Blackpool are preparing a ‘significant’ offer for Embleton

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Elliot Embleton helped Blackpool win the play-off final at Wembley at the weekend

Elliot Embleton helped Blackpool win the play-off final at Wembley at the weekend


BLACKPOOL are ready to test Sunderland’s resolve to hold on to Elliot Embleton by tabling a formal offer for the promotion-winning midfielder.
Embleton was a member of the Blackpool side that won promotion to the Championship via the League One play-off final on Sunday, having moved to Bloomfield Road on loan in January.
The 22-year-old played a key role in the Seasiders’ success in the second half of the season, making 21 appearances in all competitions and scoring two goals.
His loan spell expired when the final whistle blew at Wembley, and both Sunderland sporting director Kristjaan Speakman and head coach Lee Johnson have publicly insisted that the Durham-born midfielder will be returning to the Academy of Light for pre-season training and playing a central role in the Black Cats’ first-team squad next season.

However, with promotion to the Championship providing Blackpool with an immediate financial boost of around £6m, Seasiders boss Neil Critchley has instructed his club’s board to do all they can to secure Embleton’s services on a permanent basis this summer.

Blackpool are preparing what is being described as a ‘significant’ offer for the midfielder, and are clearly hoping Sunderland’s failure to get out of League One will tempt them to cash in on their brightest young talent.
Under the previous regime, led by Stewart Donald, the Black Cats sold off a succession of talented youngsters, often before they had even come close to realising their full potential on Wearside.

However rebuffing a seven-figure offer from Blackpool would be a powerful statement of intent, and Johnson clearly intends to make Embleton, who can play in a wide attacking-midfield position or as a number ten, an integral part of next season's squad.
 
Anyone else feel slightly uncomfortable about how players become commodities? First and foremost the player should be asked what he wants and where he wants to play. If that is at Blackpool then let fair negotiations begin. I can't help with Embo, it's like the person who cast aside something, found out it's valuable and suddenly wants an inflated view for him.
 
An insignificant offer would do it as they are broke. I don't believe they have any resolve to hold onto him. They gave him a new contract to make us pay a fee if we want him.

Seven figures!? You cannot be serious! 🤣 Did Embleton's agent write this?
 
Makes sense, Keshi was audibly saying to Embleton in an EFL video they put on: "sign the thing Embo, sign the thing" whilst waiting for the trophy lift. Clearly word around the club that something is in the pipeline for him to be saying that.

He is only young, I'm a fan even though there was an inconsistency to his performances at times, but there is clearly a player in there and with more experience under his belt the inconsistency would decrease - I felt he was instrumental in our up-turn in attacking play from the 2nd half at Burton.

Surely as Sunderland though you'd be wanting to keep hold of him with his now successful League One play-off experience. I doubt we're offering upwards of a million either.
 
I rate Embo and think he'd be a great addition, but anywhere north of 250k would be outrageous for a player with only 1 year left and Sunderland are absolute bellends for thinking he's worth 7 figures.

Sunderland acting like the big boys again, despite the fact that they're going to be spending their FOURTH straight season in League 1. They have to realize that when Championship teams come in for their best players, they are the ones who don't have the power in negotiations, we are.

Bid 250k (400k if Critchley really wants him and Sadler is willing to push the boat a little bit), but if Sunderland don't budge then leave it be.

Let Embo stay with them for another year and then come back in for him again next Summer when he's out of contract.
 
I think Critch sees a lot more to come from Embo and rates him highly, being 22 he has plenty of development to go. Think Critch said he was the most two-footed player he's ever worked with. I think this could result in quite a significant bid for him but would agree that anything over 500k is a risk, he could be worth well more than that in years to come but it's not certain. It all depends on how much 500k is to Simon Sadler and the club now we're in the championship.
 
Dougall said:
Anyone else feel slightly uncomfortable about how players become commodities? First and foremost the player should be asked what he wants and where he wants to play. If that is at Blackpool then let fair negotiations begin. I can't help with Embo, it's like the person who cast aside something, found out it's valuable and suddenly wants an inflated view for him.
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It's even worse when they wrangle over money when it's a 9 year old academy child.
 
