COVID refusniks

Stony Hill

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Is there anyone on here that has not had or refused their jab?
The front page of today’s paper quotes Boris as saying the “refusniks“ are threatening progress.
I’m baffled: why would anyone want to risk COVID and, worse still infect someone else?
 
Some may have a genuine fear of having the jab. If they do they should speak to friends who have had it or a health care professional because because this treatment is saving lives and is nothing to fear. The rest i just do not understand.
 
Presumably the 127,000 people who have died of it isn’t enough to convince them that it’s serious enough for them to get the jab. Probably have to be at least 500,000 and even then there’ll still be deniers.
 
Is there anyone on here that has not had or refused their jab?
The front page of today’s paper quotes Boris as saying the “refusniks“ are threatening progress.
I’m baffled: why would anyone want to risk COVID and, worse still infect someone else?
It's a classic defection tactic for the Indian variant fuck up. Its all the people fault!
 
As a matter of interest, how many people don't get a flu jab every year?
I don't......................... but my Mrs had it every year up until this winter, each and every time she has suffered very bad side effects for up to a week, this year she refused and she's not even had the sniffles. We was not going to take a chance with Covid though and have had both our jabs.
 
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Is there anyone on here that has not had or refused their jab?
The front page of today’s paper quotes Boris as saying the “refusniks“ are threatening progress.
I’m baffled: why would anyone want to risk COVID and, worse still infect someone else?
There is zero evidence that the injections will stop Covid, the makers don't even claim that they will. Looks like we are headed for perpetual lockdowns and it's always the unvaccinated's fault, never the government's for mindless tyrannical overreach.
 
There is zero evidence that the injections will stop Covid, the makers don't even claim that they will. Looks like we are headed for perpetual lockdowns and it's always the unvaccinated's fault, never the government's for mindless tyrannical
It's a classic defection tactic for the Indian variant fuck up. Its all the people fault!
but the only way it got into the country is selfish people flying back from India and not self isolating 🤷🏽‍♂️
 
There is zero evidence that the injections will stop Covid, the makers don't even claim that they will. Looks like we are headed for perpetual lockdowns and it's always the unvaccinated's fault, never the government's for mindless tyrannical overreach.
Zero? If that was in any way tangible, the infection rate would still be climbing thousands more deaths!
Have you had the vaccine, Tycho? And if you got COVID would you isolate (let alone face it in hospital)?
 
Zero? If that was in any way tangible, the infection rate would still be climbing thousands more deaths!
Have you had the vaccine, Tycho? And if you got COVID would you isolate (let alone face it in hospital)?
I was a bit angry when I posted what I posted but have legitimate reasons. My concern is that people will just believe the official narrative when it comes to vaccines which makes no mention of the 5000+ deaths and 100,000+ serious reactions caused by the vaccines (that they know about these official figures are probably only a drop in the ocean).

How many people on here realise how dangerous these experimental injections have really turned out to be in reality?
 
I was a bit angry when I posted what I posted but have legitimate reasons. My concern is that people will just believe the official narrative when it comes to vaccines which makes no mention of the 5000+ deaths and 100,000+ serious reactions caused by the vaccines (that they know about these official figures are probably only a drop in the ocean.

How many people on here realise how dangerous these experimental injections have really turned out to be in reality?
As Lost Seasider would say, where are these 5000+ deaths published?
 
If you have the jab, my decision on whether or not to have it literally has no impact on you whatsoever. It's a bizarre and ludicrous straw man argument bearing in mind I've more chance being run over by a bus than get ill from covid and anyone worried about covid will be vaccinated. There will never be zero covid ever in the same way there will never be zero flu...well maybe except if covid appears...
 
As Lost Seasider would say, where are these 5000+ deaths published?
VAERS system in the USA and MHRA yellow card scheme in the UK you'll have to Google them. Sorry I'm not really in the mood for doing the job our government isn't.

