Corollary to SD minute about ST refunds

Exactly, i guessed at 50 yesterday so a bit over 1%.

Hardly worth the words yesterday. Over 98% of those who purchased seem happy with the arrangement and knew what they were getting into.

Probably a few chancers or some who may need money. Why a few are trying it on whoknows.

Most thought people would attend but the government bottled it despite people not having to be near wash other.

Its a strange situation as maybe some thought they would attend and paid to secure their seats, still the terms were there and the pandemic far from straight forward.

Maybe its that famous 50 who were being locked out under the oyston years who finally got ST's and so are a bit angry still 😀
I would think it more likely that they're people who have gone throughout and are annoyed their continuous record is broken.😂
 
Thanks for the clarification Steve

I think it was the reference to ‘ vocal ‘ that led to the view it was based on social media postings

Unbelievable that some have threatened legal action The t & c’s couldn’t have been clearer
I agree but if someone is in desperate straits cash wise anything and everything will be used to try and claw back some cash. Perhaps given the strong legal position the club is in, empathy or silence might be a better option.
 
Wow, hope none of these 50 were part of the 1000 golden ticket uber supporter crew, it is terrible that they're threatening legal action when it was clear at the start of the season that we might not be able to go.
 
Would be interesting if anyone on here that has asked for a refund can put their case forward. It’s all a bit guess work.

The legal action bit frankly shocked me....
 
It wasnt shoehorned in. There was a question raised about whether fans would be compensated for investing in season tickets in the forthcoming season, there was another question about progress on the training ground, and the conversation went naturally from the investment in the new facility, mention of how grateful the club were about fans investing through tickets and merchandise and a brief mention and a sense of annoyance that a small proportion were looking to get back what they'd put in.

At the time, that conversation flowed naturally and far more emphasis was on the gratitude for the fans' financial support than the other aspect. A written report doesnt bring out tone or full context.
Correct.
 
20s is a decent bloke, someone who argues their point without being abusive👍🏻 On the other hand you and the half dozen others on that discord take pleasure out of abusing each other ☹️
I have to comment on this statement about the BFC discord group. You have clearly never viewed the site. There hasn't been a single crossed word on there since it started last September. I have found the members to be enthusiastic Pool fans of all types. There isn't the volume of members on this site, but who cares. It's a really excellent experience. I'd recommend you sign up and say hello. You'll be welcomed like everyone else. We're all in it together.
 
20s is a decent bloke, someone who argues their point without being abusive👍🏻 On the other hand you and the half dozen others on that discord take pleasure out of abusing each other ☹️
20s is a good bloke no doubt about it and I think a very fair dude.
What abuse are you talking about on the BFC Discord channel - you sure you are not logging into the BDSM channel?
The Discord channel is for ALL Pool fans and even away fans :)
It is a channel of love.
 
20s is a good bloke no doubt about it and I think a very fair dude.
What abuse are you talking about on the BFC Discord channel - you sure you are not logging into the BDSM channel?
The Discord channel is for ALL Pool fans and even away fans :)
It is a channel of love.
No nickseasiders, I’ve logged into the right one , you know, the one that you’ve just told them your replying to me 👍🏻I’d like to think that once the pubs are back open you lot would get together and have your Hilda Ogden type bitch fest in real life!! But some how I doubt it☹️
 
No nickseasiders, I’ve logged into the right one , you know, the one that you’ve just told them your replying to me 👍🏻I’d like to think that once the pubs are back open you lot would get together and have your Hilda Ogden type bitch fest in real life!! But some how I doubt it☹️
Yeah I did and did.
Hilda Ogden bitch fest in a pub - sounds bloody good to me.
Why didn't you say hello?
 
50 is that it?

That actually makes the comments worse

For what its worth if just 50 people need their money back then maybe the club should just refund them

We have no idea what pressures people are under financially or mentally
If you give refunds to the 50 you could potentially open the floodgates. People knew in advance that refunds weren’t going to happen.
 
No nickseasiders, I’ve logged into the right one , you know, the one that you’ve just told them your replying to me 👍🏻I’d like to think that once the pubs are back open you lot would get together and have your Hilda Ogden type bitch fest in real life!! But some how I doubt it☹️
Dude, chill out. Say hello on the site. You will be warmly welcomed by all.
 
Wonder if the club have said this threat of legal action to defuse the situation and just made it worse. Have we proof of these threatening letters,with certain details blacked out. We did of other legal letters.
 
