Blackpool fc 2007 v Blackpool fc 2020

BpoolFred34

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Was just looking at the team which beat Yeovil back in 2007 compared to the team we have now and trying to decide which team would win.

Blackpool fc 2007
Rachubka
Barker, Jackson, Evatt, William's
Forbes Fox, Jorgensen, Southern, Hoolahan
Vernon, Parker, Gillett, Morrell.

Blackpool 2020.
Maxwell
Husband, Thorniley, Nottingham, Mitchell, Turton, Marv, Garbutt
Ward, William's, Robson, Kaikai, virtue, Kemp, Hamilrton
Sarkic, Keshi, Yates, Madine.
 
Early in the 2006/07 season we swapped and changed a bit. Remember Gillett and the two defenders from Stoke? Also, we didn't get the left back, Robbie Williams until quite late in the season. So, the question is better asked at the end of this season.
as for strikers, Morrell and Parker would knock the socks off anything our lads are currently offering. It doesn't mean our current crop will not improve.
 
Barker, Jackson, Evatt, Southern, Hoolahan and Morrell were all better than anything we currently have.
Like Wiz says, it's a bit too early to compare.

Barker - Mitchell/Gabriel Not sure yet. These two need a little time.
Jackson - we don't have his ilk, Marv is improving but doesn't have the experience/leadership
Evatt - better than what we have now at LCB for sure
Southern - I think Robson is better personally.
Hoolahan - nothing comparable or as good now
Morrell - CJ Very different players, but both very effective. Toss up.
 
Like Wiz says, it's a bit too early to compare.

Barker - Mitchell/Gabriel Not sure yet. These two need a little time.
Jackson - we don't have his ilk, Marv is improving but doesn't have the experience/leadership
Evatt - better than what we have now at LCB for sure
Southern - I think Robson is better personally.
Hoolahan - nothing comparable or as good now
Morrell - CJ Very different players, but both very effective. Toss up.
Southern played in the Prem and held his own and was standout in the Championship, you can't compare the 2 I'm afraid. If we are saying does Robson have the potential to be as good as Southern, I wouldn't argue. Given the choice of a 2007 Southern or Robson, it is an easy one for me.
 
Southern played in the Prem and held his own and was standout in the Championship, you can't compare the 2 I'm afraid. If we are saying does Robson have the potential to be as good as Southern, I wouldn't argue. Given the choice of a 2007 Southern or Robson, it is an easy one for me.
Well I actually disagree, but respect what you are saying. Robson has a lot more to his game. Clearly. Southern was not a regular choice in the prem at all. And Robson looks Championship ready to me already. Southern was a fantastic driving force, a big hearted player, but Robson has much more to his game. Good defensively, great passer of the ball, and will get goals if allowed to get forward.
 
Well I actually disagree, but respect what you are saying. Robson has a lot more to his game. Clearly. Southern was not a regular choice in the prem at all. And Robson looks Championship ready to me already. Southern was a fantastic driving force, a big hearted player, but Robson has much more to his game. Good defensively, great passer of the ball, and will get goals if allowed to get forward.
Ditto, for the record I think Robson could well be our best bit of business this summer. He looks a complete player but that is only based on a handful of games. Hopefully he continues in this vein. I'm excited about the potential of this side but think we could really do with someone like Gnashers to really galvanise us in the tougher matches.
 
Ditto, for the record I think Robson could well be our best bit of business this summer. He looks a complete player but that is only based on a handful of games. Hopefully he continues in this vein. I'm excited about the potential of this side but think we could really do with someone like Gnashers to really galvanise us in the tougher matches.
A good point, well made. Robson and Southern would be a fantastic pairing. Robson is more Charlie than Gnashers, in truth. In the way he plays.
 
The main difference for me is that the 2007 team had a settled core and were therefore able to perform at their best. The current side needs time to develop.
Rachubka, Barker, Jackson, Evatt, Forbes, Jorgensen, Hoolahan, Morrell, Burgess all joined in summer 2006 and Williams and Fox during the season. They only became a settled team throughout the season
 
One win from 3....
and some people get carried away...
If we’d won all 3...
Some would have been saying CJ was superior to Sir Stanley
 
Interesting going back to this thread from October - wonder how well this comment has stood the test of time.

Barker, Jackson, Evatt, Southern, Hoolahan and Morrell were all better than anything we currently have.
 
