Do we need another striker?

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BFC76

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Just looking at goals scored last season (and don't forget 6 came in one game), we were 14th in the league and 9/10 goals behind three of the Play Off sides. Bearing in mind we currently have four strikers (and Daniels coming through), do we still need another striker?

For me, we need a 10 goal scoring central midfielder - last season Kenny got one and Stewart failed to hit the target - is that where we get those extra goals or do we need another striker (and let's not forget we might be 8 goals down if Josh goes).
 
Simple answer is Yes, fact is we didn’t score enough goals and you cannot keep blaming the service as we created plenty of chances and sometimes the strikers need to make it happen for themselves. So someone needs to make way for an incoming striker, maybe Jerry or find him another role out wide?
 
Simply answer is no

We don't get the ball to the strikers we have so until we improve on the creativity from midfield its a waste of time and money signing more strikers

We could have Ronaldo upfront and still struggle to score

Look at the stats our EG has been one of the lowest in the league all season 😳
 
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Devonshire said:
Simple answer is Yes, fact is we didn’t score enough goals and you cannot keep blaming the service as we created plenty of chances and sometimes the strikers need to make it happen for themselves. So someone needs to make way for an incoming striker, maybe Jerry or find him another role out wide?
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did we create plenty of chances? Not for me we didn't.
 
Briggsysgonagetya said:
We need better strikers, but they aint cheap.
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Which is why I , with hindsight wouldn't have given Madine another year and used those wages towards better quality.
Devonshire said:
Simple answer is Yes, fact is we didn’t score enough goals and you cannot keep blaming the service as we created plenty of chances and sometimes the strikers need to make it happen for themselves. So someone needs to make way for an incoming striker, maybe Jerry or find him another role out wide?
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I wouldn't lose Yates, nor Lavery. In the right team they'd be very good players. Even if Yates doesn't score as many his closing down up top is first rate.
 
I'm with DSOTL and Phil on this. For me, if we make only one significant signing in the closed season it has to be a midfielder who can run the show and create chances. And to get the quality we need that might not be cheap so it might well be the only 'big' signing we can afford. It is that lack of chances not the quality of the forwards that hampered us, in my view. I have confidence that all our forward line can score enough goals, but only if they get the service.
 
We need a better standard and pedigree of striker, but I cannot see it happening for this up coming season.

Jerry's on 10k p/w, no one else is giving him that or paying the £1/1.5 M to get him out of that.

Gazza, Lavery and Beesely all under contract for next season and no one is going to give us a fee for any of them, so I can't see there being room for anyone else at this time.

In 12 months I'd imagine we'll have a major turn over in these strikers.
 
Thatseasider said:
We need a better standard and pedigree of striker, but I cannot see it happening for this up coming season.

Jerry's on 10k p/w, no one else is giving him that or paying the £1/1.5 M to get him out of that.

Gazza, Lavery and Beesely all under contract for next season and no one is going to give us a fee for any of them, so I can't see there being room for anyone else at this time.

In 12 months I'd imagine we'll have a major turn over in these strikers.
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Which it now looks strange to give Madine that contract.
 
All four of our strikers could do with some improvement, but I'd say what's more important is that we create more chances for them. Whilst none of them scored enough goals, I also don't remember any of them missing many sitters. Still, I'd like to see a S***s brought in and perhaps Yates moved on.
 
fcblackpool said:
Which it now looks strange to give Madine that contract.
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I think with Jerry's contract we've put a lot of resource in him hoping he pops and is a saleable asset, it hasn't quiet happened yet and we needed Gary back for next year to provide us with a bit of bang for a limited amount of buck.

Think we'll have a rebalancing in this area next year, midfield is the priority this summer, desperately need two creative types, where we can give the strikers no excuses for low goal returns.
 
Thatseasider said:
We need a better standard and pedigree of striker, but I cannot see it happening for this up coming season.

Jerry's on 10k p/w, no one else is giving him that or paying the £1/1.5 M to get him out of that.

Gazza, Lavery and Beesely all under contract for next season and no one is going to give us a fee for any of them, so I can't see there being room for anyone else at this time.

In 12 months I'd imagine we'll have a major turn over in these strikers.
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How do you know he's on 10K per week?
 
Thatseasider said:
I think with Jerry's contract we've put a lot of resource in him hoping he pops and is a saleable asset, it hasn't quiet happened yet and we needed Gary back for next year to provide us with a bit of bang for a limited amount of buck.

Think we'll have a rebalancing in this area next year, midfield is the priority this summer, desperately need two creative types, where we can give the strikers no excuses for low goal returns.
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Looks to me like all the eggs have gone in Madine's basket, with that the flexibility has gone or been seriously reduced.
 
I'm not sure the problem actually lies with the forwards, we need to provide decent ammunition for the ones we've got. If we were creating loads of chances and the forwards not taking them, it would be a different story. We have zero creativity in the middle of the park, that's the problem that needs sorting.
 
One of the main problems is our formation which when attacking becomes a 4-2-4 with the R/L backs often overlapping you need your two midfielders to sit so not sure how we fit this attacking goal scoring midfielder in without changing tactics.

We've tried Keshi in that role it worked for one game and the rest not.

With having four strikers we need to shift one before bringing one in and for me sorry to say it would have to be Jerry but if true 10k a week it would have to be a loan and we pick up some of his wages.
 
No way is Yates on 10k a week. Sandler is a shrewd businessman and would not pay 500k a year to a striker who had one good season in League One.
 
