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[Seasider1]

What an awful selfish attitude

£28 is too much

Everyday the cost of living is rocketing and as the world and his brother knows Blackpool is one of the most deprived places in the UK.
Totaly agree £28 is beyond a lot of people's reach. Think the club /community trust should offer so many free tickets to less well off families.

 

[Love BFC🍊]

Saved during Covid restrictions?
I’m still playing catch up from the money I lost!!!!

Me to johnno in the region of £150,000 we lost

 

[Ginge]

Why do you keep comparing us to other clubs

There really is no comparison whatsoever

We are unique in that our recent history is completely different to anybody else in this division. We are now Oystons free, we have a massive feelgood factor around the ground, yet we can't sell out our tickets

We are also unique in that we are a seasonal town with a seasonal workforce

We also have a below average annual salary

3,000 empty seats every match in a stadium our size isn't great and more needs to be done next season to fill the seats

Empty seats earn the club nothing, nowt, not a penny, fuck all ......

What's the solution to the problem then?

Any fool can give criticism....you seem, always to have plenty to say.....say something positive or constructive.

 

[JJpool]

I was the same but we can't keep pretending we are a small club with only 5000 just because that's what happened in the 90's. As someone who didn't have a ST in the Prem I can 100% tell you every home match was sold out, what the overspill would have been who knows as were limited due to stadium capacity. Phil is right we are short of 3000, 2400 in the East Stand(north section) 660 in the SE corner and 250 at the bottom of the North stand. Give away fans the south part of the east including some of the SE corner. Then put pool fans in the North part of the east stand and do some deals, we probably wouldn't sell it but we'd get an extra 1000 in there as they want to be near the North Stand atmosphere. Every other weekend on facebook and twitter we can see people are desperate to get tickets for the North Stand but can't and a fair few, rightly or wrongly, won't buy £28 tickets in Blocks X and Y coz it's a shit atmosphere. It's such a simple solution. TBH not getting over 10,000 home fans in the championship is poor.

Yep said this before, people want to be near the north and the solution to any trouble is there too, with regards to things thrown.

Nothing will be thrown when our own fans are there, people are far far more likely to want to be next to the north.

As you say give away fans the couple hundred extra in part of the se corner that the nobbers ended up in anyway. Its next to their tunnel to the SE they use anyway so makes sense.

The only issue then is final whistle fans are released south, but as said if they open that north gate for us in the north, a lot of us can go straight onto central drive.

You'll always get fans passing anyway just have police outside the south mainly and some in other areas.

Its very simple, utilises the ground much better and gives fans a chance to go where the real atmosphere is. Thats the big sell to many, you can see by the way tickets are sold, the north is the popular destination.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

What's the solution to the problem then?

Any fool can give criticism....you seem, always to have plenty to say.....say something positive or constructive.

Not sure why I'm responding to you tbh given how rude your post is

Surely wanting more home fans is positive, i can't think of anything negative in wanting more home fans so we can sell out games

I've been consistent on this since the start of the season

Mansford said at the start of the season that there weren't any plans to sell the East to home fans, why the hell not?

Its very short sighted and lazy to think that there isn't a way to get more home fans into games

Season ticket prices were ok and we have probably maxed out at 9k or so

Whats disappointing is the 3k or so empty seats at every game

The North part of the East should be for home fans, as has been said every week on social media there are people wanting North stand tickets and that part of the ground is always sold out so why not advertise and market the North East?

Stick a pop up bottle bar in the corner and some portable bogs

Maybe reduced prices for a month or for multiple games, or why not a membership for that part of the gound so the club can get around the away price issue?