50 people is 1.25% of season ticket holders - assuming 4,000 season tickets. Yes, it must be disheartening to be affronted with 'demands' whilst investing heavily during an economically trying Pandemic. But, just think, if the other 98.75% of season ticket holders were shouting out their praises for the Board...why, these people would not even be heard.
 
I've spoken with Brett Gerrity this morning and I think it's worth reiterating what I and others stated on the original thread, that Brett's comment was not a rant. Maybe if he'd been more explicit in his answer there wouldn't have been quite the reaction there has been.

This is not a social media issue. The fact is that the club has received over 50 requests for ST refunds (despite the T&Cs being abundantly clear). Many of those requests have been fairly demanding and some have threatened legal action against BFC. As SLO I have seen some of this in process. I think we should view Brett's comments (and any sense of disappointment in the boardroom) in the context of those few individual actions.

I hope this helps people's understanding of what lay behind the response to the refunds questions.
Steve,
Tell the Board that the vast, vast majority are with them. Some of those 50 might be loud but that's nothing compared with the support they've got from nearly all supporters.
 
I have to comment on this statement about the BFC discord group. You have clearly never viewed the site. There hasn't been a single crossed word on there since it started last September. I have found the members to be enthusiastic Pool fans of all types. There isn't the volume of members on this site, but who cares. It's a really excellent experience. I'd recommend you sign up and say hello. You'll be welcomed like everyone else. We're all in it together.
Discord is grand, I really like it.
 
It's disappointing when so much is going in the right direction that this kind of thing comes along. The perception I had, rightly or wrongly, when reading the Structured Dialogue minutes was that BG launched into a rant in reply to the question of when the Training Ground was going to be built. It is an emotive question for many Blackpool supporters after all the bullshit we used to get from the previous owners.

Nobody doubts the level of investment that has been put into the club especially given the economic situation that most EFL clubs find themselves in. All football fans know owning and running a football club is an expensive business and how much it will cost to develop a suitable training facility. To then link this into the issue of ST refunds didn't read too well. There will always be small number of people trying to work an angle or with some axe to grind but these are are vastly outnumbered by true supporters so they don't need to be lectured about it. Rightly or wrongly that's how it came across.
 
50 people is 1.25% of season ticket holders - assuming 4,000 season tickets. Yes, it must be disheartening to be affronted with 'demands' whilst investing heavily during an economically trying Pandemic. But, just think, if the other 98.75% of season ticket holders were shouting out their praises for the Board...why, these people would not even be heard.
The 99% were thanked profusely for all they're doing by getting ifollow passes, buying merchandise, volunteering etc..
 
Steve,
Tell the Board that the vast, vast majority are with them. Some of those 50 might be loud but that's nothing compared with the support they've got from nearly all supporters.
All they needed to look at was the sponsor a player initiative that one of the posters on here set up.

Hundreds of people coming together to chip in what they could. We raised thousands for the club.

Hardly a mention of it, but 50 arsewipes, and the clubs reaction to it have led to this.

It’s sad in a way and I won’t criticise them anymore on this because Im becoming a bit hypocritical focusing on their 1% when they’re getting 99% of things correct and I’d rather focus on that.
 
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I would have liked a question about ifollow directly.

I know accy released some numbers early in the season but us being a fair bit bigger in following would have been interesting to know how we are doing.

Yes revenue is down but you can still make some money from ifollow with a decent backing.

I'd be interested to know our figures, how many actually buy etc.

Should have been one of the questions.
 
It’s a storm in a teacup of the clubs (or should that be Gerrity’s ?) making. Ironic that the club aren’t prepared to stream the meetings for fear of making a gaff but then make one all the same.
Agree it’s been done to death now though, time to move. All focus on Crewe
 
No , just pay full price in future. Are you not buying a season ticket to help out the Club? If not as I said earlier, on your way
 
Really not sure why these "fans" are kicking up a storm.. but I would suggest if they were that bothered then not to refund but give them ST for cods:)

Joking apart we have all been through a hard year but really don't see why threatening legal action to get money back it's achieving anything. Just deal with it and see you next season.
 
Still a big miss step from the club here.

For the sake of 50 people who are being daft in my view, they’ve rubbed thousands up the wrong way, when in some instances, it will be people’s first experience of being enamoured with the clubs leadership.

