Another season of empty seats then

Why didn't anyone say anything when at the dialogue meeting, surely the time to mention this.

Maybe thats the issue, if the top groups aren't willing to call out when something is wrong then maybe they think its OK.

If the club had an avftt presence they could have done a poll to gauge opinion.

I'd rather the club have named the stadium the Bloomfield Road addidas arena and kept prices low than just raise them.
The prices weren't known at the time of the meeting.
 
It literally just happened for the derby game which was a nothing game.

Its a pretty simple concept that the lower it is the more turn up.

Also its an investment in growing the fanbase too, which is for the future and can also have a huge impact on the team and performance.

The extra fans can have a big effect.
It literally happened that Derby brought 4,100, many more than anyone else.
 
The prices are misjudged. They will struggle to attract more supporters on that basis.
How the Hell can they charge MORE for printing a ticket at home using your computer and consumables and no postage costs? Should be £2 discount. It’s so obviously wrong.
Will there be a say, 10% discount in the BFC shop with season ticket / membership card? Might help shift a few shirts, etc.
 
We are a small club in this league and have to make money anyway we can and sadly, because of our location, ripping off away fans is one way to maximise profits.

I think it’s pretty smart apart from the 18-21 price which is too high. Any adult fan that doesn’t want to come now probably never will unless we get in the prem.

It’s the younger generation we’re I think we’ve fucked up. Apart from that it’s bang on.

Edit: the print at home cost is ridiculous.
 
I’ll accept that I’m a bit slow sometimes but what’s the big thing about growing our fanbase? We haven’t got anywhere to put them until the ground is developed. That is if we accept that there is already existing demand from away fans which has been previously unfulfilled. The money from more away fans is much more likely to be achieved than the potential of possible new walk-ups. And yes, we sacrifice some of the home advantage. But possibly success on the pitch isn’t the number one priority until the infrastructure has been developed to capitalise on it.
Which suggests we have to be patient for a few seasons.
 
I think that so much of what our club is doing demonstrates that we are a community focused club ,the community trust is doing great work .
Regarding season ticket prices I hope the vast majority will support Simon Sadlers ambitions to create a sustainable future for the club and buy season tickets in greater numbers. Season tickets are the best way to save on match day prices and shows a real commitment and confidence in what Simon is trying to achieve .
A lot of people work shifts and weekends, season ticket isnt working for us, we aren't lesser fans why are we charged so much more?
 
A lot of people work shifts and weekends, season ticket isnt working for us, we aren't lesser fans why are we charged so much more?
THIS. THIS. THIS. THIS. And then THIS again.

It's double the price.

People of all walks of life work shifts, evenings, Saturdays and so on. Ok, there's a need to incentivise season tickets but DOUBLE?

It's really odd when you think about it. If I rung my local pub and said... Can I have a half price pint if I come for one every Tuesday, they'd say "on yr bike" If I rang up on the Monday and said "can I have a pint on Tuesday, but cheaper than it would be if I just came in on Tuesday and asked for one" they'd also say "on yr bike"

I don't get it at all other than it's an attempt to move as many people to season tickets as possible and thus have as much up front income as possible that doesn't depend on form, weather (or even pandemics...) etc.
 
The ST early bird prices are 369,which is £10 more than I was paying about 12 years ago. The difference this time is that we can see 30m being invested in club legacy/development. I think St's are reasonable.
About £175 more than you paid 8 years ago...

The wider economic context is important. We are in the early part of what is going to be the deepest recession since 1929. Increasing prices is tone-deaf at this moment in time.
 
You are being reeled in again.
Well done for another 200 bagger.

The club have announced new training facilities and plans of the East Stand and you complain about a small price increase.

FFS Buy a membership and even if you can only make a few games then pass it on to a family member, friend or AVFTT !
Same applies to a season ticket
 
This is an extremely difficult circle to square. I can see all sides of the argument.
If you are one off big game fan then you are only spending £32 or maybe £64 pee season.
If you are financially hard pressed then it's always going to be difficult to afford football over lifes priorities (food, rent etc). Any match day ticket price us going to be tough to justify.
For the slightly better off, but not able to afford a ST, and you'd like to get to half a dozen games then the membership option is a must which for 6 games + a membership is £28 per match, £168 per season.
 
Get a membership, buy in advance and abduct an Under 5 year old so you can get in the family stand without paying any extra for the abductee and it turns out to only be £20 a match.
 
The amount of assumptions people are making on these ticket threads is unbelievable.