The category thing doesn't help either

We have new owners, we are a championship club and we are Oyston free yet we still can't sell out a relatively small stadium

We have a well connected SLO, we have a strong community trust and a decent supporters Trust in BST

Its bizarre that as a club and fanbase, people can't come up with some decent ideas to sell a couple of thousand more seats on a game by game basis

We've managed before when in the Premier lg and it wasn't a massive issue having away fans of bigger clubs in the South East with home fans in the North East

Probably a bit late now with only a handful of games left

But something needs to be done for next season

Surely increaseing our fanbase and maximising revenue should be high on everyones list

I can only see positives unless of course you are a bit simple

 

[Doc]

Think how much you lot saved on NAPM and COVID restrictions.
Some will just make any excuse not to attend.

How much we saved? I was furloughed for 2 months then made redundant and I'm only just getting back on my feet.

 

[Johnno]

Me to johnno in the region of £150,000 we lost

Nowhere near that Hun!!
But enough to put my house at risk. Some folks made money during lockdown, but I know you suffered like I did.


‘Saving’.

 

[Gerry Ingrams Blonde Hair]

People also have an upper limit what they'll pay for things.
I wouldn't give Leeds £35 for a ticket a while ago won't pay over £4 a pint locally or more then £80 on trainers etc so when it's only £28 is banded about the casual fan things stuff that it's way too expensive.

Agree - but that £35 to see the Pool hammer Leeds at Elland Road was worth every penny!

 

[Brett&Murphs.]

Anyone without a ST should know the north is out of action for them but agree £28 is too high. Sell the areas that don’t fill up at 15/20 or cheaper for kids.

 

[Brett&Murphs.]

Agree - but that £35 to see the Pool hammer Leeds at Elland Road was worth every penny!

Sure once at Elland road it was £43.

 

[JJpool]

Some good posts, any fan should want us to try and sell those seats.

Also why do people make the argument its ok to charge x amount as remember, the club lost because of covid.

It did, but were one of the only clubs i think to leave a big amount of fan ST money in, all Championship clubs got a refund someone said.

A lot of people lost a lot during covid. Blackpool is a tourist town with lots of hospitality jobs, hit the hardest by the daft lockdowns and rules.

So since last attending, we had gone up a division and prices had increased quite a bit in an uncertain world. We missed the usual promotion boost with fans.

We have to make up for that, a cup run big home game chance was missed, a deal to attract part time and new fans etc.

The thing about a deal is the marketing and media teams can go into overdrive if we did it, really push it out there and create a feelgood factor, ask fans to pass it onto friends and family and really encourage people. Encourage fans to share social media posts etc.

East stand special 2 games for 1, or ST holders can bring 1 other for just £10. New fan special, ST holders bring a fan not currently on the database for free. Idk just made them up......there's tons of things we could do.

With the season likely to end now with not loads to play for may as well try something.

 

[Wizaard]

Yet people will pay £18 to watch 6th tier football down the road.

Every game at Bloomfield Rd there are current internationals playing. It's all relative, and I'd argue that the quality on show is worth it.

 

[nameless]

Yet people will pay £18 to watch 6th tier football down the road.

Every game at Bloomfield Rd there are current internationals playing. It's all relative, and I'd argue that the quality on show is worth it.

Yup its a fair point although some are so tight they'd live in a cardboard box on the M1 and eat hot gravel for tea.

 

[Wizaard]

Yup its a fair point although some are so tight they'd live in a cardboard box on the M1 and eat hot gravel for tea.

They'd be lucky.

 

[JJpool]

Yet people will pay £18 to watch 6th tier football down the road.

Every game at Bloomfield Rd there are current internationals playing. It's all relative, and I'd argue that the quality on show is worth it.

Relatives, thats Burnley.

 

[SEASIDE2020]

It's not just the cost, I've done a few away's this season instead of home's. It's the time too, working around when the missus works. It makes it difficult to attend so no point committing to a season ticket. Sadly my family have all left us and her's still work so getting a sitter is difficult. I just think in a deprived town like Blackpool, £28 is too much. Maybe I'm wrong!

You can't be wrong, it's your opinion.

I agree with you and others won't, they are not wrong either they just disagree.

We've done prices to death on here and then some but I just can't understand why folk wouldn't want as many home supporters at games as possible ?

