England v Scotland Match Thread

I wouldn't want to go overboard with Southgate over one game but media darling is all he is and that's just because he does everything they ask of him.

For me, he is one of the luckiest England managers of all time and couldn't believe he got the job in the first place.

I said I didn't want to go overboard with the criticism but you can add FA yes man to his attributes.

Not for me but I don't give a feck as Scotland give themselves a chance of progress
100% agree that he is a media darling. Interview with Mings who admits the team lacked intensity. No mention of that to Southgate - you have failed as a manager if you can’t get your team up for a game like that !
 
Way too many are picked on reputation; Sterling and Kane being the biggest examples. We have the likes of Sancho, Calvert-Lewin and Grealish on the bench, who look so much sharper.

As for Shaw and James, they offered nothing going forward, Southgate got so much wrong tonight. Mount and Rice were anonymous for large spells and yet again our delivery was woeful. It was like Iceland all over again as so many corners hit the first man. I'd like to think Southgate is tearing into them but suspect he'll be too busy jaffing himself off at the clean sheet and dodging one of the big guns in the next round.
DCL was very poor in the pre-tournament friendly and although he had a great start to last season his goals generally dried up. Not in Kane's class but yep, Kane is struggling too, All strikers need service though and i think it reasonable to say there has been very little of that in our two games to date.
 
I’m sorry but if I were Southgate, I would resign tonight after that Sunday league performance. That was abhorrent, I’m sorry but it is not acceptable, when I see Blackpool, I see fight, desire, class and excitement. What do I see from watching England? Absolutely nothing, when are we gonna learn? 😔
 
DCL was very poor in the pre-tournament friendly and although he had a great start to last season his goals generally dried up. Not in Kane's class but yep, Kane is struggling too, All strikers need service though and i think it reasonable to say there has been very little of that in our two games to date.
Just admit it, that's back to back games of nothing from Kane. He doesn't deserve to start.
 
You have to be better than preventing the opposition from letting you play. The best teams in Europe can still play despite the opposition’s intentions.
Not good enough:
Agreed, the top teams more often than not can adapt to how the opposition is playing… it’s called having a plan B, C etc. I’m not even sure we had a plan A tonight!
 
Not sure there were many 5 or 6 nil predictions Dumfries lad.
Think most said it would be a shit game and we might just scrape home with an odd goal.
So half right at least. 😂

Come on gents, there are plenty on here saying England are chite but Dumfries isn't allowed to do so.

Surely the last thing we want on the board is racism ?
 
I'm living in Scotland at the moment and they're celebrating like they won the whole thing. Reminds me of the time pne beat us in the league cup. When they get beat by Croatia it'll all go quiet again
 
On paper we have the quality.
We either have had utter complacency tonight or shite managerial decisions and team talks.
Take your pick.
 
We've only got Kane & Calvert-Lewin who I'd consider as out & out strikers the other 2 are Sterling & Rashford (who's form isn't great ATM) I
I've seen us struggle at Bloomfield rd. where people have shouted "get FFing the lot of them off" & one change in midfield has totally transformed things. Boy we need something to change on Tuesday.
 
No one is crying into their soup.
Disappointed by a shite performed is allowed.
That’s what critique is all about.
It needs balance though, we've four points and haven't conceded in two games.

All this 'England are shit' stuff is obviously wrong. We lack creativity, the rest is solid. For all their 'played well' bollocks, Scotland forced one fairly routine-ish save from Pickford and that was it, we hit the post, that goes in and it opens the game up which we probably would have exploited.

It was boring and dull but got the job done, as usual we're not shit and we're not world beaters.
 
I've seen teams gather pace & go on to produce when it really matters like the KO stages. Question is do I really believe it.🤨
 
OK, but a bit OTT given that you'll go through.
I think it depends on whether you expect a decent credible passionate performance from your national team or a lacklustre performance devoid of entertainment.
I’d rather we went out with passion than went through to the next round with a shower of shite performance.
We agree to differ on that one 👍
 
I've seen teams gather pace & go on to produce when it really matters like the KO stages. Question is do I really believe it.🤨
I don't really, we're not going to win it, but who remembers the group games from 1990, they were crap, (I couldn't tell you a single thing about the Dutch game for example but I know I watched it, I can't even remember the scorer in the Egypt game), or the Switzerland draw from 96 or even going back to 66 and the Uruguay game?

You get out of the group, that's all that counts, it doesn't matter how you do it. The most famous example is Italy in 82, didn't win a group game against Peru, Poland or Cameroon and scored two goals, they were terrible.
 
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I don't really, we're not going to win it, but who remembers the group games from 1990, they were crap, (I couldn't tell you a single thing about the Dutch game for example but I know I watched it, I can't even remember the scorer in the Egypt game), or the Switzerland draw from 96 or even going back to 66 and the Uruguay game?

You get out of the group, that's all that counts, it doesn't matter how you do it. The most famous example is Italy in 82, didn't win a group game against Peru, Poland or Cameroon and scored two goals, they were terrible.
Italy was in my mind. Stranger things have happened like getting to the Prem whilst the scum were in charge. I'm probably mad but I always believe we could do it. 😀
 
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