Countries on the Amber List

TangerineBayern

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Now Boris is saying people should not be going on holidays to these countries, wow what another mixed message! Why doesn’t he just have Green and Red Lists then, or better still shut the borders off to all countries with the exception of essential travel?
 
It's what they've been saying since day one and the difference is hotel quarantine.
True LS but they are now repeating it at every opportunity so why have an amber list if they really don’t want you to go due to the risks, and yes the difference is quarantine plus a Day 8 PCR test? People are booking holidays to countries on the amber list and are happy to quarantine inline with the government guidelines.
 
Now Boris is saying people should not be going on holidays to these countries, wow what another mixed message! Why doesn’t he just have Green and Red Lists then, or better still shut the borders off to all countries with the exception of essential travel?

There should be no green list, just red and amber.
 
Listening to the politicians with their messaging this week and in particular the lack of real clarity around their statements about 'you should not travel to countries on the red and amber lists for holidays', you then have to ask the question as to why travel firms are taking bookings for these countries most of which are on the FCDO list with with the following:

The FCDO advises against all but essential travel to the whole of ****** based on the current assessment of COVID-19 risks.​

 
What do you mean regardless of risk? We're in the middle of the worst pandemic in living memory and there's a massive risk everywhere. Listen to the scientists and look at the second India in Bolton and Blackburn.
 
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What do you mean regardless of risk? We're in the middle of the worst pandemic in living memory and there's a massive risk everywhere. Listen to the scientists.

Israel, for example, has approx 1/10 the case rate we have in the UK, it is likely far safer to spend a week on holiday in Israel than it is to spend it here in the UK.

The same applies for all other green list destinations, case numbers at or below UK levels, the marginal risk of visiting them is at worst minimal if not in fact negative.

As you said, risk is everywhere, that includes here in the UK. Unless we want to live in permanent lockdown forever we have to accept that and try to manage risk rather than eliminate it altogether, that includes understanding that if one activity is prohibited then something else will take its place and the net balance of risks and associated costs needs to be weighed against the benefits from any activity.

That's what the scientists are telling me.
 
I generally agree with you Lost. In this case, choosing to risk your life for a week in Spain instead of the Lake District or instead of waiting for next year just seems like an unnecessary gamble. And I don't mean being abroad, I mean queueing in an airport, sitting in a confined plane, transferring on a crowded bus and all that goes with it.
 
I generally agree with you Lost. In this case, choosing to risk your life for a week in Spain instead of the Lake District or instead of waiting for next year just seems like an unnecessary gamble. And I don't mean being abroad, I mean queueing in an airport, sitting in a confined plane, transferring on a crowded bus and all that goes with it.

Fair enough, but I think the risk at the community level is manageable so I'm comfortable with individuals making their own decisions based on their own circumstances and risk factors.

For those under 50 and at least partially vaccinated the risk is minimal anyway, so why should they not be allowed to travel if they want to?
 
What do you think that would achieve?
The suppression of variants that will allow for a full relaxation of current restrictions within our borders at the earliest opportunity and limit the risk of unnecessary local lockdowns as a result of the selfish ones who don't self-isolate after returning from foreign countries
 
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