Electric Scooters (again )

Limechase

Limechase

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I understand they are not legal on the roads?, are plod doing ANYTHING about them scooting up the inside & in front of traffic.... Never seen one being stopped, or heard of them being confiscated, or even stopped? or are they picking & choosing which laws they feel like enforcing?

Will be an outcry when someone gets injured or killed, but bugger all will be done if one causes damage to a fully licenced & insured car..

Feel free to join in my indignation, or disagree
 
Limechase said:
I understand they are not legal on the roads?, are plod doing ANYTHING about them scooting up the inside & in front of traffic.... Never seen one being stopped, or heard of them being confiscated, or even stopped? or are they picking & choosing which laws they feel like enforcing?

Will be an outcry when someone gets injured or killed, but bugger all will be done if one causes damage to a fully licenced & insured car..

Feel free to join in my indignation, or disagree
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Completely agree. They made it illegal to sell electric bikes without pedal assist, should do the same for electric scooters. Only a matter of time before some little old dear ends up hospitalised, or worse.
 
Agree absolutely.
They are a powered mode of transport and should therefore be required by law to be insured, and users wear helmets.
 
southshore said:
Completely agree. They made it illegal to sell electric bikes without pedal assist, should do the same for electric scooters. Only a matter of time before some little old dear ends up hospitalised, or worse.
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AFAIK, it's still perfectly legal to sell e-bikes without pedal assist, just as it's perfectly legal to sell e-bikes with 10 or 20 times the power output of a road legal bike, it's just not legal to use them on public roads, but as with scooters the police seem to have no interest in enforcing the laws that do exist.
 
The police don't do anything, I was behind an X5 traffic car last night from Squires Gate to Cherry Tree Rd, must have been going for his tea at the headquarters because he drove past three of them on the road.
 
I am forever bollocking the kids for using them on our recidencia ,they are supposed to be walkways/footpaths ,but its a waste of time ive told parents about it with no real joy, the kids just say sorry and carry on.
 
An electric wheelchair just drove past the house, on the footpath going towards Poulton centre.
Behind the wheelchair, also on the footpath was an overweight woman on a bike, on the footpath.
The footpath there is quite narrow.
I wonder how many pedestrians had to step into the road let them pass between here and Poulton Centre.???
Also, regularly there is a guy on an electric scooter on the footpath doing at least 15/20MPH.
Coppers ignore them.
 
Lost Seasider said:
AFAIK, it's still perfectly legal to sell e-bikes without pedal assist, just as it's perfectly legal to sell e-bikes with 10 or 20 times the power output of a road legal bike, it's just not legal to use them on public roads, but as with scooters the police seem to have no interest in enforcing the laws that do exist.
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Not what I've been told in bike shops when discussing e bikes.
 
At least 57 pedestrians were injured after being hit by e-scooters across the UK last year, new figures from the Department of Transport (DfT) have shown.

The electronic vehicles have started to become popular forms of transport over the last couple of years, although privately owned e-scooters are not legally allowed on roads or pavements.


A number of e-scooter rental schemes have been launched since July 2020, as part of government trials, but these have been met with some criticism.

TfL is trialling the use of e-scooters on London roads, as is parts of the West Midlands

Image:Figures show 57 pedestrians were hurt after being hit by e-scooters across the UK last year
The DfT figures have revealed 13 of the 57 people injured over the last year were left in a "serious" condition.

Twenty-two people in other vehicles and 21 cyclists were also involved in collisions with the scooters.


The majority of those who were injured were recorded as being aged at least 40, while nine were 70 and above, and eight children aged under 10 were also injured.

The figures also showed that one e-scooter user was killed, with a further 383 also injured last year.

Source: SKY News.
 
southshore said:
Not what I've been told in bike shops when discussing e bikes.
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That's an over-simplified version of the law, they can sell what they like from those shops, they just choose not to sell ones that are not compliant with the regulations.

The complex version is that they are exempted from being motor vehicles by Section 189 RTA 1988, provided they meet the definition contained within https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1983/1168/regulation/4/made (note that link is out of date thanks to changes made by EAPC regulations 2015

Nothing within the act or regulations prevents the sale of non-compliant EAPCs.
 
Bloodtangerine said:
I’m thinking of getting one, they look fun.

Anyone know any place you can get the regulator taken off as I want to go a bit faster than the restrictive speed limit they legally have to put on them?
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Just go on the internet, there are plenty of places willing to sell you something that goes far beyond what you can legally use on the road.
 
Constantly dodging these fuckers in east London, mainly on the pavement, absolute tossers.

They’re dangerous, ban them.
 
Lost Seasider said:
That's an over-simplified version of the law, they can sell what they like from those shops, they just choose not to sell ones that are not compliant with the regulations.

The complex version is that they are exempted from being motor vehicles by Section 189 RTA 1988, provided they meet the definition contained within https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1983/1168/regulation/4/made (note that link is out of date thanks to changes made by EAPC regulations 2015

Nothing within the act or regulations prevents the sale of non-compliant EAPCs.
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Bet it is illegal to shoot the f*ckers with an air rifle.

Law is an ass.
 
Maybe we should all get one. Think of it as saving the planet. Government are pushing electric cars which are expensive and we don’t have the infrastructure for nationally. These things could be our zero carbon footprint salvation. And if you happen to be unlucky enough to be clobbered by one, the least you’ll end up with is bruised shins rather than thrown over the bonnet. 😏
 
They will soon put a large purchase tax on them the more popular they become ! A couple of teenagers ran a red light at Four lane ends Thornton doing 20 odd mph two abrest all the way to Amounderness way Roundabout and the same all the way to Carleton last week 😳
 
Just saw a middle aged bloke, waiting at the traffic lights in the middle of the road on an electric scooter, like he was in a car, probably commuting to work, like there was nothing wrong? No insurance, no helmet? yet I do 31mph in a 30 zone......
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
The police don't do anything, I was behind an X5 traffic car last night from Squires Gate to Cherry Tree Rd, must have been going for his tea at the headquarters because he drove past three of them on the road.
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They were only endangering lives. Had they been tweeting unfavourable tweets against whatever the latest ‘thing’ is they would have been handcuffed, arrested and sent to have their thinking checked.
 
They are a brilliant bit of green tech. Sadly used predominantly by little wankers. Used properly they could be a fabulous means of economical transport for adults to commute on.

Properly licenced and with insurance I'd have no issue. But they are sold everywhere including reputable stores to any old knob knowing they are not legal.
 
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