BLM, Club's stance.

Alf

Alf

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There's a post on the MSG group with a screenshot of an e-mail from a customer saying he won't renew his STs if the club supports BLM/ players take a knee.

I really don't want to be divisive by bringing this up, but I think this puts the club in a really difficult position. Possibly the best thing they could do from a business perspective is ignore it. Personally though I think the right thing to do is to reply to the gentleman something along the lines of 'we support our players' right to express their views just as we respect yours. If it upsets you, please feel free not to attend any games. You're welcome back whenever you have a change of heart.'

How do you get in touch with the SLO? I really think this is something the club needs to take decisive, quick action on.
 
I imagine by the time Blackpool start playing again the BLM on the back on the shirts and the kneeling before games will have ended. If our season doesn't start again until (possibly) September, you'd think the support by the Premier League and Championship for BLM will just be until the end of their fixtures.

Even if you don't agree with BLM, emailing the club to tell them you're not renewing a season ticket unless they confirm they won't be supporting it seems a bit much and putting the club in a sticky situation IMO. I've seen this being discussed all over social media now, surely the club will have to come out and confirm their stance..
 
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If Black players (or any players for that matter) feel they want to kneel to show their support for the BLM movement, then that's entirely up to each individual, its a free country, I am not sure the club(s) could actually stop them showing their support for BLM, even if they wanted to
 
Alf said:
There's a post on the MSG group with a screenshot of an e-mail from a customer saying he won't renew his STs if the club supports BLM/ players take a knee.

I really don't want to be divisive by bringing this up, but I think this puts the club in a really difficult position. Possibly the best thing they could do from a business perspective is ignore it. Personally though I think the right thing to do is to reply to the gentleman something along the lines of 'we support our players' right to express their views just as we respect yours. If it upsets you, please feel free not to attend any games. You're welcome back whenever you have a change of heart.'

How do you get in touch with the SLO? I really think this is something the club needs to take decisive, quick action on.
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The only person in a difficult position is the person trying to use this to justify not buying a season ticket. Let's hope the MSG take it off their group feed. I mean, they will, won't they?
 
It's an individual's right not to buy a season ticket, but an odd thing to make a stance on when we've had plenty of black players over the years who were presumably supported. Although maybe not. Some England fans have abused their own players for being black before now.
 
It is a very difficult situation and it's impossible for us to judge people who take a stance like this without massively speculating on what's going on in their head. I try to be optimistic and believe that it's not racism, just misguided attention-seeking, and that those who say they are against BLM for the most part just don't really understand what it is.

Thanks for the e-mail address, should have of course checked the website, my automatic assumption from darker times is still that the staff directory is going to be painfully outdated!
 
What does this halfwit want the club to do? Does he seriously want the club to come out and make a statement opposing BLM and discipline any player who takes a knee? What is he going to do if, for example, Kaikai scores a 30-yard screamer first home game and takes a knee in celebration? Will he boo or rip up his season ticket?

If his political agenda is more important to him than watching the Pool then it's for the best he leaves the rest of us to it and finds something else to do on Saturday.
 
TheSpiritOf53 said:
What does this halfwit want the club to do? Does he seriously want the club to come out and make a statement opposing BLM and discipline any player who takes a knee? What is he going to do if, for example, Kaikai scores a 30-yard screamer first home game and takes a knee in celebration? Will he boo or rip up his season ticket?

If his political agenda is more important to him than watching the Pool then it's for the best he leaves the rest of us to it and finds something else to do on Saturday.
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Politics should never be involved in football full stop.
I like to see football as a sanctuary where there is no politics or other heavy stuff but just worry about football for 90 minutes.
 
You can't say BLM are openly racist when it's such a colossally huge umbrella of a movement. I'm sure there are those who would use its message for negative purposes but they don't represent the majority.
 
King Billy said:
Politics should never be involved in football full stop.
I like to see football as a sanctuary where there is no politics or other heavy stuff but just worry about football for 90 minutes.
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I'm not sure whether football should never be involved in politics but I don't think the club should be forced to take a stand for or against on something that might not be an issue by the start of the season. On the other hand, if the players want take a knee the club shouldn't stand in their way. I'd like to see our club concentrate on building a promotion-winning squad not coming up with a policy on BLM.
 
