Any Techies About ? I need a new laptop

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I need a new laptop ASAP but don't have a clue.

I will be using it mainly just for messing about on the net so I don't want to pay OTT for something I don't really need but I certainly want it to be quick enough.

I asked a few people who know far more than me and they suggested I'd only have to spend about £300 to get what I needed but when I look at the reviews for laptops around that price some customers complain that they are not quick enough.

Any advice appreciated and recommendation of specific offers would be great.
 
Can't go wrong with either ASUS or Lenovo. Minimum i5 or i7 processor, minimum 8g RAM and minimum 250g hard drive (500 would be better).
Hope that helps...

Thanks Bob.

I am clueless and have just been looking round the internet, there were a couple at around £250 (one ACER, one HP Pavilion) at Currys and reading the customer reviews, half said they were great for the money and half said they were too slow.

I will look at your recommendations and especially the spec.

Thanks again Bob, much appreciated.
 
Just had a quick look at ASUS and Lenovo at Currys, basically it's about £300 for 4g RAM and about £5-600 for a 8g RAM. I mainly just want to mess around on the internet (a few tabs open at the same time at the most) and maybe a little bit of work so I don't want to pay more than I need but I don't want to pay for a cheaper one only for it to be too slow on the net.

So do you think it's worth me paying £5-600 to get that 8g RAM ?
 
Do you need a brand new one?
Lots of great deals on eBay for recondition stock. Maybe they have been on display or not the latest model but they are effectively brand new. Always bought levono laptops this way.
 
As said, an i7 is preferable.
And the more ram the better. But you can often upgrade it yourself. Get the model no of one you're interested in, go to crucial.com and see if the ram can be upgraded and how much for. Then Google for a video of how to upgrade it. It's often the case of just unscrewing a small panel and clipping in a new ram module.

It's also worth looking on Dell.com for offers.

If you're not overly confident with computers, I'd stick to Windows based systems.
 
I would add that 8g of RAM should be the minimum today with memory hungry processors and operating systems (i.e. Windows 10). It's probably the sweet spot. Asus, Lenovo or Dell would be my go-to...
 
i7 is good, i5 at a pinch.

For your use, don't buy new- no need. Have a look at laptopsdirect who do refurb (others do them too, it's just I got one for the Mrs- not a bad swap- from them for 135 and it does what she wants and had it over a year now).

If your budget is £300, try to stretch to £400+ if poss. and load up the speed. An SSD would be good and I like touch too. Look at size as well, can you get away with a smaller screen?
 
i7 is good, i5 at a pinch.

For your use, don't buy new- no need. Have a look at laptopsdirect who do refurb (others do them too, it's just I got one for the Mrs- not a bad swap- from them for 135 and it does what she wants and had it over a year now).

If your budget is £300, try to stretch to £400+ if poss. and load up the speed. An SSD would be good and I like touch too. Look at size as well, can you get away with a smaller screen?


i7 is good, i5 at a pinch.

For your use, don't buy new- no need. Have a look at laptopsdirect who do refurb (others do them too, it's just I got one for the Mrs- not a bad swap- from them for 135 and it does what she wants and had it over a year now).

If your budget is £300, try to stretch to £400+ if poss. and load up the speed. An SSD would be good and I like touch too. Look at size as well, can you get away with a smaller screen?

I don't need new and I don't have too limited a budget.

It's just that I am totally clueless and don't want to pay £500 to a cowboy refurbishing output who'd have accepted £250 from somebody that knew their onions.

All I really want is for the internet not to be too slow.

One like your wife got sounds perfect but she might not use the net as much as me and she might not be bothered about slow internet.
 
I need a new laptop ASAP but don't have a clue.

I will be using it mainly just for messing about on the net so I don't want to pay OTT for something I don't really need but I certainly want it to be quick enough.

I asked a few people who know far more than me and they suggested I'd only have to spend about £300 to get what I needed but when I look at the reviews for laptops around that price some customers complain that they are not quick enough.