Calling people who weigh up risks of vaccines before making a decision names such as refusniks, hesitants or antivaxers in my opinion is irresponsible, disrespectful and arrogant ... but Boris is a clown as we all know.
 
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VAERS system in the USA and MHRA yellow card scheme in the UK you'll have to Google them. Sorry I'm not really in the mood for doing the job our government isn't.

Calling people who way up risks of vaccines before making a decision names such as refusniks, hesitants or antivaxers in my opinion is irresponsible, disrespectful and arrogant ... but Boris is a clown as we all know.
Boris is a well respected world statesman according to a proportion of our posters and none of it was his fault, just overtaken by world events
 
More than likely perhaps the whole system is at fault here and we should do away with parties, clear out all the psychopaths/dark triad traits etc from corridors of power ... one can only dream.
It's certainly not a party political issue but all sides are trying to make it one, one way or another. The Tories are trumpeting the vaccine programme as a huge success to mask the omnishambles of the initial handling, while Labour get grief for supporting some aspects of the programme from their own side and the perception they're not being a credible opposition.
 
I will downgrade my use of 'clown' to 'misguided fool who hasn't the faintest idea about mathematics or science', or perhaps 'globalist puppet' is more apt. I certainly hope he doesn't believe half the garbage he spouts from between his lips. Anyway I digress ... he's not my cup of tea ... so few of them are.
 
I think more people have died of Covid who were not vaccinated than those vaccinated.

In fact, I’d hazard a guess that it’s a foooooking massive difference between those non vaccinated dying of Covid against those vaccinated dying of Covid or as a reaction to the vaccine.

Not a scientist, but I am a gambler so I’ll take the more favourable - “get the vaccine” odds 👍
 
I was a bit angry when I posted what I posted but have legitimate reasons. My concern is that people will just believe the official narrative when it comes to vaccines which makes no mention of the 5000+ deaths and 100,000+ serious reactions caused by the vaccines (that they know about these official figures are probably only a drop in the ocean).

How many people on here realise how dangerous these experimental injections have really turned out to be in reality?
There have been 7 recorded deaths attributed to blood clotting. Balance that against 38million(ish) none of whom have now had the vaccines and none have since died of COVID to my knowledg. I don’t want to belittle the seriousness of the topic by using a betting odds analogy but it looks to me that going with the injection is easily the better option. Better for me, my family, friends and anyone else I come into contact with.
Sod the politics or any other politician who says the wrong thing at the wrong time.
 
There is zero evidence that the injections will stop Covid, the makers don't even claim that they will. Looks like we are headed for perpetual lockdowns and it's always the unvaccinated's fault, never the government's for mindless tyrannical overreach.
This tyrannical overreach must be the approach of every government in the world, otherwise why would they all be vaccinating their citizens.
 
So they’re all wrong are they?
If all the governments of the world and mainstream media decide to act in unison to oppress the people of the world we should all sit back and watch? just assume they know what they are doing and everything will be OK? I suppose it depends if you think the technocrats pulling strings at the top are criminally inclined.
 
If all the governments of the world and mainstream media decide to act in unison to oppress the people of the world we should all sit back and watch? just assume they know what they are doing and everything will be OK? I suppose it depends if you think the technocrats pulling strings at the top are criminally inclined.
Are you sure it’s not aliens impersonating government officials?
 
That is a distinct possibility.

Nothing will surprise me what they expect us to believe next.
Tycho, I’ve looked down the thread and you’ve responded to a good few. However, it looks to me that there is too much sidetracking. I don’t give a rat’s.... for the politics! My concern is the deaths through COVID. I have been fortunate. No-one in my family or those close to me (close friends) have succumbed. But in my wider circle, 3 have. We see the pain in the media that such deaths before their time cause. Vaccines, face masks. If it helps (they do) then I’m happy to comply. I just don’t see it as a big deal for anyone not to help.
 