I think he fits the bill of a young player who could be sold on at a profit in the future. More to come from him I reckon, he's only just starting out, never got two consecutive starts at Sunderland I think. Hasty judgement again I think, we haven't seen the full potential yet. Critch is a very good judge of young players.
 
voyeur said:
I think he fits the bill of a young player who could be sold on at a profit in the future. More to come from him I reckon, he's only just starting out, never got two consecutive starts at Sunderland I think. Hasty judgement again I think, we haven't seen the full potential yet. Critch is a very good judge of young players.
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As far as Sunderland are concerned, it looks like a buyer's market. I'd be amazed if he commands a seven figure fee, he isn't good enough or experienced enough - yet - to justify anything like it.
 
This throws up an interesting more general side angle. How much experience have we got in playing hardball in the transfer market?

ignoring all the usual quotes and figures and media bolox. We're going to come up against a lot of management who've been round the block more than once where dealing with transfers is concerned.

I agree with everyone above who says we shouldn't be paying too much for Elliott, if indeed it gets that far. Obviously no secret that NC wants him and Simon will be keen to support. So will we start low and test the water, or go straight in at 750-1m?

The way we handle Elliott's transfer, if it happens, will I think tell us the answers to how effective and savvy we're going to be in the market.
 
AmericanTangerine said:
I rate Embo and think he'd be a great addition, but anywhere north of 250k would be outrageous for a player with only 1 year left and Sunderland are absolute bellends for thinking he's worth 7 figures.

Sunderland acting like the big boys again, despite the fact that they're going to be spending their FOURTH straight season in League 1. They have to realize that when Championship teams come in for their best players, they are the ones who don't have the power in negotiations, we are.

Bid 250k (400k if Critchley really wants him and Sadler is willing to push the boat a little bit), but if Sunderland don't budge then leave it be.

Let Embo stay with them for another year and then come back in for him again next Summer when he's out of contract.
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Bid 100k max
If Sunderland rated him above that they would not have loaned him out and then released all the players they played in his position. They signed a contract for 1 year only to get a bit of dosh, I do not think many other Championship clubs will come in for him
 
I think we perhaps need to be realistic.

Embleton has represented England from under-17 to under-20 level. In May 2017, Embleton (aged 18) was included in an England U20 squad for the 2017 Toulon Tournament. He scored in the semi-final against Scotland. In the final, Embleton converted his penalty during the shoot-out as England defeated Ivory Coast to win the tournament.

National team
2015–2016 England U17 11 (1)
2016–2017 England U18 10 (0)
2017–2018 England U19 13 (4)
2017–2019 England U20 10 (2)
 
CGP1 said:
This throws up an interesting more general side angle. How much experience have we got in playing hardball in the transfer market?

ignoring all the usual quotes and figures and media bolox. We're going to come up against a lot of management who've been round the block more than once where dealing with transfers is concerned.

I agree with everyone above who says we shouldn't be paying too much for Elliott, if indeed it gets that far. Obviously no secret that NC wants him and Simon will be keen to support. So will we start low and test the water, or go straight in at 750-1m?

The way we handle Elliott's transfer, if it happens, will I think tell us the answers to how effective and savvy we're going to be in the market.
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None at football.

But you can bet your bottom dollar a man who has made a fortune running hedge funds worth £billions will squeeze them til the pips squeak.
 
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500k absolute max for me. Crazy to be talking of seven figure sums at this stage especially as it would just up the price of any other potential targets.
 
tangysider said:
Bid 100k max
If Sunderland rated him above that they would not have loaned him out and then released all the players they played in his position. They signed a contract for 1 year only to get a bit of dosh, I do not think many other Championship clubs will come in for him
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Agree I wouldn’t pay more than 100k. He’s ok quite quick feet but I don’t know away at the big physical teams you get in the Championship I suspect he’d be on the missing list. Likewise Kai Kai and Anderson if I’m honest.
 
Memphisboy said:
Agree I wouldn’t pay more than 100k. He’s ok quite quick feet but I don’t know away at the big physical teams you get in the Championship I suspect he’d be on the missing list. Likewise Kai Kai and Anderson if I’m honest.
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Cant argue with one word of that.
 