 

[SEASIDE2020]

Yet people will pay £18 to watch 6th tier football down the road.

Every game at Bloomfield Rd there are current internationals playing. It's all relative, and I'd argue that the quality on show is worth it.

Wiz

I know you are well meaning and always want what's best for the club and our supporters and I'm not even arguing with you when you say that you feel that 28 sheets to watch the Mighty is good value.

I'm not sure value has got to much to do with it when some families can't afford tickets and just feel that the club should do more to try and get as many home supporters getting behind the team as possible.

I hear what everybody says regarding they can't do this because of that and they can't do that because of this and I'm not pretending to have a perfect solution but surely it's not too hard to draw up some kind of deals for folk/families that benefits both the supporters and the club and the team ?

 

[Kingscoatkiwi]

All being well, I'll be there on Saturday, having a new floor in the kitchen so hoping it's finished on time.

Next Wednesday is the day after our golden wedding anniversary but I've been given permission to attend. Staying at my sister,s o/night, home on Thursday.

Congratulations for next Tuesday curry old boy, and to mrs curryman

 

[BFC_BFC_BFC]

Yet people will pay £18 to watch 6th tier football down the road.

Every game at Bloomfield Rd there are current internationals playing. It's all relative, and I'd argue that the quality on show is worth it.

It is worth it, but the target market isn’t lifelong Blackpool Fans, who watch home and away week in week out.

It’s about how you price to attract people who don’t necessarily have and appreciation of what’s going on inside and so you’ve firstly got to draw them in.

 

[Wizaard]

It is worth it, but the target market isn’t lifelong Blackpool Fans, who watch home and away week in week out.

It’s about how you price to attract people who don’t necessarily have and appreciation of what’s going on inside and so you’ve firstly got to draw them in.

Yes, and I have no problem with any deals between now and the end of the season to draw people in.

 

[Wizaard]

You can't be wrong, it's your opinion.

I agree with you and others won't, they are not wrong either they just disagree.

We've done prices to death on here and then some but I just can't understand why folk wouldn't want as many home supporters at games as possible ?

Just to add, it's neither £28 every game, nor for all categories.

 

[XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn]

I think there maybe something in the point above about Police & the issues with unruly behaviour . It basically means that we have 2 whole sections of the ground East stand(north) & SE corner that can't be used because certain people can't behave in a responsible manner .
Given a decent run of results(which does make a difference) we are not far off filling what we we are currently able to .
Therefore I'd say its not easy to run initiatives . Don't forget , Many of those empty seats may be STHs who for one reason or another are still keeping away from crowded areas due to covid .

 

[Love BFC🍊]

Sure once at Elland road it was £43.

I paid £34 at elland rd

 

[XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn]

Not sure why I'm responding to you tbh given how rude your post is

Surely wanting more home fans is positive, i can't think of anything negative in wanting more home fans so we can sell out games

I've been consistent on this since the start of the season

Mansford said at the start of the season that there weren't any plans to sell the East to home fans, why the hell not?

Its very short sighted and lazy to think that there isn't a way to get more home fans into games

Season ticket prices were ok and we have probably maxed out at 9k or so

Whats disappointing is the 3k or so empty seats at every game

The North part of the East should be for home fans, as has been said every week on social media there are people wanting North stand tickets and that part of the ground is always sold out so why not advertise and market the North East?

Stick a pop up bottle bar in the corner and some portable bogs

Maybe reduced prices for a month or for multiple games, or why not a membership for that part of the gound so the club can get around the away price issue?