Any advice appreciated and recommendation of specific offers would be great.
Having finished work & handing back my Apple laptop, our domestic IT use was similar to yours.
We went to Curry's and for our needs, we were advised to buy an 'Acer chromebook' at a very reasonable price (around £200) and we've never regretted it. It's easy to get your head around and does everything we require & more.
Go and have a demo and good luck.
 
I need a new laptop ASAP but don't have a clue.

I will be using it mainly just for messing about on the net so I don't want to pay OTT for something I don't really need but I certainly want it to be quick enough.

I asked a few people who know far more than me and they suggested I'd only have to spend about £300 to get what I needed but when I look at the reviews for laptops around that price some customers complain that they are not quick enough.

Any advice appreciated and recommendation of specific offers would be great.

Chromebook if you're just browsing. I've had them for years. They just work.
 
Another option is to go into a computer repair shop, tell them what you want and get then to quote for building it for you. No point in paying for stuff you don't need, Elm computes on Cookson St is a place I've dealt with years ago and they seemed OK. As was the place St Andrews Rd St Annes.
 
I don't need new and I don't have too limited a budget.

It's just that I am totally clueless and don't want to pay £500 to a cowboy refurbishing output who'd have accepted £250 from somebody that knew their onions.

All I really want is for the internet not to be too slow.

One like your wife got sounds perfect but she might not use the net as much as me and she might not be bothered about slow internet.
Wife's is slowish, but it's an i3.
 
I need a new laptop ASAP but don't have a clue.

I will be using it mainly just for messing about on the net so I don't want to pay OTT for something I don't really need but I certainly want it to be quick enough.

I asked a few people who know far more than me and they suggested I'd only have to spend about £300 to get what I needed but when I look at the reviews for laptops around that price some customers complain that they are not quick enough.

Any advice appreciated and recommendation of specific offers would be great.

I'll try to give an unbiased explanation of Chromebooks. I've owned 3 and my partner has had 3 as well. I 'have' a pc and a mac as well and several tablets (my job requires me to test things, so they aren't mine...) - I'm pretty tech savvy and I choose to use my Chromebook for 95% of the time. Since lockdown I've not opened the PC aside from to test if something worked and only used the Mac to edit some video (I could have done it on the chromebook, but was in a rush and needed to do it quickly with software I was familiar with)

Pros:
Start up VERY quick. All the time. The way updates work mean you NEVER get 'hang on Window/MacOS wants to install an update, come back in a week' messages. Ever.

They're very simple machines. Every one I've bought has worked till the end of it's reasonably expected life and could have been fixed if it was worth it. I.e. the ribbon connecting the innards to screen gave out on one. I could have replaced it but it was seven years old...

Because they are cloud based, you don't need a lot of storage. This means when you get a new computer, you just log in and all your old stuff is there. If storage is a concern, you just pop in an SD card (I bought a 256gb one for £25 quid t'other day...)

Google Apps are generally very good. I really like them. I never, ever use Word, PPT etc anymore. I can see why someone writing a very specialist document might need them but I write a lot of stuff and find absolutely no need. They are 100% free - all you pay for is additional storage in Google Drive and tbh, if all you need to store is documents, you won't need it. I have it, but I've got lots of audio and video files in mine.

You can install Android apps on them. This isn't perfect, but you can usually find an app to do what chrome OS doesn't do. OR a browser based task. I've recorded music, edited video and so on, things that people say 'Chromebooks 'can't do'' - they can. I've recorded music I on a £200 chromebook and it's been fine. Not as good as a £2500 macbook pro, but for what I needed... perfectly fine. I've got Lightroom for photos, Pixlr for Photoshop type stuff and so on.

They are so simple. That sounds bad. It's good. I was a massive fan of Apple stuff and I think Chromebooks have the vibe that mac stuff had back in the day. You open the box, plug it in. Log on and then it's ready. Nothing else. No maintainence, no installing anti virus software, no defragging hard drives etc.

