A personal thanks to teachers

To be clear I’m not denigrating anyone’s contribution It’s not about that It’s just the talk of pay rises in the public sector when we are facing meltdown ( and that’s what we are ) doesn’t sit right with me

I understand that and it's a powerful and pragmatic argument. What I would want to see is that Austerity 3 is genuinely spread amongst all according to their means to contribute and that it is recognised that Austerity 2 was generally paid for in public service pay freezes and cuts, whereas others benefited from low taxation and rates of business tax. That's not a public v private argument, especially in the north west, running many businesses is incredibly hard and not always especially financially rewarding.

Austerity 1 (imo the best in the franchise) was a different beast altogether, which I'm not saying is a playbook, but it does demonstrate that a country can rebuild after unthinkable destruction and share the task and at the same time create new and positive ideas.
 
There aren’t going to be any jobs to desert the public sector for 😆
But there will be, cash will be pumped in to prop it all up, it'll have to be, austerity will finish the country, where the cash is found is up to the politicians, if they can't do it elect new politicians, it's their job. Anyone can count beans

Pragmatism before imagination simply won't work this time.

I don't know if the dam reference above was tongue in cheek or not but it worked for FDR, because of imagination and ideas, the new deal bullied the corporations in to acting and the same fear mongering was touted by them back then.
 
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But there will be, cash will be pumped in to prop it all up, it'll have to get, austerity will finish the country, where the cash is found is up to the politicians, if they can't do it elect new politicians, it's their job. Anyone can count beans

Pragmatism before imagination simply won't work this time.
Love the optimism
Hope you are right 👍
 
Sorry to be doom and gloom but we are in for the mother of all austerity periods once we get through this
Who’s going to pay for these pay rises ?
The people of Britain will pay for them. However, I imagine the likes of Amazon, Branson, Google and Starbucks will find 'completely legal' ways of minimising their contributions.
 
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Not excuses
The truth
Our employees don’t earn more than their comparators in the public sector - I’d suggest far less
What I earn depends on the profit I can generate
Trust me when I tell you in a high street practice in South Shore I’m not rolling in it - whilst the business pays huge sums in tax already via VAT / PAYE / NIC and personal tax
You can increase those rates as much as you want but we won’t be paying as much next year or the year after as revenues are massively down That’s fact
We are doing better than most I think - most of our competitors have effectively closed the doors however we have furloughed nearly half our employees nevertheless
It’s tough out there
Forgive me if I’m not banging the drum of pay rises in the public sector when there are many a lot worse off
Why do people feel the need to reduce the discussion to one of public vs private sector? No-one in either sector is looking for ways to get one over on the other. If wages are low in any sector then look to the owners and bosses in those sectors to explain why they depress wages.
 
Why do people feel the need to reduce the discussion to one of public vs private sector? No-one in either sector is looking for ways to get one over on the other. If wages are low in any sector then look to the owners and bosses in those sectors to explain why they depress wages.
I already have. Our wages have been depressed deliberately for a decade on the grounds of Tory austerity dogma. Apparently it finished two years ago but we've still fallen further behind inflation.
 
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