Tycho, I’ve looked down the thread and you’ve responded to a good few. However, it looks to me that there is too much sidetracking. I don’t give a rat’s.... for the politics! My concern is the deaths through COVID. I have been fortunate. No-one in my family or those close to me (close friends) have succumbed. But in my wider circle, 3 have. We see the pain in the media that such deaths before their time cause. Vaccines, face masks. If it helps (they do) then I’m happy to comply. I just don’t see it as a big deal for anyone not to help.
I'm not sure why from what I have said you assume I have no concern about respiratory illness/death and the effect this has on families, of course when deaths occur this is very tragic. My only point was until the injections are mandated people should be left alone to make informed choice about whether they or their families get injected and shouldn't be ridiculed/coerced to take them.
I suggest people make this choice armed with all the facts and not just the ones presented conveniently by governments and mainstream media to forward their agendas.
 
Quotes from our resident YouTube/Facebook Loony..

"There is zero evidence that the injections will stop (Covid)"......A Lie, look what's happening in front of you with deaths and positive tests are dropping both in the UK/Europe/USA...thats 100% proof of evidence that the vaccine works

"Covid, the makers don't even claim that they will".....Lies, yes they do. It's a VACINNE...what do you think a vaccine does.

"Makes no mention of the 5000+ deaths and 100,000+ serious reactions caused by the vaccines".....No proof what so ever...show the evidence as you pointed towards the site below which doesn't show these figures...where do you get these figures from....show the evidence...and anything you read on Facebook doesn't count..

"VAERS system in the USA and MHRA yellow card scheme in the UK".......Read the official sites and apart from general reactions (expected) and the 0.00002% blood clot reaction...there is no mention or ANY evidence that this has ben reported anywhere or is even true....Why don't you show where you got this "Evidence"...apart from a YouTube video from some Karen in Ohio.

"These injections are experimental and killed all animals in animal trials.......Facebook bull#hit.....fact checked HERE

If you cant even do the basic google check.....look at ALL evidence....fact check everything......YOU are the problem, people like you who think that they have found some hidden agenda, they are super intelligent and only they can see.....But you're the most stupid in reality because you believe that sh#t and are so uneducated you cant separate the open lies with the truth...you're basically a Trump supporter with a slightly higher IQ than your kettle......youre the fodder these loonies want to entrap to make them feel like your both somehow slightly intelligent .....

If me and the Lizard overlords get our way...were sterilising you and using your brain as an ashtray.......
IF anyone believes ANYTHING you say....they need sterilising as well
SHUT UP...stop looking on Facebook and YouTube...get a job, get out and read a book that doesn't involve UFO's and aliens.

#Loony #Rant #BringBackNationalService #DontLetThemBreed #IBlameTheSchools
 
Quotes from our resident YouTube/Facebook Loony..

"There is zero evidence that the injections will stop (Covid)"......A Lie, look what's happening in front of you with deaths and positive tests are dropping both in the UK/Europe/USA...thats 100% proof of evidence that the vaccine works

"Covid, the makers don't even claim that they will".....Lies, yes they do. It's a VACINNE...what do you think a vaccine does.

"Makes no mention of the 5000+ deaths and 100,000+ serious reactions caused by the vaccines".....No proof what so ever...show the evidence as you pointed towards the site below which doesn't show these figures...where do you get these figures from....show the evidence...and anything you read on Facebook doesn't count..

"VAERS system in the USA and MHRA yellow card scheme in the UK".......Read the official sites and apart from general reactions (expected) and the 0.00002% blood clot reaction...there is no mention or ANY evidence that this has ben reported anywhere or is even true....Why don't you show where you got this "Evidence"...apart from a YouTube video from some Karen in Ohio.

"These injections are experimental and killed all animals in animal trials.......Facebook bull#hit.....fact checked HERE

If you cant even do the basic google check.....look at ALL evidence....fact check everything......YOU are the problem, people like you who think that they have found some hidden agenda, they are super intelligent and only they can see.....But you're the most stupid in reality because you believe that sh#t and are so uneducated you cant separate the open lies with the truth...you're basically a Trump supporter with a slightly higher IQ than your kettle......youre the fodder these loonies want to entrap to make them feel like your both somehow slightly intelligent .....