With the incredibly small sample size, it should in hindsight have been kept behind closed doors, the fans who have continued to pump money in should have been the highlight over the small number of idiots, not vice versa. As that small number of idiots will always rear their head in what ever context the club operates.

I again echo mine and other comments of yesterday, the club should look at broadcasting these meetings. Perhaps make them once or twice a year. I don’t buy the argument they’re worried about gaffs going viral, that is not the fan bases MO with Sadler and his people.

This is a genuine question to SLO, who probably can’t answer, but, are the club wary of us as a fan base given our recent track record of hostility to leadership after we feel aggrieved? I get the sense they’re keeping us at arms length as they feel we could turn into a threat in the future, if there is a thought process like this going on upstairs, it is, completely off the mark.

We’ll be with SS and his people for a long, long time to come.
Refund one and you set a president and its a free for all then.
Also if they were to refund some and not others that would cause a bigger shitstorm.
It's unfortunate it was clarified in the meeting.
Wow, hope none of these 50 were part of the 1000 golden ticket uber supporter crew, it is terrible that they're threatening legal action when it was clear at the start of the season that we might not be able to go.
Have I mentioned I was one 🤗
 
Is this legal action thing just another red herring

Seriously does anyone really think that fans are threatening legal action

Sounds a right load of bollux to me

Maybe the SLO can find out just how many of these 50 disgruntled fans were threatening legal action over 300 quid
 
Hopefully the club exercises their right not serve these customers in the future but I’d guess that the people doing this type of thing a corporate customers.
 
Refund one and you set a president and its a free for all then.
Also if they were to refund some and not others that would cause a bigger shitstorm.
It's unfortunate it was clarified in the meeting.

Have I mentioned I was one 🤗
I’m with the club in that people demanding a refund are idiots and it must be very annoying. And the legal action stuff, well.... I didn’t know Owen and Karl had purchased season tickets. Only those two would be stupid enough to threaten legal action in this case. The club were right to be a bit narked about that.

What was disappointing was the response to the 1% at the SDM, the tone and message that came out of it left a bit to be desired. But like I’ve said, I’m not going on about it anymore. They’ve made a mistake. We all do it.
 
Has anyone considered that someone threatening legal action may be desperate for the money?

Threatening and doing are also two total different things as well.

People may well have signed up for the deal and since lost their jobs.

This isn’t as simple as people make out.

I do not think the club did themselves any favours with what they said - but hey ho we all make mistakes.

If I was SS I would be peed off as well at first - but 98% ish haven’t asked and I would be very happy with that.

A few million is obviously affordable to SS but 300 quid ish isn’t affordable to all at the moment.

Everyone needs to just take a step back if they have a polarised opinion, and just think about it all - as everyone is in different personal circumstances.

From a personal perspective - I will not be asking for a refund and will be buying two season tickets again next year, even though I will be lucky to attend a couple of games at best.

UTMP ALWAYS 👍
 
Has anyone considered that someone threatening legal action may be desperate for the money?

Threatening and doing are also two total different things as well.

People may well have signed up for the deal and since lost their jobs.

This isn’t as simple as people make out.
Sorry but I have to comment on this because at least you have seen through this-in whole or in part.

Personally I'm unsure that people said they'd sue the club and I have doubts about the integrity of the SLO, who really shouldnt be putting this stuff on an open forum. This is similar to something to what I've experienced where a Trust takes over a forum,has people in place close to the club and then finds a scapegoat within the fanbase to turn upon.

If anything the club is responsible for allowing this Structured Dialogue to go ahead as it has,because its disenfranchised many fans especially families and social fringe groups (like say LGBT) from getting involved-noted too that BASIL had two representatives on the board,where BST should have selected another candidate for balance.

The comments on safe standing are in line with the FSAs policy to push this at every opportunity, and I suspect this is interference from someone on the National Council rather than something regular Blackpool fans care about.
I've actually discussed* this with the Council lead on this some years ago, where there are several criteria to fulfil including making concourses wider and being able to facilitate egress targets.

Its also worth knowing that rail seating takes up more room per seat so many of you would lose yours in the popular stands, and where other clubs have got around this by having a more relaxed attitude to stewarding.

Generally I think you're all being lead up the garden path with regards to the Structured Dialogue meetings which are becoming divisive within your club,and its part of the nonsense that has BST running this forum and being the main contact with the club's directors, and also the head of the FSA suddenly appearing from nowhere to contribute rather aggressively on here.
 
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