I hope Im not being racist when I say I hope we sign some more quick, skilful, mobile black players such as our first signing of the season. If we have 11 black players then so be it. I dont care if they are sky blue pink if they play in Tangerine they will do for me. Personally I wont be taking the knee but acknowledge peoples right to do so if required.
 
I agree with the sentiment LT but on the other hand when there is great injustice in the world, we don't always have the luxury of relying on just political institutions to set a moral standard.
 
However high the profile of BLM is when next season starts, I can well imagine our players wanting to show their solidarity, if only once.

As for the ST holder mentioned in the O/P, I'd suggest that the club respond in the same way that WBA did when one of theirs objected to the Baggies' support for BlackOut Tuesday...
"You won't be missed"
 
I always felt sorry for Wes Brown. He was a person of colour and a ginger, he would have struggled at school in the 90s
 
The club should come out and make it clear that they fully support the BLM movement that we’re an inclusive club who want equality for all and that they have zero tolerance for any form of bigotry. Those that don’t share the same values aren’t welcome. And as for the idiot who wrote into the club - I’d be happier NOT to share the stadium with him myself.
 
King Billy said:
To be honest my opinion of BLM is they are quite openly racist and it may not sit well with some the club support them.
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You make some good and very fair points on this thread Billy but you will slaughtered for doing so because you will be in the minority - on this thread.

Many fail to see that It is possible to support equal opportunity and be critical of the BLM movement at the same time - does everybody support the defunding of the police ?

We have got to the stage where every premier league footballer must show their support for the BLM movement whether they want to or not and that is not a good thing.
 
Athers said:
Why would anyone object to black peoples having the same rights as everyone else? What a bizarre hill to die on.

Rather not take his money with an attitude like that. I’m sure he cheered on Gnanduillet, Feeney, Kaikai etc last season. Wetwipe
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He's not saying black people do not have the same rights as everyone else, he's just saying BFC should not be supporting [from what I can gather from some black social commentators anyway] is a very questionable organisation. They are sentiments that I share myself; though I do draw the line at not paying for the season ticket. Isn't the EFL breaking it's own rules anyway by allowing it?
 
EagleDay said:
Explain why, instead of just making insults.
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To care enough to threaten a club with not renewing a season ticket, suggests they are in fact complete racists.

Who the fuck thinks their opinion and measly £300 will sway our club in not supporting a movement? - irrelevant of your views, this club is at the heart of the community and represents an awful lot more than just football. We should all support the BLM and see it nothing more than showing our discontent for racism.
 
Davepick said:
Are they all going to be called 'Black Lives Matter' as well?
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I think they should be collectively called GPM - Good Players Matter.
As to whether they like Take That, spag bol, brogues, having consensual sexual relations with people of the same gender, are Muslims, Catholics agnostic, black or Tory, I couldn't give a....no, drop Tory, that would be a bridge too far!
 
TangerineTom said:
To care enough to threaten a club with not renewing a season ticket, suggests they are in fact complete racists.

Who the fuck thinks their opinion and measly £300 will sway our club in not supporting a movement? - irrelevant of your views, this club is at the heart of the community and represents an awful lot more than just football. We should all support the BLM and see it nothing more than showing our discontent for racism.
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As if this group is all about anti racism.
OK so why didn’t anyone have a problem with the “kick it out” campaign?
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
You make some good and very fair points on this thread Billy but you will slaughtered for doing so because you will be in the minority - on this thread.

Many fail to see that It is possible to support equal opportunity and be critical of the BLM movement at the same time - does everybody support the defunding of the police ?

We have got to the stage where every premier league footballer must show their support for the BLM movement whether they want to or not and that is not a good thing.
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Come on Seaside2020, the 'defunding' concept has been explained in detail on this board already. It isn't anti-police.
 
Well said Tom.....just giving 5 mins of your time or a football players do they can say NO to racism is the minimum anyone should do.
I wonder if the moron had the minerals to put his name to that letter....
Is he a Mucker?????
If it was me......I would take his £300 and details for his ST.....and then I would pop round his house and give him his money back and ask him to stay away.
Sound like the same type of brain dead dic#head who make monkey noises at games........and a total w@nker......
 