If me and the Lizard overlords get our way...were sterilising you and using your brain as an ashtray.......
IF anyone believes ANYTHING you say....they need sterilising as well
SHUT UP...stop looking on Facebook and YouTube...get a job, get out and read a book that doesn't involve UFO's and aliens.

#Loony #Rant #BringBackNationalService #DontLetThemBreed #IBlameTheSchools
Get Vocal
 
Quotes from our resident YouTube/Facebook Loony..

"There is zero evidence that the injections will stop (Covid)"......A Lie, look what's happening in front of you with deaths and positive tests are dropping both in the UK/Europe/USA...thats 100% proof of evidence that the vaccine works

"Covid, the makers don't even claim that they will".....Lies, yes they do. It's a VACINNE...what do you think a vaccine does.

"Makes no mention of the 5000+ deaths and 100,000+ serious reactions caused by the vaccines".....No proof what so ever...show the evidence as you pointed towards the site below which doesn't show these figures...where do you get these figures from....show the evidence...and anything you read on Facebook doesn't count..

"VAERS system in the USA and MHRA yellow card scheme in the UK".......Read the official sites and apart from general reactions (expected) and the 0.00002% blood clot reaction...there is no mention or ANY evidence that this has ben reported anywhere or is even true....Why don't you show where you got this "Evidence"...apart from a YouTube video from some Karen in Ohio.

"These injections are experimental and killed all animals in animal trials.......Facebook bull#hit.....fact checked HERE

If you cant even do the basic google check.....look at ALL evidence....fact check everything......YOU are the problem, people like you who think that they have found some hidden agenda, they are super intelligent and only they can see.....But you're the most stupid in reality because you believe that sh#t and are so uneducated you cant separate the open lies with the truth...you're basically a Trump supporter with a slightly higher IQ than your kettle......youre the fodder these loonies want to entrap to make them feel like your both somehow slightly intelligent .....

If me and the Lizard overlords get our way...were sterilising you and using your brain as an ashtray.......
IF anyone believes ANYTHING you say....they need sterilising as well
SHUT UP...stop looking on Facebook and YouTube...get a job, get out and read a book that doesn't involve UFO's and aliens.

#Loony #Rant #BringBackNationalService #DontLetThemBreed #IBlameTheSchools
Tbf it's not a vaccine in the true sense of the word. It's a medicine to reduce the worst of the effects. There's not really a drug on earth that can stop any virus entering a person. Flu comes every year because the flu vaccine doesn't stop flu just reduces the worst of the impact. It's disingenuous to claim otherwise. I'm not someone who thinks covid is fake or being done to wipe us out but I do think it's been overamplified for reasons unknown to me.
 
Tbf it's not a vaccine in the true sense of the word. It's a medicine to reduce the worst of the effects. There's not really a drug on earth that can stop any virus entering a person. Flu comes every year because the flu vaccine doesn't stop flu just reduces the worst of the impact. It's disingenuous to claim otherwise. I'm not someone who thinks covid is fake or being done to wipe us out but I do think it's been overamplified for reasons unknown to me.
The reason is most health services worldwide are run on no margins and it doesn't take much to tip them in to shutdown.
 
I'm not sure why from what I have said you assume I have no concern about respiratory illness/death and the effect this has on families, of course when deaths occur this is very tragic. My only point was until the injections are mandated people should be left alone to make informed choice about whether they or their families get injected and shouldn't be ridiculed/coerced to take them.
I suggest people make this choice armed with all the facts and not just the ones presented conveniently by governments and mainstream media to forward their agendas.
Oh, Tycho. The facts are there. Vaccines and masks both protect and help prevent the spread. The vast majority of the population are conforming because they want to help themselves and others.
Obviously, I can’t persuade you to appreciate the fact you are not.....true?
We all know our history: freedom of speech, respect for others. I’m doing my bit and millions of others are. Can you say the same?
I’m now going to “Google” Tycho Brahe. You picked the name for a reason?
 
