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AgreedUnfair to judge Turton on one game on the left side of central defence, surely. And really on one piece of defending.
To honest he's probably been our most consistent player so far this season
AgreedUnfair to judge Turton on one game on the left side of central defence, surely. And really on one piece of defending.
Disagree with that it enables the wide men and full backs to have more space out wide as the inverted players naturally tend to come inside so for me keep changing around during the game to keep other teams guessingI'd really like Critchley to stop messing about with the midfield. Robson and Ward were the wrong way around in midfield the entire game and it made play slow and lethargic at times. Just common sense and a bit messy to be honerst.
It just is stopping Ward and Robson putting crosses in or making that run beyond the defenders because they will naturally ALWAYS be on their weaker foot. Also Ward has been seen as a right winger for other teams he's played for. Just looked the most obvious issue with midfield on Saturday and shocked it went on for 90 minutes as I bet it would have been better irrespective.Disagree with that it enables the wide men and full backs to have more space out wide as the inverted players naturally tend to come inside so for me keep changing around during the game to keep other teams guessing
He backed off and backed off and let the boy get his shot away, depends which way you look at it. Either way he was definitely culpable as a centre half in that position.
Totally agree that he needs a rest, not quite been on it the last week or 2, partly due to teams over compensating on his threat, and partly i think for the reasons you sayI think CJ needs a rest. Maybe Kemp, Bez or Woodburn (if ready) instead.
Unleash CJ second half if necessary against tired defenders.
He won't drop Ward given his goal on Saturday......the fact he brought Mitchell on at LB when Garbutt went off 9n Saturday gives an insight into his thinking on that.......for what its worth I'd go your way at the back but I dont think Critch will,.I wouldnt pick this team but I think he will go for..
Maxwell
Turton
Ekpiteta
Ballard
Husband
Williams
Robson
Woodburn
CJ
Madine
Yates
Not judging him on the one performance. Im just not a fan. As I’ve said before I wouldn't get on a players back but it’s just an opinion.Unfair to judge Turton on one game on the left side of central defence, surely. And really on one piece of defending.
DisagreeHe played a massive part in Crewe's goal on Saturday and was way too slow to catch him and prevent the cross...if it had been Gabriel he would have been crucified...factamundo
Watch it again PhilDisagree
He was attacking as is the way we lost the ball in midfield and nobody either left back or 2 centre halves attacked the ball in the box
Yes, I noticed that. Inside out centre mids? Why?I'd really like Critchley to stop messing about with the midfield. Robson and Ward were the wrong way around in midfield the entire game and it made play slow and lethargic at times. Just common sense and a bit messy to be honerst.
Every week we should be learning something. Too many changes too quickly will mean we won't get the full cause and effect. Consistency comes from the players having an understanding of each other's game. We won't get that from constant flux.Another balanced post , I would tend to agree with what your saying, to many changes would probably put a fly in the ointment so to speak !
Believe it or not, I agree with that 100%!Every week we should be learning something. Too many changes too quickly will mean we won't get the full cause and effect. Consistency comes from the players having an understanding of each other's game. We won't get that from constant flux.
Where's the open mouthed shocked emoji when you need it?Believe it or not, I agree with that 100%!
This is partly the reason why I felt it important to have included Turton & Husband in the team at the weekend, to try and get some continuity. If the team is constantly being changed, it'll be impossible to see what works and what doesn't.Every week we should be learning something. Too many changes too quickly will mean we won't get the full cause and effect. Consistency comes from the players having an understanding of each other's game. We won't get that from constant flux.
If he's putting Woodburn in, it will be for Ward with a bit of tinkering. I don't think NC is brave enough to drop Yates or CJ.This is partly the reason why I felt it important to have included Turton & Husband in the team at the weekend, to try and get some continuity. If the team is constantly being changed, it'll be impossible to see what works and what doesn't.
I think we'll see minimum changes again tonight; either Ballard or Mitchell in to replace Garbutt and possibly Woodburn, but I don't know who for.
I've always thought that.There’s a danger NC is overthinking this. You play your best players in their best positions. That includes all the new signings.
I've always thought that.There’s a danger NC is overthinking this. You play your best players in their best positions. That includes all the new signings.
I would agree entirely if it wasn't for Ward scoring on Saturday.If he's putting Woodburn in, it will be for Ward with a bit of tinkering. I don't think NC is brave enough to drop Yates or CJ.
If Ward stays, and I agree that a manager may think it harsh to drop him after scoring, and Woodburn plays, it can only be for Yates. I'd keep CJ as Woodburn might occupy defenders giving CJ a bit more space.I would agree entirely if it wasn't for Ward scoring on Saturday.
The fact he did muddies the water a little, and I expect Ward to keep his place (for now) off the back of that added to a generally improved performance.
If Woodburn goes in on the left, it will at least give us an option we haven't seen this season on that side of the pitch.
Although what else did Ward do in his main role of creating and involving the front 3? I'm not suggesting he won't start but I think the goal might be masking a deeper set issueIf Ward stays, and I agree that a manager may think it harsh to drop him after scoring, and Woodburn plays, it can only be for Yates. I'd keep CJ as Woodburn might occupy defenders giving CJ a bit more space.
I agree and was suggesting he'd get dropped for Woodburn, but as Finest says he scored and we know NC isn't the bravest manager, so probably won't drop him a s a result of the goal.Although what else did Ward do in his main role of creating and involving the front 3? I'm not suggesting he won't start but I think the goal might be masking a deeper set issue
Why do you say he isn’t the bravest ? He’s managing 20 odd blokes who I’m sure are questioning him all the time .He has to be brave to keep players in who are playing crap or keep players out who’s he’s brought in and want a chanceI agree and was suggesting he'd get dropped for Woodburn, but as Finest says he scored and we know NC isn't the bravest manager, so probably won't drop him a s a result of the goal.
Because of his team selections, subs. I'd have dropped CJ 2 games ago or found a way to get him space.Why do you say he isn’t the bravest ? He’s managing 20 odd blokes who I’m sure are questioning him all the time .He has to be brave to keep players in who are playing crap or keep players out who’s he’s brought in and want a chance
That's not where Oxford decided he was most effective, I believe.If Woodburn player he will play on the left of a front 3
Thats his best position
Not sure why fans are always trying to play people out of position
But that doesn’t bring into question his bravery . You may not agree with his decisions which is great but to say he’s not brave I m not so sureBecause of his team selections, subs. I'd have dropped CJ 2 games ago or found a way to get him space.
To give Ward some credit, he played far better on Saturday than he had prior to that.Although what else did Ward do in his main role of creating and involving the front 3? I'm not suggesting he won't start but I think the goal might be masking a deeper set issue
Ha! ;-)If he's putting Woodburn in, it will be for Ward with a bit of tinkering. I don't think NC is brave enough to drop Yates or CJ.
Called his bluff voyHa! ;-)