4gb of ram will go further on Chromebook. The operating system is much lighter than MacOS and Windows. I have an 8gb i5 chromebook (a fancy one) and it is lightning. It is WAY faster than the equivalent windows machine with same hardware as the OS asks virtually nothing of the ram/processor. It also comes with a stylus and touchscreen that is almost perfect.

They don't slow down. It will work at the same speed the last day you use it as the first.

If you have an issue 'a powerwash' can sort it out in about 5 minutes. So much easier than reinstalling on other systems.

Cons:
Don't get an old one! Some old ones were underpowered and you only get 6 years worth of updates (8 with newer ones)

At the lowest end, don't expect amazing build quality. Then again, that's as true of anything other than a Mac and they don't have a low end. You get what you pay for in build quality. As I say, I've had 6 and only one has not been budget. All of them lasted well beyond my expectations and if you can look after it, it will last.

There are times I go 'I wish it did that...' - one is running Audacity (sound editing software) - but that's fairly niche. Occaisionaly the simplicity of the OS is annoying. (file browsing/storage is VERY basic) - however, again, these are occaisional things.

If you don't embrace the cloud then they are confusing machines. I know people who had a chromebook given to them at work but refused to store files in the cloud because 'it's not secure' - that's a nonsense, (if you do it properly) but people are set in their ways...

The bottom end price is perfect for browsing and a bit of youtube or music in the background. Asking it to do a lot more will make it slow. It'll try but it won't be smooth experience. Mine is £600 and I've never experienced any lag and I often have literally about 45 tabs open in multiple windows and doing lots of stuff.

You are signing up for a 'google life' and all the data stuff that means. To be honest, lots of people use google on their PC anyway and I don't think that using it on a Chromebook is particularly worse.

Can be limited in how they support peripherals. So if you have an old printer, your Chromebook might not play with it. New stuff is usually fine.

Overall:

They're perfect if you don't have specialist usage needs (i.e. a pro photographer or specific software needed for IT stuff or something like that) - they're dead cheap and simple. I'm not on commission - It's just what I use and I use a lot of computers.
 
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important you need ssd windows 10 is design to work on ssd sale people are happy to sell off the old stuff first.
difference between hard drives and solid state drives is in the technology used to store and retrieve data. ... HDDs are cheaper and you can get more storage space. SSDs, however, are faster, lighter, more durable, and use less energy. Your needs will dictate which storage drive will work best for you.
 
there is some good advice on here but you do not need an i5 or an i7 if all you want to do is browse the Internet.

Halifax's suggestion to look at the Techradar link is good. Also look at the refurbished stock, I have an i3 Lenovo with SSD that I got for £200 about 2 years ago
 
Have a look at Tecobuy. They are based in Hong Kong and have slow deliveries- mind you there was Covid and riots going on- but the gear and prices are unbeatable. I bought a new DSLR at about 55% of the cost of the model in John Lewis and about 65% in photographic shops
 
Really appreciate all the advice lads.

td53 - That is really thorough, I might not understand it all but thanks for your efforts and I will try and digest it all.
 
Having finished work & handing back my Apple laptop, our domestic IT use was similar to yours.
We went to Curry's and for our needs, we were advised to buy an 'Acer chromebook' at a very reasonable price (around £200) and we've never regretted it. It's easy to get your head around and does everything we require & more.
Go and have a demo and good luck.

Brett - That sounds great and cheap.

As I will mainly just be messing on the net, you don't have any issues with the speed if you have a few tabs open ?

If not, I think I'm off to Curry's in the morning.
 
Brett - That sounds great and cheap.

As I will mainly just be messing on the net, you don't have any issues with the speed if you have a few tabs open ?

If not, I think I'm off to Curry's in the morning.

In a word: no.

Just double check it's got 4gb of RAM and you'll be fine. It almost certainly will have.

