China now has a Covid vaccine

Chunkylad

Chunkylad

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Just saw the article on the BBC news that China is providing one of 2 separate vaccines to people who can afford it.
As ever you need to consider the validity of the story but that has to be a positive step?
 
Cheeky sods - they should be offering it to the rest of the world first the disease spreaders!
 
Chunkylad said:
Just saw the article on the BBC news that China is providing one of 2 separate vaccines to people who can afford it.
As ever you need to consider the validity of the story but that has to be a positive step?
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That will only fuel the fire that they are profiting from a virus they purposely created.
I reserve judgment personally, but that’s what will be doing the rounds if it turns out to be correct re a vaccine.
 
Lala said:
That will only fuel the fire that they are profiting from a virus they purposely created.
I reserve judgment personally, but that’s what will be doing the rounds if it turns out to be correct re a vaccine.
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I agree Lala. If they are successful and then make it available for export, can you imagine the reaction in the US?
 
So they MAY have a vaccine for that strain - what's the point, these things mutate.

We need to adapt and move forward.
 
When people here were believing press reports that the Oxford vaccine was winning the race, they were saying things like, the UK population should get it first and we should sell it and make millions. Now some other country has one first, people here say they should share it.

If they really wanted to make money from a vaccine they wouldn't have suppressed it so well in their own land. They have been getting around 15 new cases a day in a population of 1.4 billion. They tested a whole city of 11 million people this week and found no new cases.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
When people here were believing press reports that the Oxford vaccine was winning the race, they were saying things like, the UK population should get it first and we should sell it and make millions. Now some other country has one first, people here say they should share it.

If they really wanted to make money from a vaccine they wouldn't have suppressed it so well in their own land. They have been getting around 15 new cases a day in a population of 1.4 billion. They tested a whole city of 11 million people this week and found no new cases.
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do you really believe they suppressed it that well?
 
Halifax71 said:
So they MAY have a vaccine for that strain - what's the point, these things mutate.

We need to adapt and move forward.
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That’s the thing.... Coronaviruses don’t actually mutate at a rate that would make much difference, so mutation is not really the issue for a vaccine, unlike Flu.
 
Chunkylad said:
Just saw the article on the BBC news that China is providing one of 2 separate vaccines to people who can afford it.
As ever you need to consider the validity of the story but that has to be a positive step?
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Do you have confidence that it's been properly tested, been through the full trial process and has been proven to be both safe and effective?

This is China we're talking about.
 
This is good news as far as I am concerned
To me it means that the Oxford vaccine must be effective and very close to being ready. The other news story about the Russians trying to smear the Oxford vaccine with a social media campaign means the same thing.
This is how we get out of this mess
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
When people here were believing press reports that the Oxford vaccine was winning the race, they were saying things like, the UK population should get it first and we should sell it and make millions. Now some other country has one first, people here say they should share it.

If they really wanted to make money from a vaccine they wouldn't have suppressed it so well in their own land. They have been getting around 15 new cases a day in a population of 1.4 billion. They tested a whole city of 11 million people this week and found no new cases.
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And the gullibles believe everything China tell us.
 
As ever, it is hard to believe all the statements out of China, but this is still progression of a sort.
 
Chunkylad said:
As ever, it is hard to believe all the statements out of China, but this is still progression of a sort.
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Not really.

Most of the vaccines developed in the western world were ready by June, thereabouts, the time spent thereafter has been on proving that they're safe and effective.

All that's happening is that China and Russia are releasing untested and unproven vaccines so that they can say "we've solved the crisis"; they may work, they might not work, they might kill you.
 
Imagine it will be like the America & Russia vaccine. Straight to human vaccination, with very little trials in between and normal key trial phases completely skipped in an effort to claim to be first.
 
It's a race to be first so that country / research group / company can say that they 'saved the world'.
However the fact that China is doing this now is significant (at least to me). And added to the Russian smear story below it looks like Oxford could be pretty close to concluding phase 3 testing (I really hope that this is true). Remember, the Russians have already been accused of trying to hack into the Oxford vaccine research group's network.
AZ are preparing 2 billion doses of this vaccine, of which the UK has bought 100 million (you need two jabs apparantly). It all points to the same thing. Lets hope it is true and we can get out of this mess quickly.

www.eureporter.co

Russia has launched a propaganda campaign to smear the coronavirus vaccine being developed by Oxford University scientists

The Kremlin is accused of spreading fear about the serum, claiming it will turn people into monkeys. The Russians base the suggestion on the fact the vaccine is using a chimpanzee virus. The Russians have disseminated pictures and memes of Prime Minister Boris Johnson looking like “a yeti”. It’s...
www.eureporter.co www.eureporter.co
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
It's a race to be first so that country / research group / company can say that they 'saved the world'.
However the fact that China is doing this now is significant (at least to me). And added to the Russian smear story below it looks like Oxford could be pretty close to concluding phase 3 testing (I really hope that this is true). Remember, the Russians have already been accused of trying to hack into the Oxford vaccine research group's network.
AZ are preparing 2 billion doses of this vaccine, of which the UK has bought 100 million (you need two jabs apparantly). It all points to the same thing. Lets hope it is true and we can get out of this mess quickly.

www.eureporter.co

Russia has launched a propaganda campaign to smear the coronavirus vaccine being developed by Oxford University scientists

The Kremlin is accused of spreading fear about the serum, claiming it will turn people into monkeys. The Russians base the suggestion on the fact the vaccine is using a chimpanzee virus. The Russians have disseminated pictures and memes of Prime Minister Boris Johnson looking like “a yeti”. It’s...
www.eureporter.co www.eureporter.co
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That's enough for me, i've seen Planet of the apes. No thanks.
 
Chunkylad said:
Just saw the article on the BBC news that China is providing one of 2 separate vaccines to people who can afford it.
As ever you need to consider the validity of the story but that has to be a positive step?
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A Communist state is providing a vaccine to those who can afford it? Pathetic whichever way that pans out.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
When people here were believing press reports that the Oxford vaccine was winning the race, they were saying things like, the UK population should get it first and we should sell it and make millions. Now some other country has one first, people here say they should share it.

If they really wanted to make money from a vaccine they wouldn't have suppressed it so well in their own land. They have been getting around 15 new cases a day in a population of 1.4 billion. They tested a whole city of 11 million people this week and found no new cases.
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Are you honestly that gullible to believe a word that comes out of China?
 
BlackpoolsFinest said:
Will it be available through Wish or DHgate?
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If it’s via Wish I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for it to be delivered.
Wish as far as I am aware is a US company that sources nearly everything from China and delivery times move ever forward Once ordered and paid for....what they are good at is bombarding you thereafter with e mails if like me you were stupid enough to buy something from them....it was “elasticated string” which my Wife Was going to use in making up reuseable cloth face masks.Fortunately we managed to source an alternative as it took 8 weeks for the Wish purchase to arrive😤It was cheap mind you😳.
The face masks are actually good but a bit feminine as the cloth used was from unused curtain and dress materials which she had previously made but I’ve got used to wearing hem😉 and at least they are blue not pink😍
 
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BigHandsOliverKahn said:
No but neither do I judge that country purely based on Western media or conspiracy theories. Knowing a couple of people who live there or their family still lives there gives me a more balanced insight.
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Yes and if you criticise the CCP good luck....even if you are no longer resident there...and I have like you friends who still have family there.
 
I’m rather merry, thought I’d come over for a laugh 😆, I knew it 😂😂
 
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