A terrible idea from BFC.

Nothing proves the saying more true than this post: "you can't please all the people, all of the time"

This initiative only has to be successful with a very small amount of the children given shirts, the amount a lifelong fan reinvests back into the club is a significant figure. I'm sure the club has done research and hasn't just decided to give a random age group shirts.
 
Cuthbert said:
Well Wizard you are probably in a very small minority. What Blackpool have done has been extensively welcomed by other clubs in the football world. You assume that for many parents getting to the ground is easy and cost free. Itā€™s easier if you have a car and that prejudices your outlook in ease. Poverty is a real problem in the town, your views are largely irrelevant but I did feel the need to let you know how wrong you are.
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All our views are relevant on this Board Cuthbert. We may choose to disagree with them but it doesn't make them irrelevant.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
All our views are relevant on this Board Cuthbert. We may choose to disagree with them but it doesn't make them irrelevant.
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Except its based on a misconception. The shirts idea was initially Raggy's and not the club's for starters, and it's not the club bearing the overall cost.

Seems like a great partnership of supporters, club and the Community Trust, just like we hoped it would be in the dark days of the boycott, when such schemes seemed impossible.
 
I thought it was a great idea. Plenty of kids support teams they can't go to see for a variety of reasons but that doesn't prevent them from having a sense of pride in and identity with their local club. My only gripe is they didn't extend the scheme to retired exiles.
 
voyeur said:
But if, as is apparently the case, the shirts will be given only to kids who want one, there isn't a problem.

I don't agree with the tokenism comment though, or that Brentford flying to Cyprus means that it's ok to be wasteful. I believe there needs to be a sea change in how we consume. And companies and organisations need to adopt strong policies that seek to avoid unnecessary consumption and waste. The shirts are no doubt manufactured in the far east and shipped across the world. It's a drop in the ocean but it doesn't mean it's ok to have a scattergun approach to resources, this needs to change in all walks of life.

Sorry, I just hate the way we have become accustomed to mass consumption, and waste on a humongous scale. This initiative is not really the best example! Especially if only kids who want one get one.
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Your first and last paragraphs appear to be contradictory. Just saying.
 
LeedsSeasider said:
Yeah I saw that. But even if they matched that figure then it is what it is.
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Youā€™re losing me here, LS. The club didnā€™t match anything. It was a BSA initiative.
Now, Iā€™ve idea how many members BSA has but as far as I do know, they bought the shirts. For example: pay Ā£60 and become a life member. From that Ā£60. one kids shirt could be bought. From the makers or the club? I donā€™t know.
It hit itā€™s target because some people put a lot of time and effort into it succeeding.
A good idea, no?
If we do something similar next year, Iā€™ll back it again.
 
Stony Hill said:
Youā€™re losing me here, LS. The club didnā€™t match anything. It was a BSA initiative.
Now, Iā€™ve idea how many members BSA has but as far as I do know, they bought the shirts. For example: pay Ā£60 and become a life member. From that Ā£60. one kids shirt could be bought. From the makers or the club? I donā€™t know.
It hit itā€™s target because some people put a lot of time and effort into it succeeding.
A good idea, no?
If we do something similar next year, Iā€™ll back it again.
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It was not BSA!
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
It seems what I have written isn't popular. Surely though if the shirts had a bigger age scope and had to be collected from the shop ,this would target the parents that are interested in taking their kids to matches ,plus other things may be bought by the collecting idea and the club would be targeting a greater age group. My son had little interest in watching Blackpool till he was 9 ,now he is a season ticket holder and gone to all the Wembley finals since Orient.
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If all parents collected from the Club shop, hope you factor in environmental travel impact šŸ˜‰
 
Of course it's a great idea and well done to all those involved. My only observation is that as a kid at that age, I would have had/taken one whether I wanted one or not.
 