The category thing doesn't help either

We have new owners, we are a championship club and we are Oyston free yet we still can't sell out a relatively small stadium

We have a well connected SLO, we have a strong community trust and a decent supporters Trust in BST

Its bizarre that as a club and fanbase, people can't come up with some decent ideas to sell a couple of thousand more seats on a game by game basis

We've managed before when in the Premier lg and it wasn't a massive issue having away fans of bigger clubs in the South East with home fans in the North East

Probably a bit late now with only a handful of games left

But something needs to be done for next season

Surely increaseing our fanbase and maximising revenue should be high on everyones list

I can only see positives unless of course you are a bit simple

I agree Half the East should be for Home fans & the other half away allocation (would cup game allocation rules mean we'd have to give up our half of East ? I'm unsure) The problem is the infrastructure surrounding the East & the movement of fans before & after games . Big problems on Bloomfield Rd (Caused by Police in the main) earlier in season so they now exit via North End . Do we give East/North to away fans & East South to home .? Problem there is the proximity of away fans to our numpty brigade . Its a difficult one to solve & I can't see it being solved until the East is redeveloped

 

[FY5_Seasider]

Sales look stronger than usual for this time of the week. We'll be very close to selling out all three stands for this one.

 

[JJpool]

Sales look stronger than usual for this time of the week. We'll be very close to selling out all three stands for this one.

Yes looks ahead of usual but the blocks that get taken out, presumably so the club have some to sell maybe on the day or whoknows but they do tend to take a small block or 2 like they have done at the front of W and near the top of x.

You sometimes see if they haven't all sold then some of it appears back on nearer the game out of nowhere, so must be the club reserving some for walk on sales or something.

Either way should sell the 3 sides, just a real shame no east deal is being done.

 

[poolseasider]

£24 to get in.

Only £4 difference than Wednesday but as I said above if that's you max it becomes a point of principal.

 

[TheRealKingKenny]

The club have to decide how to price the tickets to maximise revenue, especially with larger away followings.

If they dropped the tickets £3 would the attendances increase? I don’t think so. The club alienated the people of the town for years, there were four Blackpool fans in my school year, the rest were United and Liverpool. We need build but it will take time and we can’t throw away revenue in the meantime, we already struggle to compete. That £3 extra for 2000 away fans is 6 grand, we’d never make that back with extra home fans.

 

[JJpool]

The club have to decide how to price the tickets to maximise revenue, especially with larger away followings.

If they dropped the tickets £3 would the attendances increase? I don’t think so. The club alienated the people of the town for years, there were four Blackpool fans in my school year, the rest were United and Liverpool. We need build but it will take time and we can’t throw away revenue in the meantime, we already struggle to compete. That £3 extra for 2000 away fans is 6 grand, we’d never make that back with extra home fans.

You can actually make up most of the difference from a lower price game.

But the point is this is a once in a while thing, to grow the fanbase and maximise support which could be the difference.

Copies much of this from another thread where i did some basic comparisons, but changed the numbers now.

For eg lets say we have 8k season ticket holders.

2k paying home fans of which 300 do so on the day. I'm just going to use adult pricing here for ease of comparison.

2k away fans.

At cat a prices we have

1700 x 28
300 x 30
2,000 x 27
= 110,600

If we drop to 20 quid a ticket flat and obviously 19 for away fans. No on the day price increase.

1700 x 20
300 x 20
2000 x 19
= 78,000

An extra 700 home fans due to the cheaper prices seems achieveable and is another 14000, so that's 92,000.

You'd probably get a few extra away fans coming when it's cheaper too. 100 extra = 1900 plus sales lets say 2000.

Of the extra 700 home fans, 500 spend 8 quid in the bar and also shop sales go up slightly. £4250.

Add that up and you get... £98,250

You also have more chance of attracting these regular attendees for cup games too then with extra income there.

There is of course a more happy medium. Cheap price but with matchday increase.

1700 x 22
300 x 24
2000 x 21
= 86,000

An extra 550 home fans due to the cheaper prices seems achieveable and is another 12,100, so that's 98,100.

You'd probably get a few extra away fans coming when it's cheaper too. 80 extra = 1900 plus sales lets say 1950.

Of the extra 550 home fans, 350 spend 8 quid in the bar and also shop sales go up slightly. £3000.

