EPL Owners & Directors Test

1966_and_all_that

1966_and_all_that

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So, the English Premier League is seeing 'no red flags' in its consideration of the Owners & Directors' Test relating to the Saudi Sovereign Wealth Fund's proposed buy-out of Newcastle Utd. This, according to sources close to the process.
Let me see:
The Saudi Government failed to provide full accountability in 2019 for the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi by Saudi Agents in 2018;
Saudi Courts in 2019 continued to impose the death penalty for a wide range of crimes - using executions by both firing squad and hanging (sometimes in public);
Death sentences were often based on confessions extracted under torture;
As at June 2019, at least 7,292 civilian deaths had occurred in the Yemen, the majority being carried out by Saudi-led air strikes;
Oh yes, and women and girls continue to be discriminated against in law and are inadequately protected against sexual and other forms of violence.
But, you might say, what has this got to do with the Saudi Sovereign Wealth Fund?
Unfortunately - everything. It is Government-owned. The head of the Government is the Prime-Minister, who is also the King. The controller of the Sovereign Wealth Fund is the Deputy PM and the King's brother, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.
There...that's a nice little tale isn't it?
 
1966_and_all_that said:
So, the English Premier League is seeing 'no red flags' in its consideration of the Owners & Directors' Test relating to the Saudi Sovereign Wealth Fund's proposed buy-out of Newcastle Utd. This, according to sources close to the process.
Let me see:
The Saudi Government failed to provide full accountability in 2019 for the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi by Saudi Agents in 2018;
Saudi Courts in 2019 continued to impose the death penalty for a wide range of crimes - using executions by both firing squad and hanging (sometimes in public);
Death sentences were often based on confessions extracted under torture;
As at June 2019, at least 7,292 civilian deaths had occurred in the Yemen, the majority being carried out by Saudi-led air strikes;
Oh yes, and women and girls continue to be discriminated against in law and are inadequately protected against sexual and other forms of violence.
But, you might say, what has this got to do with the Saudi Sovereign Wealth Fund?
Unfortunately - everything. It is Government-owned. The head of the Government is the Prime-Minister, who is also the King. The controller of the Sovereign Wealth Fund is the Deputy PM and the King's brother, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.
There...that's a nice little tale isn't it?
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Yup and said as much on the Newcastle thread where they've also got a problem with pirate streams of PL matches in their country.

Mind you the Qatar World Cup is still going ahead so humanitarian issues dont seem to be a problem with the governing bodies.
 
I've no argument about what sort of people these are.

But take a closer look at the people who are making the most fuss about this, and ask yourself why.

I also agree with you about the O&DT. As enforced (that is, not) in this country, it may as well not exist.

And as Plumbs says, the examples in terms of morality stem right from the top.
 
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basilrobbie said:
I've no argument about what sort of people these are.

But take a closer look at the people who are making the most fuss about this, and ask yourself why.

I also agree with you about the O&DT. As enforced (that us, not) in this country, it may as well not exist.

And as Plumbs says, the examples in terms of morality stem right from the top.
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I'll not take issue with your post about the people who are making the most fuss, because I'm not actually sure what you mean.
However, the people who should be making the most fuss are the women being beaten-up and raped in marriage, those condemned to death on spurious charges, the Yemenis being bombed. But, of course, what do they compare with the thousands salivating over possibility of becoming a great Club again?
 
Plumbs said:
Yup and said as much on the Newcastle thread where they've also got a problem with pirate streams of PL matches in their country.

Mind you the Qatar World Cup is still going ahead so humanitarian issues dont seem to be a problem with the governing bodies.
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Apologies Plumbs, I must have missed the Newcastle thread - don't want to waste peoples' time repeating stuff.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
I'll not take issue with your post about the people who are making the most fuss, because I'm not actually sure what you mean.
However, the people who should be making the most fuss are the women being beaten-up and raped in marriage, those condemned to death on spurious charges, the Yemenis being bombed. But, of course, what do they compare with the thousands salivating over possibility of becoming a great Club again?
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What I meant was that the organisation making the most fuss is based in Qatar ; there is a lot of speculation that this spat is merely a proxy for a rather larger diplomatic dispute between Qatar and the Saudis that has been going on a long while.

As for the rest of your post, as I thought I had made clear, morality clearly has no place at the top of world football. To that extent, I agree with you. The regime in Saudi Arabia is a disgustingly repressive and backward one that wouldn't look out of place in The Stone Age.
 
basilrobbie said:
What I meant was that the organisation making the most fuss is based in Qatar ; there is a lot of speculation that this spat is merely a proxy for a rather larger diplomatic dispute between Qatar and the Saudis that has been going on a long while.

As for the rest of your post, as I thought I had made clear, morality clearly has no place at the top of world football. To that extent, I agree with you. The regime in Saudi Arabia is a disgustingly repressive and backward one that wouldn't look out of place in The Stone Age.
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Yes, no problem with the rest of your original post; I got that and I somehow think we're in violent agreement. As for the Qatar/Saudi thing you've now clarified your point for me, so thanks.
 
Its tricky though because to deny the Saudis will probably have some impact on UK-Saudi 'diplomacy' & possible business deals.
It may also leave the EPL open to an expensive Court case?
Interesting that the Saudis have a woman fronting the deal 😁
There is no doubt that money often trumps morals but that is the case all over the World unfortunately.




Perhaps the Saudis are trying to modernise but in many areas imho they have a long road to travel.
 
deary said:
Its tricky though because to deny the Saudis will probably have some impact on UK-Saudi 'diplomacy' & possible business deals.
It may also leave the EPL open to an expensive Court case?
Interesting that the Saudis have a woman fronting the deal 😁
There is no doubt that money often trumps morals but that is the case all over the World unfortunately.




Perhaps the Saudis are trying to modernise but in many areas imho they have a long road to travel.
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Ah yes, that old diplomatic fallback....we give you loads of business so it would be in your best interests to turn a blind eye.
 
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