Stony Hill said:
It wasnā€™t the club that paid for the shirts. So, no impact on the clubs running costs or Simon S, although I think he did put something in the kitty.
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The club will be lucky to get 20 new fans as they have targetted too young. With that 20 ,they would have to be regular goers for a number of years to get the money back ,and by the time they would be paying for full adult tickets we would probably had a war or global warming would have sunk most of the Fylde and Blackpool.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
The club will be lucky to get 20 new fans as they have targetted too young. With that 20 ,they would have to be regular goers for a number of years to get the money back ,and by the time they would be paying for full adult tickets we would probably had a war or global warming would have sunk most of the Fylde and Blackpool.
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Did you and your lad go to the Exeter play off final?
 
voyeur said:
I don't think so.
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Para 1. If the shirts will be given only to kids who want one, there isn't a problem.
Para 3. This initiative is not really the best example! Especially if only kids who want one get one.
Am I missing something? I don't necessarily disagree with your drift, I just don't follow.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
The club will be lucky to get 20 new fans as they have targetted too young. With that 20 ,they would have to be regular goers for a number of years to get the money back ,and by the time they would be paying for full adult tickets we would probably had a war or global warming would have sunk most of the Fylde and Blackpool.
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At least GJJW has found where my money went.
Makes me feel better that Iā€˜m doing something (admittedly, not much) by supporting initiatives.
And, theyā€™ll be back asking for more now they know Iā€™m a soft touch.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
My other half, who has never been a football fan, grew up in London. Her local team was QPR. They gave out teddies to kids in the 1980's. Even though she doesn't know much about football to this day, whenever QPR come on TV, she lights up and mentions that teddy. So these Blackpool kids who receive a shirt may not go to games this season or next but gestures of kindness last a lifetime and will be fondly thought of whatever they do in future.
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Atalanta in Italy do something similar. Every child born in Bergamo receives a package from the club with a kit and some baby milk (made in the town).

They are a small tow (about 100,000 population) just outside Milan, so need to try to lure supporters away from the Milan giants.
 
tangible said:
Para 1. If the shirts will be given only to kids who want one, there isn't a problem.
Para 3. This initiative is not really the best example! Especially if only kids who want one get one.
Am I missing something? I don't necessarily disagree with your drift, I just don't follow.
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This initiative is not a good example of wasteful consumption, because only kids who want one will get one. Apparently.
 
Stony Hill said:
Youā€™re losing me here, LS. The club didnā€™t match anything. It was a BSA initiative.
Now, Iā€™ve idea how many members BSA has but as far as I do know, they bought the shirts. For example: pay Ā£60 and become a life member. From that Ā£60. one kids shirt could be bought. From the makers or the club? I donā€™t know.
It hit itā€™s target because some people put a lot of time and effort into it succeeding.
A good idea, no?
If we do something similar next year, Iā€™ll back it again.
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I was saying ā€œeven if the club did match itā€ itā€™s a drop in the ocean and still benefits the clubā€¦ haha.
 
Don't Visit Blackpool as an alternative sponsor?.Just being tongue in cheek.

One thing Sadler gets absolutely is the need to take the fanbase along with him to make the club a success and self sustaining.Any initiative that raises the club's profile in a positive way should be welcomed.

L
 
basilrobbie3 said:
It's a three way collaboration with the Trust putting in Ā£15k to (largely) fund it. It covers the thirty odd schools in Blackpool.

Two things :

1) the target group was selected based upon research that the club had seen suggesting this was the age when children start to form attachments

2) like most such projects, there was a finite limit to what the Trust could afford

The OP's alternative is completely unworkable in my view. You can't buy in stock to cater for or anticipate a free for all, you would soon have to start turning people away and almost certainly wouldn't be able to target one group.
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Itā€™s a good initiative imho plus which itā€™s done by a collective who are ā€œdoingā€ something, aiming to do something for the good.

I have repect for that rather than people who are not ā€œdoing somethingā€ and simply try to critique the actions of the ā€œdoingā€ Group.
 
Well all kids are known for following ā€œwhatā€™s inā€

There is no doubt that (due to the amazing achievements of SS,NC & Co) that following Blackpool FC in ā€œIn Vogueā€.

What a great initiative to switch-sell kid of an ā€œinfluential ageā€ from Premiership Giantsā€ to THEIR ā€œBeautiful Local Football Clubā€ a team they can actually get tickets to go & watch!!!!

Ok the odd one may end up in the bin, but the undoubted long term benefits will heavily out-weigh the odd short term drawbacks.