Add that up and you get... £103,050

Not a million miles off and for a one off its worth having an extra nearly 550 more fans or so. Plus we might not get this many or there might be more who come with the right feelgood factor marketing campaign.

The point is we don't know unless we try. Any slight bit less cash, call it an investment in growing the fanbase for 1 game. You never know, you might get an extra 1k turn up at a lower price. People will be surprised how much price can have an affect.

We won't know how much price is an issue and how many will come at the right price unless we try it. It would be valuable data.

What these price comparisons don't show is if we did a ST holder bring a friend in the east for a lesser game, thats not going to be a sellout away or home, in seats that would have been empty, its almost all a win and all extra cash. Or an east stand special for new and lapsed fans, so may options.

Even if you charge a tenner for them, if they would have been empty so happy days.

 

[TheRealKingKenny]

You can actually make up most of the difference from a lower price game.

But the point is this is a once in a while thing, to grow the fanbase and maximise support which could be the difference.

Copies much of this from another thread where i did some basic comparisons, but changed the numbers now.

For eg lets say we have 8k season ticket holders.

2k paying home fans of which 300 do so on the day. I'm just going to use adult pricing here for ease of comparison.

2k away fans.

At cat a prices we have

1700 x 28
300 x 30
2,000 x 27
= 110,600

If we drop to 20 quid a ticket flat and obviously 19 for away fans. No on the day price increase.

1700 x 20
300 x 20
2000 x 19
= 78,000

An extra 700 home fans due to the cheaper prices seems achieveable and is another 14000, so that's 92,000.

You'd probably get a few extra away fans coming when it's cheaper too. 100 extra = 1900 plus sales lets say 2000.

Of the extra 700 home fans, 500 spend 8 quid in the bar and also shop sales go up slightly. £4250.

Add that up and you get... £98,250

You also have more chance of attracting these regular attendees for cup games too then with extra income there.

There is of course a more happy medium. Cheap price but with matchday increase.

1700 x 22
300 x 24
2000 x 21
= 86,000

An extra 550 home fans due to the cheaper prices seems achieveable and is another 12,100, so that's 98,100.

You'd probably get a few extra away fans coming when it's cheaper too. 80 extra = 1900 plus sales lets say 1950.

Of the extra 550 home fans, 350 spend 8 quid in the bar and also shop sales go up slightly. £3000.

Add that up and you get... £103,050

Not a million miles off and for a one off its worth having an extra nearly 550 more fans or so. Plus we might not get this many or there might be more who come with the right feelgood factor marketing campaign.

The point is we don't know unless we try. Any slight bit less cash, call it an investment in growing the fanbase for 1 game. You never know, you might get an extra 1k turn up at a lower price. People will be surprised how much price can have an affect.

We won't know how much price is an issue and how many will come at the right price unless we try it. It would be valuable data.

What these price comparisons don't show is if we did a ST holder bring a friend in the east for a lesser game, thats not going to be a sellout away or home, in seats that would have been empty, its almost all a win and all extra cash. Or an east stand special for new and lapsed fans, so may options.

Even if you charge a tenner for them, if they would have been empty so happy days.

I absolutely agree that we should do some promotions for certain games.

I don’t think £25 tickets would make a massive difference to the attendances we’re getting, so we could potentially lose money over the course of the season. I don’t think away fans would choose not to come to Blackpool over £3 difference, it would have to be a pretty outrageous price to stop me going to an away game that I wanted to go to.

Obviously nobody knows until it happens, I just don’t think the £3 is as much of a factor as others do and as an exile I am someone who pays it.

 

[fcblackpool]

Tin hat here.

Ultimately this thread is a pile of poop, because the club bods don't listen. Didn't last year, won't this.

 

[Bloodorange]

Didn't the club do a 10 game part season ticket starting at £20 per game from January going downwards through the various age groups and concessions?

Perhaps an expansion of this model and the U18 ceiling being raised to U21 is the answer?.