He's been good, at times brilliant. I don't think I would have put him in the category of "sign at all costs" though, if I'm honest. I haven't yet seen him play and thought that he should really be playing in the league above, unlike others like Dougall and Yates. There have been games where he has been quite anonymous and that makes me wonder whether he will immediately be able to consistently impose himself on better quality defences. I'm not saying he doesn't have the ability to develop into a Championship player in time, but if we're paying a large fee I would definitely wonder whether he's the best value we can get.
 
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TS yes fully agree. That's my hope too, but we're an unproven theory at this point, so let's see what happens!
 
Is anybody else in for him, is he going to sign a new contract with Sunderland?
Both massive factors in how much he will cost. If the answer is no to both then he will cost a lot less than £1,000,000.
 
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I must admit I disagree with the general consensus on here because I rate the lad highly and think anything below £1 million would be a bit of a steal. Young, two footed, technically very very good. Has a strike on him and reads the game well whilst getting into good and dangerous positions between the lines. There’s a good reason he’s been in the England set up at pretty much every age group and there’s a good reason Critch brought him in.
There a lot more to come from him, his value is likely to increase and he may well want to be here a great deal. Plus worth noting that the Chanpionship suits technically better players a lot more than League 1. You only have to look at GTF and any number of our Premier League squad to see how they developed and grew playing against better quality opponents.
 
It occurs to me that he may be a different player in training, confident and eager to risk with the through balls, and Critch's the one that can see that, that's why he's insisting. Probs a 6 figure offer with add ons that take it to 7 figures but still risky
 
voyeur said:
I think we perhaps need to be realistic.

Embleton has represented England from under-17 to under-20 level. In May 2017, Embleton (aged 18) was included in an England U20 squad for the 2017 Toulon Tournament. He scored in the semi-final against Scotland. In the final, Embleton converted his penalty during the shoot-out as England defeated Ivory Coast to win the tournament.

National team
2015–2016 England U17 11 (1)
2016–2017 England U18 10 (0)
2017–2018 England U19 13 (4)
2017–2019 England U20 10 (2)
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Regardless of his past success he wasn’t deemed good enough to play in the first team at Sunderland, 350k maximum for me, obviously with add on’s good deal for both clubs
 
coppiceman said:
As far as Sunderland are concerned, it looks like a buyer's market. I'd be amazed if he commands a seven figure fee, he isn't good enough or experienced enough - yet - to justify anything like it.
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I don't know what price he will go for. I just think some people are under rating him, and some are stuck in the 80s with regards to prices. It's £4.80 a pint around where I live now.
 
A tough one. He's certainly not totally convinced me that he's good enough.But that's it with a lot of young players, they take time to develop and sometimes not all of them do. But when it comes down to it, we have to rightly trust Critchley and if he wants him and he considers him good enough then that's fine. What he's worth now and what he may be worth in a couple of years could be a big difference.
 
WolvoSeasider said:
He's been good, at times brilliant. I don't think I would have put him in the category of "sign at all costs" though, if I'm honest. I haven't yet seen him play and thought that he should really be playing in the league above, unlike others like Dougall and Yates. There have been games where he has been quite anonymous and that makes me wonder whether he will immediately be able to consistently impose himself on better quality defences. I'm not saying he doesn't have the ability to develop into a Championship player in time, but if we're paying a large fee I would definitely wonder whether he's the best value we can get.
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Exactly how i feel about him and one good game and one very good goal should not cloud peoples rating of him.

As stated in Wovo's he is missing (and not) in action for far too many games.
 
Simonized said:
Exactly how i feel about him and one good game and one very good goal should not cloud peoples rating of him.

As stated in Wovo's he is missing (and not) in action for far too many games.
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Far too many? He's only been around for a short time. 15 starts? He's a young lad just getting started. A young lad with a lot of England caps at u17, U18, U19 and u20 level. And ability that we have already seen. We will gradually see more if it. If he signs.

I wonder what some people are doing watching football sometimes... !
 
The amount of times Critchley has played Embleton ought to tell everyone how highly rated he is. I’m sure there will be a limit but he is a key player to lock into the club longer term I would have thought. And £500,000 might be peanuts for Sadlers ambition. We just don’t know. I’m still reliving his wonder strike from the semi. That’s good enough for me.
 
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