Yates wants to leave.

Our front four next year will be Madine, Beesley, Lavery and a new addition.

Bradley Holmes or Daniels expected to break through at some point, imagine Holmes over Daniels.
 
KingZobo said:
Yates wants to leave
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Seems to be received wisdom on here (but likely complete fantasy in the real world)

Quite apart from what he (supposedly) wants, is there any club that is eager to sign him and can afford him?

No.

Probably 15 players in our squad more likely to leave than Jerry.
 
Can anyone enlighten me as to where these Yates leaving murmurs have come from their has been no substance or any credible source to say that he wants to leave all hot air
 
Hevster said:
I'm with DSOTL and Phil on this. For me, if we make only one significant signing in the closed season it has to be a midfielder who can run the show and create chances. And to get the quality we need that might not be cheap so it might well be the only 'big' signing we can afford. It is that lack of chances not the quality of the forwards that hampered us, in my view. I have confidence that all our forward line can score enough goals, but only if they get the service.
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I still think Virtue could prove to be the attacking midfielder we have been crying out for along with Carey, it gives us a lot better options than last season
 
The problem of so few chances created and taken is primarily because we play a centre forward that can barely run in far to many games. You could have De Bruyne, Zidane, Cruyff or Platini playing as your creative attacking midfielder big Gaz wouldn't outpace a defender and latch on to the through ball and score. Somebody like Ellis Simms might.
No point playing a through ball on the deck for Madine because he is slower than most of the centre backs he comes up against.
Little point in knocking it long to Madine as he rarely takes it down and plays it through for his strike partner and if he gets a head on it the ball can go anywhere.
He provides some threat at set pieces but pace is obviously not an issue in that situation like it is in open play. If our full backs or wingers do get a cross into the box in open play he is usually a yard or two off it.
I look at the big centre forwards for almost any team in any division and they nearly all have pace and mobility as a bare minimum, Madine has neither.
I'm just amazed that Critchley and so many of our supporters can't see it.
 
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Agree with many of the posters that the problem lies in midfield. Sick of watching hoofball up to Madine because we can't plat it through the middle of the park. Need a couple of midfielders. Yates and Lavery are good enough to score goals at this level if they get the service
 
I'm right Phil!! He's probably had more minutes on the pitch than any of our other forwards, don't think he has a single assist to his name and very few goals in open play.
He isn't the only problem, we don't create enough but his role as target man is to score and create and he doesn't do enough of either.
Probably be highlighted more if we do get a player that can pick a forward pass in the final third and big Gaz is still lumbering around not getting anywhere near it!!
 
gjr69 said:
The problem of so few chances created and taken is primarily because we play a centre forward that can barely run in far to many games. You could have De Bruyne, Zidane, Cruyff or Platini playing as your creative attacking midfielder big Gaz wouldn't outpace a defender and latch on to the through ball and score. Somebody like Ellis Simms might.
No point playing a through ball on the deck for Madine because he is slower than most of the centre backs he comes up against.
Little point in knocking it long to Madine as he rarely takes it down and plays it through for his strike partner and if he gets a head on it the ball can go anywhere.
He provides some threat at set pieces but pace is obviously not an issue in that situation like it is in open play. If our full backs or wingers do get a cross into the box in open play he is usually a yard or two off it.
I look at the big centre forwards for almost any team in any division and they nearly all have pace and mobility as a bare minimum, Madine has neither.
I'm just amazed that Critchley and so many of our supporters can't see it.
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Hallelujah! 😆
 
gjr69 said:
I'm right Phil!! He's probably had more minutes on the pitch than any of our other forwards, don't think he has a single assist to his name and very few goals in open play.
He isn't the only problem, we don't create enough but his role as target man is to score and create and he doesn't do enough of either.
Probably be highlighted more if we do get a player that can pick a forward pass in the final third and big Gaz is still lumbering around not getting anywhere near it!!
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Madine's best chance of goals is when he attacks the ball with his head. That meand a wide player (CJ) getting to the line and pulling it back. Needs to be palying on the left though.
 
Hevster said:
I'm with DSOTL and Phil on this. For me, if we make only one significant signing in the closed season it has to be a midfielder who can run the show and create chances. And to get the quality we need that might not be cheap so it might well be the only 'big' signing we can afford. It is that lack of chances not the quality of the forwards that hampered us, in my view. I have confidence that all our forward line can score enough goals, but only if they get the service.
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Or a decent loan
 
KingZobo said:
Yates wants to leave.

Our front four next year will be Madine, Beesley, Lavery and a new addition.

Bradley Holmes or Daniels expected to break through at some point, imagine Holmes over Daniels.
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Saw Holmes play at Chorley. Some nice touches but looked a bit lost most of the time. He is way off championship standard at present. I think Daniels is a better prospect.
 
TKL_Seasider said:
Seems to be received wisdom on here (but likely complete fantasy in the real world)

Quite apart from what he (supposedly) wants, is there any club that is eager to sign him and can afford him?

No.

Probably 15 players in our squad more likely to leave than Jerry.
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We'll see what happens won't we.
 
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Imagine it's hard playing with pub players. Has Daniels done much more?
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I THINK WE WOULD SCORE MORE GOALS WITH BETTER DELIVERY FROM FREE KICKS AND CORNERS SO FOR ME A BALL PLAYING FORWARD THINKING MIDFIELDER.
 
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