(Sorry, I jumped on the post for Brett. My other half has an almost identical machine to what you're looking at and it's grand. No issues at all with speed for that type of use)
 
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If you’re just browsing mostly, do you need a laptop? One of the bigger screen iPads / tablets will do most of the job.
Also worth looking at refurbished via Tesco and Argos outlets on eBay- I’ve used Tesco loads of times as they come with decent warranties.
 
In a word: no.

Just double check it's got 4gb of RAM and you'll be fine. It almost certainly will have.

(Sorry, I jumped on the post for Brett. My other half has an almost identical machine to what you're looking at and it's grand. No issues at all with speed for that type of use)

td53

I am cream crackered right this now but I will look at that first thing in the morning.

I am going to look at everything tomorrow and get things sorted, can't thank you enough for all your advice.
 
If you’re just browsing mostly, do you need a laptop? One of the bigger screen iPads / tablets will do most of the job.
Also worth looking at refurbished via Tesco and Argos outlets on eBay- I’ve used Tesco loads of times as they come with decent warranties.

I'm mostly browsing but will use it for doing some emailing and a bit of work and I've been using both my knackered tablet and a borrowed laptop and much prefer the laptop.

I will look at the refurbishments you suggest in the morning Aggro, thanks for all of your advice.
 
I use old stuff and buy 2nd hand as long as you have an ssd and adequate ram you will be fine dont worry about processor i have i3 and i5 still work well for browsing and most other stuff.
Just upgraded a family members almost 12 year old laptop to win 10 with an ssd and 4gb ram and it still works fine for web browsing and is quick enough for him. I checked with a good few tabs open and 4gb still wasnt all being used. 8gb is better and what i use on mine but tbh not really needed.

Edit: just read td53s post on chromebooks and that may suit your needs.
I use windows for certain software but most people likely dont need it.
 
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Get a refurbished/second hand MacAir

I got a brilliant 11 inch one that was great as it was so portable Think it cost around £300

Work gave me a MacBook Pro so my daughter now has it

My lad just sold a 2012 MacBook Pro for £300. The old ones are a bit heavy but a great piece of kit

Mac’s don’t age like others
 
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Get a refurbished/second hand MacAir

I got a brilliant 11 inch one that was great as it was so portable Think it cost around £300

Work gave me a MacBook Pro so my daughter now has it

My lad just sold a 2012 MacBook Pro for £300. The old ones are a bit heavy but a great piece of kit

Mac’s don’t age like others

They don't but you run into issues eventually updating the OS. I have a 2011 mpb and it's struggling with Catalina and it has an SSD and 16gb ram. Catalina also rendered chucks of the software unusable. Thanks apple!

Still a lovely machine and I'd love a brand new one but not enough to pay 5 times the price of my Chromebook which in *some* ways does more.

Macs are beautiful things.
 
I'll try to give an unbiased explanation of Chromebooks. I've owned 3 and my partner has had 3 as well. I 'have' a pc and a mac as well and several tablets (my job requires me to test things, so they aren't mine...) - I'm pretty tech savvy and I choose to use my Chromebook for 95% of the time. Since lockdown I've not opened the PC aside from to test if something worked and only used the Mac to edit some video (I could have done it on the chromebook, but was in a rush and needed to do it quickly with software I was familiar with)

Pros:
Start up VERY quick. All the time. The way updates work mean you NEVER get 'hang on Window/MacOS wants to install an update, come back in a week' messages. Ever.

They're very simple machines. Every one I've bought has worked till the end of it's reasonably expected life and could have been fixed if it was worth it. I.e. the ribbon connecting the innards to screen gave out on one. I could have replaced it but it was seven years old...

Because they are cloud based, you don't need a lot of storage. This means when you get a new computer, you just log in and all your old stuff is there. If storage is a concern, you just pop in an SD card (I bought a 256gb one for £25 quid t'other day...)

Google Apps are generally very good. I really like them. I never, ever use Word, PPT etc anymore. I can see why someone writing a very specialist document might need them but I write a lot of stuff and find absolutely no need. They are 100% free - all you pay for is additional storage in Google Drive and tbh, if all you need to store is documents, you won't need it. I have it, but I've got lots of audio and video files in mine.