If someone wants a juicy conspiracy they should investigate global share trades just before covid kicked off...look and see if there was any mass dumping of hospitality and airline shares or hoovering up of shares in pharmaceutical or PPE companies etc. I have no insight into whether there is any traction to this but I believe there was evidence of similar share spike movements prior to 9/11...searchable provable evidence as well not just heresay. It's always amazing how the super rich see these things coming...maybe they ate just much cleverer than us mere mortals...who knows...
 
If someone wants a juicy conspiracy they should investigate global share trades just before covid kicked off...look and see if there was any mass dumping of hospitality and airline shares or hoovering up of shares in pharmaceutical or PPE companies etc. I have no insight into whether there is any traction to this but I believe there was evidence of similar share spike movements prior to 9/11...searchable provable evidence as well not just heresay. It's always amazing how the super rich see these things coming...maybe they ate just much cleverer than us mere mortals...who knows...
Follow the money ... always.
 
The Mrs has a morbid fascination with obituaries on YouTube, surprising how many personalities worldwide have died from Covid.
 
Oh, Tycho. The facts are there. Vaccines and masks both protect and help prevent the spread. The vast majority of the population are conforming because they want to help themselves and others.
Obviously, I can’t persuade you to appreciate the fact you are not.....true?
We all know our history: freedom of speech, respect for others. I’m doing my bit and millions of others are. Can you say the same?
I’m now going to “Google” Tycho Brahe. You picked the name for a reason?
I'm afraid everyone is going to disagree on all these serious matters and become polarised. More divide and rule for our slave masters as we make their jobs easier by fighting amongst ourselves.
 
No reply for me..... 🤔

Your slave master just told you to hide under the sofa until the nasty man goes away....
As 99% of what you say has been proved to be wrong or mis-information...is that the illuminati trying to silence you 'free thinkers'
Not managed to show any evidence to back up your crazy/self deluded comments....unless it comes from Facebook.

Anyway...I've registered your IP address and sent it to the Reptilian Overloads...
I would wear that tin foil hat to bed over the next few days...don't want those Venusians sucking your brain out through an anal probe
 
I'm afraid everyone is going to disagree on all these serious matters and become polarised. More divide and rule for our slave masters as we make their jobs easier by fighting amongst ourselves.
16th century Astrologer, astronomer.......a sort of less well known Nostradamus. So, are you predicting that COVID will...........?
 
I'm not sure why from what I have said you assume I have no concern about respiratory illness/death and the effect this has on families, of course when deaths occur this is very tragic. My only point was until the injections are mandated people should be left alone to make informed choice about whether they or their families get injected and shouldn't be ridiculed/coerced to take them.
I suggest people


make this choice armed with all the facts and not just the ones presented conveniently by governments and mainstream media to forward their agendas.
Could the NHS then choose not to treat them or at least put them on the ‘standby’ list when they become infected?

Of course we wouldn’t because the NHS does not judge in this way which is fortunate as in a private / insured treatment world i could certainly see that happening

I see that there are poor souls hospitalised in Bolton now from the new variant after making their informed choice based on probably Facebook or Twitter sites? Good job they ignored the main stream media blathering on about having the vaccineDD0A423E-9F97-4F6F-8E76-6E2BFAF446E7.jpeg
 
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I think quite a lot of people in the age ranges under 50 have probably held back off taking the vaccine or not been as keen as others in the more vulnerable or older bracket as throughout this whole charade they’ve been told by many including the CMO that the virus won’t effect them at all and there is a 99.94% recovery rate.

The narrative seems to have flipped now from vaccinating the vulnerable to the non-vulnerable now being selfish and putting others at risk if they don’t have a vaccine they were originally told they didn’t need?

Oh and the Indian variant stuff died down as predicted, but it got the vaccine uptake going in Bolton over the weekend at least 👍🏼

Not seen a marketing campaign like this since the Riga revolution.
 
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