Never understood how your ability to pay full price starts at 18 and certainly not in the current economic climate.

At least raising the age gives the protection to those on lower minimum wage scales and clears the exit of education and transition hopefully into employment for others

 

[Dannyp1988]

Another shite thread about the same thing ffs it’s £28 quid like it or don’t go if it was 20 would it make a massive difference I don’t think so people just use every excuse not to support a team

 

[poolseasider]

Another shite thread about the same thing ffs it’s £28 quid like it or don’t go if it was 20 would it make a massive difference I don’t think so people just use every excuse not to support a team

And another crap response not understanding that those posting on this thread ALREADY attend and want to see the the empty seats filled you obviously don't care.
If you don't think £28 is too much fair enough but 3000 empty seats in a ground which holds as little as us ain't good if we are to afford to live within our means in the Championship.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

Tin hat here.

Ultimately this thread is a pile of poop, because the club bods don't listen. Didn't last year, won't this.

They listened to the BST survey hence why we have daft price points

 

[Seasider53]

Actually the BST survey indicted that £25 was a psychological price point, and going above this demand would drop off.And suggested £24.50. The report is published in their members section.

 

[tangerine.com]

In the days of old it was quid a kid.

 

[XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn]

You can actually make up most of the difference from a lower price game.

But the point is this is a once in a while thing, to grow the fanbase and maximise support which could be the difference.

Copies much of this from another thread where i did some basic comparisons, but changed the numbers now.

For eg lets say we have 8k season ticket holders.

2k paying home fans of which 300 do so on the day. I'm just going to use adult pricing here for ease of comparison.

2k away fans.

At cat a prices we have

1700 x 28
300 x 30
2,000 x 27
= 110,600

If we drop to 20 quid a ticket flat and obviously 19 for away fans. No on the day price increase.

1700 x 20
300 x 20
2000 x 19
= 78,000

An extra 700 home fans due to the cheaper prices seems achieveable and is another 14000, so that's 92,000.

You'd probably get a few extra away fans coming when it's cheaper too. 100 extra = 1900 plus sales lets say 2000.

Of the extra 700 home fans, 500 spend 8 quid in the bar and also shop sales go up slightly. £4250.

Add that up and you get... £98,250

You also have more chance of attracting these regular attendees for cup games too then with extra income there.

There is of course a more happy medium. Cheap price but with matchday increase.

1700 x 22
300 x 24
2000 x 21
= 86,000

An extra 550 home fans due to the cheaper prices seems achieveable and is another 12,100, so that's 98,100.

You'd probably get a few extra away fans coming when it's cheaper too. 80 extra = 1900 plus sales lets say 1950.

Of the extra 550 home fans, 350 spend 8 quid in the bar and also shop sales go up slightly. £3000.

Add that up and you get... £103,050

Not a million miles off and for a one off its worth having an extra nearly 550 more fans or so. Plus we might not get this many or there might be more who come with the right feelgood factor marketing campaign.

The point is we don't know unless we try. Any slight bit less cash, call it an investment in growing the fanbase for 1 game. You never know, you might get an extra 1k turn up at a lower price. People will be surprised how much price can have an affect.

We won't know how much price is an issue and how many will come at the right price unless we try it. It would be valuable data.

What these price comparisons don't show is if we did a ST holder bring a friend in the east for a lesser game, thats not going to be a sellout away or home, in seats that would have been empty, its almost all a win and all extra cash. Or an east stand special for new and lapsed fans, so may options.

Even if you charge a tenner for them, if they would have been empty so happy days.

The "Seems achievable" increase in numbers is based on what evidence ? The major factor in increasing numbers is a winning team , Based on the facts of previous experience in the Championship , Prem & lower echelons we clearly have 4000+ fans who are fickle & only come when we are doing well & playing "Bigger" clubs. Its always been the way at Blackpool . Price in my opinion has little to do with it . The guys we have in charge will have done their research & sums . My feeling is that the empty seats we still have in areas is partly due to some people still being covid aware , especially the older brigade like davpick , Curryman & 20s

 

[GrahamwantshisOates]

Performance will always increase the crowds.