Wes and maybe Morrell aside they would give 2007 a game, I think , Wes would probably be the difference though.

Though I was watching highlights of Garbutt in the Europa league for Everton keeping De Bruyne in his pocket, we have some real quality defensively especially but Wes + Parker in form and Morrell (who had already scored about 44 one season for Wrexham before he joined us) would score more than one in their "perfect 10" pomp.
 
Still 2007 for me but...there's a catch. I truly believe that if this side gets promoted and they can stay together, I think our current squad will handle the Championship better than our 2007 lads.
 
Early in the 2006/07 season we swapped and changed a bit. Remember Gillett and the two defenders from Stoke? Also, we didn't get the left back, Robbie Williams until quite late in the season. So, the question is better asked at the end of this season.
as for strikers, Morrell and Parker would knock the socks off anything our lads are currently offering. It doesn't mean our current crop will not improve.
Morrell and Parker would knock the socks off anything our lads are currently offering. It doesn't mean our current crop will not improve.

Parker was shit and champagne.
How many chances did he have in the semis against Oldham?
Yet the goal he scored in the final was sublime 👍🏻

However, I'd have loved to have seen a fantasy Morrell and Yates play together!
 
I think some are perhaps underestimating our current team to be honest. We were only three points off the total we got in 2007. I would say only Hoolahan, Southern and Evatt were clear standouts of that 2006 side that would walk in to our team now.
 
I think some are perhaps underestimating our current team to be honest. We were only three points off the total we got in 2007. I would say only Hoolahan, Southern and Evatt were clear standouts of that 2006 side that would walk in to our team now.
Fair shout. Barker?
 
Fair shout. Barker?
Yes, at right back, I missed him off for some reason.

I think the squad we have now is better than the 06/07 squad, but the team isn't quite as good largely because of Hoolahan who was comfortably the best player in the league that year.

The difference is, I wouldn't like to say who our best player is now. If you take any of them out, there's a replacement that's good enough pretty much.
 
Yes, at right back, I missed him off for some reason.

I think the squad we have now is better than the 06/07 squad, but the team isn't quite as good largely because of Hoolahan who was comfortably the best player in the league that year.

The difference is, I wouldn't like to say who our best player is now. If you take any of them out, there's a replacement that's good enough pretty much.
I'll turn it on its head. Man for man, 2006/07 look better. But our current organisation, willpower and determination are better than the former team. How that works in any comparison, I can't truly say.
 
I'll turn it on its head. Man for man, 2006/07 look better. But our current organisation, willpower and determination are better than the former team. How that works in any comparison, I can't truly say.
It's certainly an interesting, and tough, comparison. Then you also have to say in terms of what they achieved (and therefore an indication of their quality), was a league where Yeovil finished in the top six and Scunny finished champions as competitive as the league this year? We've finished above some big clubs this season.

The very fact we're realistically comparing today's side against that fantastic 2006 side is great to be honest.
 
Different teams and different eras

I do think this team if it stays together and a bit more experience could match that 2007 one - if Joe Hart had stayed a little longer we’d have gone up in 2007-08 ! And Hoolahan stayed, Parker stayed focused and Morrell not retired

though we won our first Championship match 1-0 at Leicester I remember thinking we’d be doing well with this team but we did and learnt fast
 
I think it would be a great game.

As the kids say Prime 2007 (probably away v Swansea) v Prime 2021 (not yet achieved) would be an absolute belter.
 
One difference between the two teams is the perfect ten. That was a team that was functioning so well it was brimming with confidence and sweeping teams aside. We've not had that this season, we've been grinding out results on the basis of a miserly defence. Barker Jackson Evatt were all excellent though and probably better than what we have now, notwithstanding the excellence of Ballard - and Ekpiteta earlier in the season. Dougall would get in that 2007 side surely. Garbutt would get in. And Yates and Simms are both better finishers than Parker. Hart was a shortish loan so I'll leave him out of a combined XI...

Maxwell
Barker Ballard/Jackson Evatt Garbutt
Southern Dougall Wes
Morrell Simms Yates

I can't split Jackson and Ballard. 12 players, 6 from each side. If it was 442 I'd say Ward and Jorgensen would be evenly matched and I'd keep Morrell in, so Yates or Simms would have to go.
 