You have one person throwing numbers around and prices trying to justify they know better, and believing their fairy tail made up numbers and you have other people who just think/assume the prices are too high, and you have the rest who think they are about right.

The club have picked price points that they believe are right - however they got there we simply do not know.

NOBODY knows for sure if they are right, over priced or even cheap, and will not until the season is over or a good way in at least.

One thing for sure is, if they are wrong - they will be different next year!

If i was running Blackpool FC I would look at something like the following over the season....

1, Season ticket revenue
2, Non season Ticket revenue
3, Other match day revenue
4, Net number supporters under / over age 21 against last season(s)
5, Number of walk ups compared to last year, compared to total match day ticket sales

Once I had this info I would know if I was getting it right or not and leave / change accordingly.

Agree with this.

The decision will be strongly data lead.

We now have a group of intelligent, aware and astute people running the club.

I trust their judgment far more than those on here. Sorry keyboard warriors :)
 
You are being reeled in again.
Well done for another 200 bagger.

The club have announced new training facilities and plans of the East Stand and you complain about a small price increase.

FFS Buy a membership and even if you can only make a few games then pass it on to a family member, friend or AVFTT !
It is a boiling the frog problem.

The headline price rise is minor, but don't forget that this is on the back of other recent rises such as charging significantly more for seats in Block L/N.

Me and my lad used to sit by the steps right next to the home dugout. He loved being able to interact with the players as they came out, being able to hear the manager and subs during the game.

If we want to sit there (L/N) next season it will cost me £837 (1 adult, 2 kids) compared to £367 in the kiddie corner.

There's no real justification for it other than greed, especially when you factor in that we might have the worst facilities in the league.
 
This is an extremely difficult circle to square. I can see all sides of the argument.
If you are one off big game fan then you are only spending £32 or maybe £64 pee season.
If you are financially hard pressed then it's always going to be difficult to afford football over lifes priorities (food, rent etc). Any match day ticket price us going to be tough to justify.
For the slightly better off, but not able to afford a ST, and you'd like to get to half a dozen games then the membership option is a must which for 6 games + a membership is £28 per match, £168 per season.
Although we could square the circle pretty simply by charging the same kind of prices for match tickets as local competitors like PKE and Rovers. In fact most teams in the division. We have decided to go rogue and piss everybody off.
 
But you can go and watch top end Championship clubs who have spent tens of £millions or even hundreds of £millions on their squads for similar money. And Blackpool has the lowest average wages the highest deprivation and poverty indices in the country.

First own goal credited to Sadler!
You mean Simon Sadler
 
Bang on that pal

Its like non season ticket holders don't matter

And thats clearly wrong
If we had a 25,000 capacity stadium some of your good ideas would be alot easier to put in place for the Club financially. Last seasons average was about 13,400. Taking account of the seats lost through segregation the ground capacity is probably not much over 15,000. So we're not far short of that.
 
I’ll accept that I’m a bit slow sometimes but what’s the big thing about growing our fanbase? We haven’t got anywhere to put them until the ground is developed. That is if we accept that there is already existing demand from away fans which has been previously unfulfilled. The money from more away fans is much more likely to be achieved than the potential of possible new walk-ups. And yes, we sacrifice some of the home advantage. But possibly success on the pitch isn’t the number one priority until the infrastructure has been developed to capitalise on it.
Which suggests we have to be patient for a few seasons.
Nail on head I'd say.
 
I’ll accept that I’m a bit slow sometimes but what’s the big thing about growing our fanbase? We haven’t got anywhere to put them until the ground is developed. That is if we accept that there is already existing demand from away fans which has been previously unfulfilled. The money from more away fans is much more likely to be achieved than the potential of possible new walk-ups. And yes, we sacrifice some of the home advantage. But possibly success on the pitch isn’t the number one priority until the infrastructure has been developed to capitalise on it.
Which suggests we have to be patient for a few seasons.
Absolutely agree with this.

Until we have a much larger capacity that would truly allow a ‘sell em cheap and pack em in’ approach the club has to maximise revenue where it can to build everything up.

If you are looking at a model like Bradford then that isn’t happening here, not for a few years anyway. We need way more capacity than currently and to get there we also need two key factors.

First an owner with a plan and who will put money in with the knowledge there is a risk he may not get it back for a good while, if at all - SS looks to me like that man.

The second key factor is a large degree of patience from us as supporters, and that is entirely on our shoulders. It might not be all fun but it is important for the future of this club.
 
Can’t afford it don’t go is the wrong attitude I’m afraid.
Like saying if you can't afford food, don't eat. Surprising how many people will accept these price rises in some areas but whinge like hell about price rises in something else.
 