Just had a look on seat planner and less than 100 tickets available excluding South Stand.
Even South Stand there is limited availabilty except corners.
It will not be far off a full house with the restrictions on East Stand still in place.

It will be interesting to see the home attendance against Forest.
If we do well in next couple games the majority will not give a damn about £4 price increase!

 

[Shiggy]

I can't understand why the club has no 18-21 discount. A lot of lads would want to go down every now and then but £24+ is way too much.

 

[Seasider53]

I can't understand why the club has no 18-21 discount. A lot of lads would want to go down every now and then but £24+ is way too much.

I do think this does need addressing and I'd be surprised if the club hasn't got plans for it

 

[tartanseasider]

There's no way Swansea will sellout their allocation.

Sheff Utd and Forest will though.
Don't know why these two clubs aren't given 2 extra blocks, just like Barnsley and M'Boro were.

Swansea had sold 1,850 by Thursday, which i was surprised about lol

 

[koudo]

The "Seems achievable" increase in numbers is based on what evidence ? The major factor in increasing numbers is a winning team , Based on the facts of previous experience in the Championship , Prem & lower echelons we clearly have 4000+ fans who are fickle & only come when we are doing well & playing "Bigger" clubs. Its always been the way at Blackpool . Price in my opinion has little to do with it . The guys we have in charge will have done their research & sums . My feeling is that the empty seats we still have in areas is partly due to some people still being covid aware , especially the older brigade like davpick , Curryman & 20s

The evidence is what other clubs have done in decades gone by, Brighton has to be the best example going from 6000 averages to 23,000 averages. Tbh no evidence is needed anyway as it's basic common sense, if you have a price point and thousands of empty seats then change and adjust accordingly. We don't even use Facebook sponsored posts to gain a bigger reach or to target certain demographics, which includes new supporters, why not though? You say price has nothing to do with it? All I'll say to that is go and walk around Dickson Road/Lytham Rd and Central Drive, look at the people you walk past and ask yourself can they afford to take their family. We have some of the poorest wards in the country and we're trying to tell a family that consists of Mum/Dad and two kids that it's £80 for the Forest game that's before petrol and any food or drink is bought. It's nearly a £100 day out. The Board get most things right imo but this really needs looking at going forward.

Suggestions for the future;

1. Use sponsored Facebook posts and go after the Demographics they want to attract i.e Male 18-25 then do another one Women of a certain age(two random examples, target different postcodes too.
2. Football special busses
3. Adverts on taxis
4. Adverts on busses/trams
5. Billboard adverts
6. Promotions like March Madness @Adams Kebab's suggestion
7. Getting pub landlords onside to promote BFC
8. Contacting larger employers in the area, build up a rapport and ask them how many go to BR if it's zero send them a discounted price where ten can go for £15
9.Schools/colleges/Universities
10. Glossy ST brochure with cheesy strapline saying 'working my way back to Pool' or something, follow up it up with promotional videos which they are very good at btw.

 

[JJpool]

The "Seems achievable" increase in numbers is based on what evidence ? The major factor in increasing numbers is a winning team , Based on the facts of previous experience in the Championship , Prem & lower echelons we clearly have 4000+ fans who are fickle & only come when we are doing well & playing "Bigger" clubs. Its always been the way at Blackpool . Price in my opinion has little to do with it . The guys we have in charge will have done their research & sums . My feeling is that the empty seats we still have in areas is partly due to some people still being covid aware , especially the older brigade like davpick , Curryman & 20s

Well we don't know until we try.

The seems achieveable is a guess but to show how with a modest increase in fans you can make up most of the difference. But we did maintain the same sort of attendance vs qpr live on sky for 20 quid, when a lot of exiles won't have travelled, so a few hundred locals must have made up that difference.

