COVID refusniks

Ragnarok said:
If someone wants a juicy conspiracy they should investigate global share trades just before covid kicked off...look and see if there was any mass dumping of hospitality and airline shares or hoovering up of shares in pharmaceutical or PPE companies etc. I have no insight into whether there is any traction to this but I believe there was evidence of similar share spike movements prior to 9/11...searchable provable evidence as well not just heresay. It's always amazing how the super rich see these things coming...maybe they ate just much cleverer than us mere mortals...who knows...
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It’s bollocks. Share prices started dropping as soon as the virus started to spread outside China.
 
Chunkylad said:
Could the NHS then choose not to treat them or at least put them on the ‘standby’ list when they become infected?

Of course we wouldn’t because the NHS does not judge in this way which is fortunate as in a private / insured treatment world i could certainly see that happening

I see that there are poor souls hospitalised in Bolton now from the new variant after making their informed choice based on probably Facebook or Twitter sites? Good job they ignored the main stream media blathering on about having the vaccineView attachment 6141
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The Bolton MP says that the majority of those hospitalised had been vaccinated.
 
Chunkylad said:
Really? Interesting. Hadn’t read that

www.google.co.uk

Most Covid patients in Bolton with Indian strain had refused to have vaccine

There have now been 2,323 confirmed UK cases of the coronavirus variant first identified in India, Matt Hancock has said.
www.google.co.uk www.google.co.uk

Last I’d read was opposite so must have changed
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From what I've read Hancock went with his version and she then informed the media that 5 out of 9 of them had been vaccinated to some extent. Those figures have probably changed now it was a couple of days ago.
 
Chunkylad said:
Could the NHS then choose not to treat them or at least put them on the ‘standby’ list when they become infected?

Of course we wouldn’t because the NHS does not judge in this way which is fortunate as in a private / insured treatment world i could certainly see that happening

I see that there are poor souls hospitalised in Bolton now from the new variant after making their informed choice based on probably Facebook or Twitter sites? Good job they ignored the main stream media blathering on about having the vaccineView attachment 6141
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We'll see when the experimental gene therapy injection trial finishes in 2023 and all the data is analysed whether mainstream media were right to push the vaccine. If they are wrong I'm sure they'll make an apology on the footnote of page 28 or something for the millions that died and suffered unnecessarily due to their guesswork.
 
"Tyrannical overreach", "slave masters", "globalist puppets", "dark triad traits", and now "experimental gene therapy injections" all in one thread! Brilliant!

Entertaining stuff Tycho, but completely hatstand of course.

Your brand of intense paranoia, and fixation on the evils of a collective "main stream media" in tandem with world government oppression seem rather familiar.

Did you post as "Dodgy keeper" in another incarnation on here?
 
Tycho Brahe said:
We'll see when the experimental gene therapy injection trial finishes in 2023 and all the data is analysed whether mainstream media were right to push the vaccine. If they are wrong I'm sure they'll make an apology on the footnote of page 28 or something for the millions that died and suffered unnecessarily due to their guesswork.
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Agreed in 2023 we will know the impact of mass vaccination.

As we stand today, those people vaccinating are no longer dying of Covid.
The countries with the highest levels of vaccination have the lowest current numbers of deaths and are in recovery. England recorded 0 deaths on a day recently as mass vaccination kicks in. USA has states recording similar.

Im a technologist not a scientist or medical expert but the anecdotal evidence I see above makes me really question why you wouldn’t vaccinate if you were over 50 If you are young and want to back your own immune system to win against Covid then go for it - don’t vaccinate.
 
B_Side_The_C_Side said:
Quotes from our resident YouTube/Facebook Loony..

"There is zero evidence that the injections will stop (Covid)"......A Lie, look what's happening in front of you with deaths and positive tests are dropping both in the UK/Europe/USA...thats 100% proof of evidence that the vaccine works

"Covid, the makers don't even claim that they will".....Lies, yes they do. It's a VACINNE...what do you think a vaccine does.

#Loony #Rant #BringBackNationalService #DontLetThemBreed #IBlameTheSchools
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Funny thread. I never did get my cash incentive, just Bad Cop Bad Cop. Tycho wasn't wrong was he? (apart from the slave masters bit 😂)
 
rockontommy said:
Funny thread. I never did get my cash incentive, just Bad Cop Bad Cop. Tycho wasn't wrong was he? (apart from the slave masters bit 😂)
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He’s changed his name again Rot.

I’m still not sure if he was right or wrong to be honest? Did the vaccine reduce the numbers dying - I would say a unreserved yes, but you might present stats otherwise?

Has this been a gene experiment that will be foretold as a disaster next year? Let’s see…..
 
Chunkylad said:
I think more people have died of Covid who were not vaccinated than those vaccinated.
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As a rough and ready guess, before vaccination JCVI groups 1 - 4 accounted for 88% of deaths and groups 1 - 9 accounted for 99% of deaths, there are 15m people in the first group and 32m in the second.

Looking at first jab progress, everyone up to group 4 would've had their first jabs by middle February and group 9 were done by 9 April, although you should allow a week to 14 days for the vaccine to take full effect.

If you look at certified deaths then by that point roughly 150,000 had died (and 100,000 before the programme even kicked off), so if you make the assumption that all those who died before that point were unvaccinated then approximately 80% of deaths were in the unvaccinated and 20% were vaccinated.

Not perfect I know, in reality some of the deaths before that point would've been vaccinated, and many after weren't vaccinated, but when you're dealing with numbers on this scale it's probably close enough.
 
Chunkylad said:
He’s changed his name again Rot.

I’m still not sure if he was right or wrong to be honest? Did the vaccine reduce the numbers dying - I would say a unreserved yes, but you might present stats otherwise?

Has this been a gene experiment that will be foretold as a disaster next year? Let’s see…..
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He was talking about the spread, I think. That was the lie which he was challenging. I think you were spot on about the over 50s and vulnerable being stupid if declining the jab. I didn't really understand the push to get it into the arms of those who were young and/or plain didn't want it. I think some of the twats in charge thought they were colouring in a colouring book or something and wanted to do every page. It became a bit OCD / nasty with some wanting 100% compliance with every element of the Covvies and restrictions.
 
rockontommy said:
He was talking about the spread, I think. That was the lie which he was challenging. I think you were spot on about the over 50s and vulnerable being stupid if declining the jab. I didn't really understand the push to get it into the arms of those who were young and/or plain didn't want it. I think some of the twats in charge thought they were colouring in a colouring book or something and wanted to do every page. It became a bit OCD / nasty with some wanting 100% compliance with every element of the Covvies and restrictions.
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That I can agree with completely
 
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