We had to give up our ST's when moving back to Cheshire for child care reasons.
We took our grandson to 4 games last season (he was free as a 4 year old but he's now 5). For various reasons we're estimating that we can take him to 3 or 4 games next season and we're trying to work out the most affordable price, as the day costs us about £100.
Attending 3 games as a member, works out the same as not being a member, which appears a bit odd.
We're still head scratching trying to work out the best option!
 
We had to give up our ST's when moving back to Cheshire for child care reasons.
We took our grandson to 4 games last season (he was free as a 4 year old but he's now 5). For various reasons we're estimating that we can take him to 3 or 4 games next season and we're trying to work out the most affordable price, as the day costs us about £100.
Attending 3 games as a member, works out the same as not being a member, which appears a bit odd.
We're still head scratching trying to work out the best option!
I'm sure a 5 year old could easily pass for a 4 year old.
 
We had to give up our ST's when moving back to Cheshire for child care reasons.
We took our grandson to 4 games last season (he was free as a 4 year old but he's now 5). For various reasons we're estimating that we can take him to 3 or 4 games next season and we're trying to work out the most affordable price, as the day costs us about £100.
Attending 3 games as a member, works out the same as not being a member, which appears a bit odd.
We're still head scratching trying to work out the best option!
It does feel like the Club are trying to be too clever for the sake of a difference in revenue that - in the grand scheme of things - will probably end up amounting to a fraction of the fee they end up getting for JB.
 
Do POTG have to provide purchase history? Seems to me the £32 is to get more money from away fans. Would be interesting to know how many POTG we had last season. Ive no problem with season ticket price.
 
If we had a 25,000 capacity stadium some of your good ideas would be alot easier to put in place for the Club financially. Last seasons average was about 13,400. Taking account of the seats lost through segregation the ground capacity is probably not much over 15,000. So we're not far short of that.
12,104. Only climbed above 12000 with the last home game.

 
So you expect Sandler to stump up his cash but you won't part with measly few hundred. This is Championship football not the League of Wales you little Welsh Wanker.
Point 1 its Sadler

Point 2 i will part with my money I've said as much, i will be buying season tickets

Point 3 i know what league it is

Point 4 I'm not Welsh

Oh and you aren't Mike you sad man ...
 
THIS. THIS. THIS. THIS. And then THIS again.

It's double the price.

People of all walks of life work shifts, evenings, Saturdays and so on. Ok, there's a need to incentivise season tickets but DOUBLE?

It's really odd when you think about it. If I rung my local pub and said... Can I have a half price pint if I come for one every Tuesday, they'd say "on yr bike" If I rang up on the Monday and said "can I have a pint on Tuesday, but cheaper than it would be if I just came in on Tuesday and asked for one" they'd also say "on yr bike"

I don't get it at all other than it's an attempt to move as many people to season tickets as possible and thus have as much up front income as possible that doesn't depend on form, weather (or even pandemics...) etc.
I certainly feel like I am being coerced into buying a season ticket even though I would probably miss something like 10 or 12 games.
Membership may be the answer I will have to work it out but the easiest option for me would have been £25 for a single ticket against any opposition.
 
I certainly feel like I am being coerced into buying a season ticket even though I would probably miss something like 10 or 12 games.
Membership may be the answer I will have to work it out but the easiest option for me would have been £25 for a single ticket against any opposition.
On a more serious reply - could there be a way of adopting a shared season ticket where a group of mates can agree to split the cost of an ST say 3 ways and got to matches on pre-fxture released dates so someone doesn't just bag the so called big games? Just a thought? Not an easy option admittedly!
 
On a more serious reply - could there be a way of adopting a shared season ticket where a group of mates can agree to split the cost of an ST say 3 ways and got to matches on pre-fxture released dates so someone doesn't just bag the so called big games? Just a thought? Not an easy option admittedly!
It's a possibility. One of my brothers also works shifts it might be worth us going halves on a season ticket and splitting the cost of the individual ticket when we both want to go.

Another section of supporters we may miss out on are the uncommitted floaters who take in the odd game.
A couple of mates support Everton and United respectively, one goes to Goodison regularly the other is an old Trafford season ticket holder. They went to the Derby game and enjoyed it at £20. They had a few beers, could leave the cars at home and enjoyed the day generally. They were up for a good few games next season, not so sure they will be at £30 plus.
Maybe not a significant area to grow a fan base but it all helps.
 