Price is absolutely a factor.

The empty seats are not the ones in sold out areas, those seats are sold, whwteher they turn up or not.

Its the empty east seats, may as well fill them.

 

[JJpool]

The evidence is what other clubs have done in decades gone by, Brighton has to be the best example going from 6000 averages to 23,000 averages. Tbh no evidence is needed anyway as it's basic common sense, if you have a price point and thousands of empty seats then change and adjust accordingly. We don't even use Facebook sponsored posts to gain a bigger reach or to target certain demographics, which includes new supporters, why not though? You say price has nothing to do with it? All I'll say to that is go and walk around Dickson Road/Lytham Rd and Central Drive, look at the people you walk past and ask yourself can they afford to take their family. We have some of the poorest wards in the country and we're trying to tell a family that consists of Mum/Dad and two kids that it's £80 for the Forest game that's before petrol and any food or drink is bought. It's nearly a £100 day out. The Board get most things right imo but this really needs looking at going forward.

Suggestions for the future;

1. Use sponsored Facebook posts and go after the Demographics they want to attract i.e Male 18-25 then do another one Women of a certain age(two random examples, target different postcodes too.
2. Football special busses
3. Adverts on taxis
4. Adverts on busses/trams
5. Billboard adverts
6. Promotions like March Madness @Adams Kebab's suggestion
7. Getting pub landlords onside to promote BFC
8. Contacting larger employers in the area, build up a rapport and ask them how many go to BR if it's zero send them a discounted price where ten can go for £15
9.Schools/colleges/Universities
10. Glossy ST brochure with cheesy strapline saying 'working my way back to Pool' or something, follow up it up with promotional videos which they are very good at btw.

Good post.

Lots we could do.

Was going to put on a new thread but may as well just put on here...

What do people think of an initiative where we send a leaflet to every house in the area?

Could just be an advertisement leaflet for BFC or could have some sort of voucher on it where existing fans get something for bringing someone new, or new fans get some deal, 2 games for 1 maybe or...

New fans show this voucher and receive HALF PRICE entry in the east stand. Or whatever deal is decided.

How much would it cost, would need the club obviously, but could even use crowd funding, also use the bloke advertising off Lee Charles videos, is it Andy postal and data systems maybe? Put money into a local business and complete an initiative.

Had a quick look online and saw 55 quid per 1000 leaflets delivered in some online ad... 5.5k

100k houses could be about right for the areas?

Little A6 flyers, about 500 quid for 100k.

The numbers may not be perfect, only had a quick look, but what do people think?

Could be a great way to reach new or lapsed fans, encourage some to attend, attract new people and sell any deal we have going

 

[Cuthbert]

Think how much you lot saved on NAPM and COVID restrictions.
Some will just make any excuse not to attend.

Take it you’re loaded bud and have your own magic money tree. Patronising.

 

[poolseasider]

As I've said many times on here a paid membership scheme is the way to go because that way you can sting the aways and offer a cheaper home price.

 

[td53]

I think there maybe something in the point above about Police & the issues with unruly behaviour . It basically means that we have 2 whole sections of the ground East stand(north) & SE corner that can't be used because certain people can't behave in a responsible manner .
Given a decent run of results(which does make a difference) we are not far off filling what we we are currently able to .
Therefore I'd say its not easy to run initiatives . Don't forget , Many of those empty seats may be STHs who for one reason or another are still keeping away from crowded areas due to covid .

Well, if so, club should do some kind of 'resell your seat' initiative then.

If the ground is full, make it as easy as possible for anyone not attending to release their seat for resale.

 

[td53]

As I've said many times on here a paid membership scheme is the way to go because that way you can sting the aways and offer a cheaper home price.

And with that attitude, everyone who travels away gets stung. Great!

 

[td53]

Football is over priced. Our matchday tickets are over priced. Loads of you do mental gymnastics to justify it, but you're all just cheerleaders for gentrification.

So there.