You can install Android apps on them. This isn't perfect, but you can usually find an app to do what chrome OS doesn't do. OR a browser based task. I've recorded music, edited video and so on, things that people say 'Chromebooks 'can't do'' - they can. I've recorded music I on a £200 chromebook and it's been fine. Not as good as a £2500 macbook pro, but for what I needed... perfectly fine. I've got Lightroom for photos, Pixlr for Photoshop type stuff and so on.

They are so simple. That sounds bad. It's good. I was a massive fan of Apple stuff and I think Chromebooks have the vibe that mac stuff had back in the day. You open the box, plug it in. Log on and then it's ready. Nothing else. No maintainence, no installing anti virus software, no defragging hard drives etc.

4gb of ram will go further on Chromebook. The operating system is much lighter than MacOS and Windows. I have an 8gb i5 chromebook (a fancy one) and it is lightning. It is WAY faster than the equivalent windows machine with same hardware as the OS asks virtually nothing of the ram/processor. It also comes with a stylus and touchscreen that is almost perfect.

They don't slow down. It will work at the same speed the last day you use it as the first.

If you have an issue 'a powerwash' can sort it out in about 5 minutes. So much easier than reinstalling on other systems.

Cons:
Don't get an old one! Some old ones were underpowered and you only get 6 years worth of updates (8 with newer ones)

At the lowest end, don't expect amazing build quality. Then again, that's as true of anything other than a Mac and they don't have a low end. You get what you pay for in build quality. As I say, I've had 6 and only one has not been budget. All of them lasted well beyond my expectations and if you can look after it, it will last.

There are times I go 'I wish it did that...' - one is running Audacity (sound editing software) - but that's fairly niche. Occaisionaly the simplicity of the OS is annoying. (file browsing/storage is VERY basic) - however, again, these are occaisional things.

If you don't embrace the cloud then they are confusing machines. I know people who had a chromebook given to them at work but refused to store files in the cloud because 'it's not secure' - that's a nonsense, (if you do it properly) but people are set in their ways...

The bottom end price is perfect for browsing and a bit of youtube or music in the background. Asking it to do a lot more will make it slow. It'll try but it won't be smooth experience. Mine is £600 and I've never experienced any lag and I often have literally about 45 tabs open in multiple windows and doing lots of stuff.

You are signing up for a 'google life' and all the data stuff that means. To be honest, lots of people use google on their PC anyway and I don't think that using it on a Chromebook is particularly worse.

Can be limited in how they support peripherals. So if you have an old printer, your Chromebook might not play with it. New stuff is usually fine.

Overall:

They're perfect if you don't have specialist usage needs (i.e. a pro photographer or specific software needed for IT stuff or something like that) - they're dead cheap and simple. I'm not on commission - It's just what I use and I use a lot of computers.
Excellent overview you should come and work for Google!
 
Get a refurbished/second hand MacAir

I got a brilliant 11 inch one that was great as it was so portable Think it cost around £300

Work gave me a MacBook Pro so my daughter now has it

My lad just sold a 2012 MacBook Pro for £300. The old ones are a bit heavy but a great piece of kit

Mac’s don’t age like others

would also agree with this- I went over to Apple over a decade ago and wouldn’t go back. I’m on my second MB pro (refurbished from eBay) that’s lasted 5 years of heavy word processing, sound editing, video streaming, downloading and before I did a phd, football manager (sometimes running 24/7 on holiday mode) The refurb Air’s can be picked up more reasonably priced and might suit what you want.
 
Brett - That sounds great and cheap.

As I will mainly just be messing on the net, you don't have any issues with the speed if you have a few tabs open ?

If not, I think I'm off to Curry's in the morning.
No issues for us when we were in B'pool or now in Cheshire. But I have to admit that I don't understand the Rams bit so be guided by the good advice from 53
 
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