Well I actually disagree, but respect what you are saying. Robson has a lot more to his game. Clearly. Southern was not a regular choice in the prem at all. And Robson looks Championship ready to me already. Southern was a fantastic driving force, a big hearted player, but Robson has much more to his game. Good defensively, great passer of the ball, and will get goals if allowed to get forward.
Looking back, this was an interesting thread. Robson hasn't come on as expected but Kenny Dougall is in the Southern mould.

Think you're harsh on Southern btw. He didn't play as much as he could because of injury, not selection. When he came back into the side we started winning again after a dodgy March/early April.
 
Looking back, this was an interesting thread. Robson hasn't come on as expected but Kenny Dougall is in the Southern mould.

Think you're harsh on Southern btw. He didn't play as much as he could because of injury, not selection. When he came back into the side we started winning again after a dodgy March/early April.
Maybe, I was a big fan of Gnashers though, as described in that post, a driving force in the side, especially in League One and the Championship. He just seemed to have less impact in the Prem, to me, didn't we re-jig without him? First half of the season was Adam, Vaughan and Grandin mostly, iirc? Perhaps I'm remembering that wrong. I didn't get to see a full 90 minutes on a regular basis though. If I had we would have stayed up, cos I never saw us lose a game I went to. W4 D2 L0.
 
Barker, Jackson, Evatt, Southern, Hoolahan and Morrell were all better than anything we currently have.
Not sure I entirely agree.
Barker (imho) was the best defender I have ever seen in Tangerine.
Wes was.....well....a magician. So, again I’m struggling to think of anyone better at doing what he did.
The others were very good but honest, workmanlike types. Very rarely did they let themselves or the team down. We’ve had a fair few that fitted that category. Peter Clarke (1st stint), Scott Taylor, Brett.
We all have our favourites.
 
One difference between the two teams is the perfect ten. That was a team that was functioning so well it was brimming with confidence and sweeping teams aside. We've not had that this season, we've been grinding out results on the basis of a miserly defence. Barker Jackson Evatt were all excellent though and probably better than what we have now, notwithstanding the excellence of Ballard - and Ekpiteta earlier in the season. Dougall would get in that 2007 side surely. Garbutt would get in. And Yates and Simms are both better finishers than Parker. Hart was a shortish loan so I'll leave him out of a combined XI...

Maxwell
Barker Ballard/Jackson Evatt Garbutt
Southern Dougall Wes
Morrell Simms Yates

I can't split Jackson and Ballard. 12 players, 6 from each side. If it was 442 I'd say Ward and Jorgensen would be evenly matched and I'd keep Morrell in, so Yates or Simms would have to go.
Parker found himself more scoring opportunities than either Yates or Simms. The latter two have greater potential but in that one season Parker was very good.
 
Parker found himself more scoring opportunities than either Yates or Simms. The latter two have greater potential but in that one season Parker was very good.
I wouldn't disagree, he had a great season, but Wes and Morrell found him a lot if scoring opportunities. We don't have the equal of those two now, IMO.
 
We were far better in the Premier League without Southern. Form nosedived in the second half of the season when he came in. There’s no way he’d get in the current side unless the missing piece of the jigsaw is someone to run round like a headless chicken and pass the ball only in a backwards direction.
 
I'd see the 2007 side as head and shoulders above the current squad, but that's because the 2007 side was very strong, with a few players who were undoubtedly already comfortably Championship quality in League 1.
 
We were far better in the Premier League without Southern. Form nosedived in the second half of the season when he came in. There’s no way he’d get in the current side unless the missing piece of the jigsaw is someone to run round like a headless chicken and pass the ball only in a backwards direction.
Shameful post. Still got your head up your arse then? 😉🤣
 
We were far better in the Premier League without Southern. Form nosedived in the second half of the season when he came in. There’s no way he’d get in the current side unless the missing piece of the jigsaw is someone to run round like a headless chicken and pass the ball only in a backwards direction.
I think that was more to do with Gilks being injured, the surprise factor fading and beyond inept January transfer window but fine, you blame Keith Southern?! 🙄
 
I'd see the 2007 side as head and shoulders above the current squad, but that's because the 2007 side was very strong, with a few players who were undoubtedly already comfortably Championship quality in League 1.
I don't think it was head and shoulders above. Wes was. Barker and Evatt were very strong, Jackson and Morrell excellent but at the end of their careers. Claus had a good season. But Ballard and Marv have been excellent, Gretarsson is quality, Dougall is excellent, Ward has been good, Yates has outscored anyone in the 2007 side. I'd say the main difference was the creativity of Wes and Morrell, but the current side is very hard to break down, resilient.
 