WHAT A GREAT INITIATIVE!!

WELL DONE TO BLACKPOOL FC & THE COMMUNITY TRUST!!!!! šŸšŒšŸš¢šŸ§”šŸ§”
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
The club will be lucky to get 20 new fans as they have targetted too young. With that 20 ,they would have to be regular goers for a number of years to get the money back ,and by the time they would be paying for full adult tickets we would probably had a war or global warming would have sunk most of the Fylde and Blackpool.
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Do you think 6 and 7 year olds go on their own?
 
Torycorner said:
Well all kids are known for following ā€œwhatā€™s inā€

There is no doubt that (due to the amazing achievements of SS,NC & Co) that following Blackpool FC in ā€œIn Vogueā€.

What a great initiative to switch-sell kid of an ā€œinfluential ageā€ from Premiership Giantsā€ to THEIR ā€œBeautiful Local Football Clubā€ a team they can actually get tickets to go & watch!!!!

Ok the odd one may end up in the bin, but the undoubted long term benefits will heavily out-weigh the odd short term drawbacks.

WHAT A GREAT INITIATIVE!!

WELL DONE TO BLACKPOOL FC & THE COMMUNITY TRUST!!!!! šŸšŒšŸš¢šŸ§”šŸ§”
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Typical Ashley. Name checks everyone except the people paying for it šŸ˜
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
I have just watched Good Morning Britain and they have just done a story on Brentford and them keeping the same shirts to save the enviroment . What do Blackpool do ,they give out free shirts to every School kid around the ages of 6 or 7. The idea is to boost support for the future . It seems that this has not been thought through properly. Some people can't afford to take their kids to matches , some kids already support other teams , some parents support other teams and still won't take their kids to matches.
Why did they not make it a free shirt to everyone willing to go to the shop and collect one. Straight away you have targeted the parents that may be willing to take their kids to matches and why not have made it 5 to 10 year olds. I have a grand daughter who I am desperate to take to matches ,but she shows little interest and I am not willing to gamble on spending money on something that does not mean anything to her. The sad thing is that her step sister will get one and it will end up in a bin as there is no interest from that side of the family.
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Nope sorry I canā€™t agree with any of that. IMO Itā€™s a great initiative, Iā€™m pretty sure no one will be forced to have one. As for your personal anecdote, can step sister not pass hers on? Not willing to gamble money on something they may not like - I do that with every present for my kids, youā€™re never sure if theyā€™ll like it or use it (exhibit A being dusty scalectrix on top of wardrobe). If not, thatā€™s a shame but ā€œit doesnā€™t suit my personal circumstancesā€ isnā€™t a great argument against an initiative which IMO is massively positive.
 
Totally disagree with the OP, great initiative to try and expand the Tangerine Faithful, as the demographic shows within the fan base new support will be needed to sustain the future of the club. The children do have a choice whether to accept the shirt, and making memories for a child can only be a good thing if a parent can afford to take their child to a game.
 
michellebutterflyhotel said:
They will probably ask the kids at school if they would like one. Not a bad thing at all in my eyes. I know someone who has 4 kids and canā€™t afford four BFC shirts but would jump at the chance of having shirts given to their children Well done BFC I say. Scumbags wouldnā€™t have ever done anything like this
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I'm not sure you've thought that through MBH. Are you saying this family have four 5/6 year old children? Quads then?

It's a great Idea but a little unkind on the environment. Brentford can now afford not to rely on shirt sales.
 
hills98 said:
Nope sorry I canā€™t agree with any of that. IMO Itā€™s a great initiative, Iā€™m pretty sure no one will be forced to have one. As for your personal anecdote, can step sister not pass hers on? Not willing to gamble money on something they may not like - I do that with every present for my kids, youā€™re never sure if theyā€™ll like it or use it (exhibit A being dusty scalectrix on top of wardrobe). If not, thatā€™s a shame but ā€œit doesnā€™t suit my personal circumstancesā€ isnā€™t a great argument against an initiative which IMO is massively positive.
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Step sister is six and grandaughter is a large 9 year old. It would look like a bikini.
 
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