Whilst we all bicker on here just remember, we are all supposed to be commited Blackpool fans. In fact, we put our (loud) mouths to work on our keyboards because we are VERY commited Blackpool fans.

Now, how often do we post the truism that a key feature of a good team Is 'togetherness', bonding it's often called. Please explain to me ( or rather, to the so-called fan who wants the Club to commit to not respecting BLM), quite how - with a mixed squad of different races - he expects that to be achieved with an owner who says, "right, remove tacit support for BLM because it's going to annoy part of our fan base?"
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
That was my thought Eagle.

Interesting that the boards top yoghurt-knitter is of the opinion that a supporter is a "f*****g moron" because he has questioned the clubs stance on the BLM movement.
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"yoghurt-knitter"? What the bloody 'ell is a yoghurt-knitter? 😂
 
There was a really good article on the athletic about Burnley and this issue. I’ll try and copy and paste it I get the chance, but it’s an excellent balanced piece.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Come on Seaside2020, the 'defunding' concept has been explained in detail on this board already. It isn't anti-police.
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66

I haven't read anything about that on here.

Lots of their supporters were running riot in London the other week, shouting "f**k the police" and attacking good honest policemen.

I am aware that they might not be representative of the whole BLM movement and I also support equality for all but I'm not sure that the BLM movement is one that footballers and supporters should be getting behind and perhaps they would be better getting behind other similar movements.

Of course, I accept that anybody who wants to support the movement is perfectly entitled to do so but I think that footballers are being forced to support them, there is no way a footballer would be allowed to opt out of showing support and that is a shame.

I think allot of white Britons are becoming a little annoyed at getting blamed for the death of a convicted armed robber on the other side of the planet and at being accused of being racist when nothing could be further from the truth.

I wish the good people of all colour within the BLM movement all the best but I am not sure that their activities are solving any problems and they could even be creating division.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
66

I haven't read anything about that on here.

Lots of their supporters were running riot in London the other week, shouting "f**k the police" and attacking good honest policemen.

I am aware that they might not be representative of the whole BLM movement and I also support equality for all but I'm not sure that the BLM movement is one that footballers and supporters should be getting behind.

Of course, I accept that anybody who wants to support the movement is perfectly entitled to do so but I think that footballers are being forced to support them, there is no way a footballer would be allowed to opt out of showing support and that is a shame.

I think allot of white Britons are becoming a little annoyed at getting blamed for the death of a convicted armed robber on the other side of the planet and at being accused of being racist when nothing could be further from the truth.

I wish the good people of all colour within the BLM movement all the best but I am not sure that their activities are solving any problems and they could even be creating division.
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OK, your post shows you to care about black lives. I also agree that with any rampaging mob in full on demo mode there are those who want to take advantage for a bit of looting, hooliganism or even so-called anarchists - who live in the world of the 1920/30s.
For me, I am not interested in any so-called British BLM 'movement.' What it means to me is the rush of concern in the States following a number of disgustingly wrong killings of black people at the hands of a febrile police force. That a large number of British people took that as a cue to demonstrate and, concurrently, raise the obvious issue of British slave traders, is a matter of pride to me. It's more than about time that this history was exposed for the evil that it was. But, I still say, BLM as a concept and movement for an end to racism in general and in the Police in particular, is a worthy cause. If there is a militant 'movement' harming that great cause by being violent and threatening, then I don't want to know it.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Whilst we all bicker on here just remember, we are all supposed to be commited Blackpool fans. In fact, we put our (loud) mouths to work on our keyboards because we are VERY commited Blackpool fans.

Now, how often do we post the truism that a key feature of a good team Is 'togetherness', bonding it's often called. Please explain to me ( or rather, to the so-called fan who wants the Club to commit to not respecting BLM), quite how - with a mixed squad of different races - he expects that to be achieved with an owner who says, "right, remove tacit support for BLM because it's going to annoy part of our fan base?"
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Now there is the problem, how do you separate a genuine sentiment (I much prefer the "kick it out" message) from the label of a dubious organisation?
 
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