I don't think it was head and shoulders above. Wes was. Barker and Evatt were very strong, Jackson and Morrell excellent but at the end of their careers. Claus had a good season. But Ballard and Marv have been excellent, Gretarsson is quality, Dougall is excellent, Ward has been good, Yates has outscored anyone in the 2007 side. I'd say the main difference was the creativity of Wes and Morrell, but the current side is very hard to break down, resilient.

Ballard, Marv, Gretasson etc have grown considerably through the season, but (in my opinion) are not yet close to the quality of Barker, Jackson, Evatt or Gorkks.
Dougall has made a massive difference for us, but only someone like Ted would pick him over Southern.
Ward is fine, but not better than Claus, who played a lot the following season in the Championship and doesn't have the range of passing that David Fox has.
You say Morrell was at the end of his career, but he scored 20 goals that season and went on to play for us the following season, plus he then had a couple of years and Bury and then Wrexham, playing another 200 games.
I'd place Maxwell above Rabs (obviously not Hart) and take Yates over Parker.

All academic anyway, as I think this side/squad has done brilliantly to build its own identity and style as the season has gone on. The resilience and capability to adapt to different options and systems is great and whatever happens from here on, they've grown and can move forward and become even better next season. I would say that the current squad has far more potential to improve, with more players potentially being able to thrive at a higher level than just survive (which was the case with some of the 2007 squad.)
 
Ballard, Marv, Gretasson etc have grown considerably through the season, but (in my opinion) are not yet close to the quality of Barker, Jackson, Evatt or Gorkks.
Dougall has made a massive difference for us, but only someone like Ted would pick him over Southern.
Ward is fine, but not better than Claus, who played a lot the following season in the Championship and doesn't have the range of passing that David Fox has.
You say Morrell was at the end of his career, but he scored 20 goals that season and went on to play for us the following season, plus he then had a couple of years and Bury and then Wrexham, playing another 200 games.
I'd place Maxwell above Rabs (obviously not Hart) and take Yates over Parker.

All academic anyway, as I think this side/squad has done brilliantly to build its own identity and style as the season has gone on. The resilience and capability to adapt to different options and systems is great and whatever happens from here on, they've grown and can move forward and become even better next season. I would say that the current squad has far more potential to improve, with more players potentially being able to thrive at a higher level than just survive (which was the case with some of the 2007 squad.)
I think Ballard Marv and Gretarsson ARE close to the quality of Barker, Jackson and Evatt. And our defensive record backs that up, I think. But those three were more developed at the time, I'd agree. Dougall has been extremely effective, very similar to Southern. Morrell, yes, he was excellent. He and Wes were superb, we don't have that quality in those areas now.
 
Ted was obviously not there at Anfield where Southern was the best midfielder on display
I was at every Prem game bar Chelsea away and Stoke at home. I would suggest that you were not there as Southern did not even start that game and came on as a sub for the last 25 mins yet you think he was better than Charlie Adam who ran the show.

Just proves that these Southern lovers have a distorted view of the past. Southern did extremely well to make it in the professional game considering his complete lack of skill.
 
I was at every Prem game bar Chelsea away and Stoke at home. I would suggest that you were not there as Southern did not even start that game and came on as a sub for the last 25 mins yet you think he was better than Charlie Adam who ran the show.

Just proves that these Southern lovers have a distorted view of the past. Southern did extremely well to make it in the professional game considering his complete lack of skill.
Southern played a major part in helping us go from League two to the Prem, and played the most minutes in the 2009/10 promotion season. You had a distorted view of the present at the time!
 
I was at every Prem game bar Chelsea away and Stoke at home. I would suggest that you were not there as Southern did not even start that game and came on as a sub for the last 25 mins yet you think he was better than Charlie Adam who ran the show.

Just proves that these Southern lovers have a distorted view of the past. Southern did extremely well to make it in the professional game considering his complete lack of skill.
No reply or defence to your made up gubbins tangy?
 
Too much beer
But remember thinking Gerrard was safely ensconced in Southern's pocket.
Your views of Keith are legendary, it is a pity you are so disparaging of a legend
 
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