Firm action needs to be taken.
 
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20togo said:
is it typical of the council to deflect blame rather than getting on with sorting it out? If so many properties are empty and not being maintained couldn't the council give notice that they will be compulsory purchased and then redeveloped. Especially shut down hotels for housing.
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Would seem a reasonable solution šŸ‘
 
20togo said:
is it typical of the council to deflect blame rather than getting on with sorting it out? If so many properties are empty and not being maintained couldn't the council give notice that they will be compulsory purchased or repossessed and then redeveloped. Especially shut down hotels for housing. If people come forward to claim the property as theirs they can then be charged for leaving the property in a dangerous state of disrepair.

Firm action needs to be taken.
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Iā€™m not a lawyer but do get involved in property acquisition for clients. Council is not wrong in that they canā€™t serve a notice under the Housing Act or Building Act or issue CPOs and then expect to recover costs from property owners - it wouldnā€™t stand up in court. And tracing ownership Iā€™m sure is complex and time consuming.

If they were to issue a CPO they need to pay market value which needs money they havenā€™t got without additional government funding. And they canā€™t ā€œre-possessā€ a property thatā€™s not theirs in the first place.

So the real problem as ever is funding in that property law is pretty cumbersome but does a good job of protecting ownersā€™ property rights. A boost to funding could give councils more Ā£ to trace ownership, more enforcement officers, better legal support, money for more CPOs, budget for maintenance works etc etc
 
Dr Hfuhruhurr said:
Iā€™m not a lawyer but do get involved in property acquisition for clients. Council is not wrong in that they canā€™t serve a notice under the Housing Act or Building Act or issue CPOs and then expect to recover costs from property owners - it wouldnā€™t stand up in court. And tracing ownership Iā€™m sure is complex and time consuming.

If they were to issue a CPO they need to pay market value which needs money they havenā€™t got without additional government funding. And they canā€™t ā€œre-possessā€ a property thatā€™s not theirs in the first place.

So the real problem as ever is funding in that property law is pretty cumbersome but does a good job of protecting ownersā€™ property rights. A boost to funding could give councils more Ā£ to trace ownership, more enforcement officers, better legal support, money for more CPOs, budget for maintenance works etc etc
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cheers for the explanation. Was only looking at it from a laymans pov and thinking how the council could improve.
 
Dr Hfuhruhurr said:
Iā€™m not a lawyer but do get involved in property acquisition for clients. Council is not wrong in that they canā€™t serve a notice under the Housing Act or Building Act or issue CPOs and then expect to recover costs from property owners - it wouldnā€™t stand up in court. And tracing ownership Iā€™m sure is complex and time consuming.

If they were to issue a CPO they need to pay market value which needs money they havenā€™t got without additional government funding. And they canā€™t ā€œre-possessā€ a property thatā€™s not theirs in the first place.

So the real problem as ever is funding in that property law is pretty cumbersome but does a good job of protecting ownersā€™ property rights. A boost to funding could give councils more Ā£ to trace ownership, more enforcement officers, better legal support, money for more CPOs, budget for maintenance works etc etc
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sorry, but just one more thought. All these empty decaying premises,especially hotels. I doubt very much these untraceable owners will be paying rates, council tax and all other sorts of bills on them. Is that not a perfectly valid reason to take ownership of them and put pressure on these missing owners to come forward. I'd imagine that the council are losing hundreds of thousands of pounds on them.
 
20togo said:
sorry, but just one more thought. All these empty decaying premises,especially hotels. I doubt very much these untraceable owners will be paying rates, council tax and all other sorts of bills on them. Is that not a perfectly valid reason to take ownership of them and put pressure on these missing owners to come forward. I'd imagine that the council are losing hundreds of thousands of pounds on them.
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Itā€™s a fair point 20 but the council canā€™t just take ownership because someoneā€™s not paying up, itā€™s just seen as a civil debt. So the council has to go through the courts and apply for an enforced sale if it wants to recover whatā€™s owed. Even then, the property is sold and the proceeds go toward the debt but the council doesnā€™t become the new owner. Frustrating.
 
Dr Hfuhruhurr said:
Itā€™s a fair point 20 but the council canā€™t just take ownership because someoneā€™s not paying up, itā€™s just seen as a civil debt. So the council has to go through the courts and apply for an enforced sale if it wants to recover whatā€™s owed. Even then, the property is sold and the proceeds go toward the debt but the council doesnā€™t become the new owner. Frustrating.
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thanks again for explanation
 
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