On a more serious reply - could there be a way of adopting a shared season ticket where a group of mates can agree to split the cost of an ST say 3 ways and got to matches on pre-fxture released dates so someone doesn't just bag the so called big games? Just a thought? Not an easy option admittedly!
yeh good idea. Two of my mates who live in Blackpool share a season ticket and have done for a few seasons. Blackpool as such is their second team with Sunderland being their first.
 
It literally just happened for the derby game which was a nothing game.

Its a pretty simple concept that the lower it is the more turn up.

Also its an investment in growing the fanbase too, which is for the future and can also have a huge impact on the team and performance.

The extra fans can have a big effect.
Again, you are assuming loads and it is just your opinion what will happen going forward.

I think you are missing the point I am making.

I am not saying you are right or wrong, as we do not know what would happen and neither do you.

The club have to act in a way that they think is best and analyse the consequences and then adapt.

Obviously they don’t agree with you at this point that your way is the best way forward.
 
I can afford it and i will be buying season tickets i just think the pricing wrong

Is that too difficult to understand?
You are welcome to your opinion you just have a provocative way of expressing it. The membership scheme is a good idea and gives a more reasonable match day price. It is right to have a price for this otherwise there is the possibility it will be abused by one off supporters or visiting fans. We have a limited spare capacity and segregation options compared to some of the "big" teams in The Championship. Blackpool will also attract a larger away support which takes extra policing/stewarding as we saw last season.
 
If we had a 25,000 capacity stadium some of your good ideas would be alot easier to put in place for the Club financially. Last seasons average was about 13,400. Taking account of the seats lost through segregation the ground capacity is probably not much over 15,000. So we're not far short of that.
Your average was 12,104
 
We had to give up our ST's when moving back to Cheshire for child care reasons.
We took our grandson to 4 games last season (he was free as a 4 year old but he's now 5). For various reasons we're estimating that we can take him to 3 or 4 games next season and we're trying to work out the most affordable price, as the day costs us about £100.
Attending 3 games as a member, works out the same as not being a member, which appears a bit odd.
We're still head scratching trying to work out the best option!
You will have priority with a membership in the event of a big game.
My adult son shared his Season ticket with his son (junior) for years and was never questioned at the turnstiles.
Same happens with an adult using a senior card.
 
Walk ons who might normally take in two or three 'big' games a season might now pay the £15 and come for six to ten games instead, to get their money's worth. The policy could increase support by developing a Saturday habit. If take up is low the club has the option of introducing cheaper deals later in the season, but if the team is doing well I doubt that will be necessary.
 
Walk ons who might normally take in two or three 'big' games a season might now pay the £15 and come for six to ten games instead, to get their money's worth. The policy could increase support by developing a Saturday habit. If take up is low the club has the option of introducing cheaper deals later in the season, but if the team is doing well I doubt that will be necessary.
I see your logic but the membership doesn’t have that impact, from past experience. It is only useful for those attending 4+ games.
 
You will have priority with a membership in the event of a big game.
My adult son shared his Season ticket with his son (junior) for years and was never questioned at the turnstiles.
Same happens with an adult using a senior card.
Thanks Graham.
We take the little un in the South & didn't have a problem booking three seats last season.
The policy, doesn't appear to have taken into consideration, exiles & others who, due to circumstances, can't attend many games.
The £15 (x 2 for us) makes membership the same price as booking for individual games.
We're not complaining, as the club can't cater for every scenario. It's just a matter of working out what's most cost effective for us.
 
On a more serious reply - could there be a way of adopting a shared season ticket where a group of mates can agree to split the cost of an ST say 3 ways and got to matches on pre-fxture released dates so someone doesn't just bag the so called big games? Just a thought? Not an easy option admittedly!
Surely mates can do this themselves ,draw the games out off a hat for fairness, and swap the games around if they can’t go
 
Another issue for me is the question of season ticket holders who for whatever reason can’t go to a particular match. I’m pretty sure I’ll miss three next season as I did this, and the row in front of me has seven empty seats every match, yet they’re all reserved with season tickets. I can’t understand why the club don’t have a scheme which allows you to “sell” your seat for a match you can’t attend. You get a bit and the club gets the lions share.
 
Are you OK with 32 quid POTG?

What’s your opinion on that price Scara?
Steep, so I’ll buy a season ticket and it will only cost me £16 per game, which is excellent value. If I couldn’t afford £32 a game o would have to simply pick and choose my games. That’s just the way it is. There’s lots of things I would love to do but can’t afford, so I don’t do it. Just because it’s out football club it doesn’t give us the right to tell the owner how much he should be charging. Of it doesn’t work then he will have to swallow the financial burden, not us.
 
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