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tangerinenotorange

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The EU Settlement Scheme (EUSS) requires EU immigrants in the UK to apply for settled status by the end of June or become illegal immigrants. 5.6 million have now submitted applications and it's thought that another 100,000 have not filed an application. This is a bit of a shocker for the UK government which had estimated the number of eligible EU immigrants in the UK at no more than 3.5 million. Of those who have applied, 1 million are from Poland, which was expected. However, 950,000 Rumanians have applied for settled status despite the recorded Rumanian population in the UK being 400,000.

The situation is not significantly different from the settlement scheme in Spain where it was found that a higher number of Brits were living in Spain than were recorded by the Spanish authorities. However, it does seem that the UK is at least going to take a softer line with the unrecorded immigrants by giving them an opportunity to make a late application. Individuals who have been in the UK for more than five years will be granted settled status and those for less than five years will be granted pre-settled status with the right to apply for permanent settled status after a further five years.

What these results show is that the government has no real idea of who is presently residing in the UK.
 
tangerinenotorange said:
The EU Settlement Scheme (EUSS) requires EU immigrants in the UK to apply for settled status by the end of June or become illegal immigrants. 5.6 million have now submitted applications and it's thought that another 100,000 have not filed an application. This is a bit of a shocker for the UK government which had estimated the number of eligible EU immigrants in the UK at no more than 3.5 million. Of those who have applied, 1 million are from Poland, which was expected. However, 950,000 Rumanians have applied for settled status despite the recorded Rumanian population in the UK being 400,000.

The situation is not significantly different from the settlement scheme in Spain where it was found that a higher number of Brits were living in Spain than were recorded by the Spanish authorities. However, it does seem that the UK is at least going to take a softer line with the unrecorded immigrants by giving them an opportunity to make a late application. Individuals who have been in the UK for more than five years will be granted settled status and those for less than five years will be granted pre-settled status with the right to apply for permanent settled status after a further five years.

What these results show is that the government has no real idea of who is presently residing in the UK.
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Sovereignty. Control of our borders.

What a pile of shite that was.
 
Hilarious- they haven’t got a clue who are here and we’re an island so about as easy as it gets to control.

Then you throw in the number of people from other countries that aren’t on the radar it’s no wonder it’s tough to vaccinate the population as it sounds like there’s probably 10% of the population here not even “on the grid”

What a mess.
 
Wizaard said:
Sovereignty. Control of our borders.

What a pile of shite that was.
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HaHa Talk about reverse logic. The unrestricted flow of EU nationals was one of the main reasons people voted for Brexit and demanded control of our borders. That's what the EU Settlement Scheme is all about.
 
Tangojoe said:
HaHa Talk about reverse logic. The unrestricted flow of EU nationals was one of the main reasons people voted for Brexit and demanded control of our borders. That's what the EU Settlement Scheme is all about.
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5 years on there's still close to 6 million here.
 
tangerinenotorange said:
The EU Settlement Scheme (EUSS) requires EU immigrants in the UK to apply for settled status by the end of June or become illegal immigrants. 5.6 million have now submitted applications and it's thought that another 100,000 have not filed an application. This is a bit of a shocker for the UK government which had estimated the number of eligible EU immigrants in the UK at no more than 3.5 million. Of those who have applied, 1 million are from Poland, which was expected. However, 950,000 Rumanians have applied for settled status despite the recorded Rumanian population in the UK being 400,000.

The situation is not significantly different from the settlement scheme in Spain where it was found that a higher number of Brits were living in Spain than were recorded by the Spanish authorities. However, it does seem that the UK is at least going to take a softer line with the unrecorded immigrants by giving them an opportunity to make a late application. Individuals who have been in the UK for more than five years will be granted settled status and those for less than five years will be granted pre-settled status with the right to apply for permanent settled status after a further five years.

What these results show is that the government has no real idea of who is presently residing in the UK.
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Every country involved has to approach the situation in this manner because this is defined in the withdrawal agreement.

You may remember the EU insisted on the withdrawal agreement being finalised before they would discuss a trade deal. These are the terms that were agreed in that agreement.

The EU insisted on their people in the UK having a secure future before trade would be discussed, because they knew the UK priority was the trade deal and the British government was perfectly inclined to ignore the wishes of their own emigrants. As a result the withdrawal agreement contents are not commonly known in the UK, as they would not have been politically advantageous for the British government.

The UK is not taking a "softer line" it is carrying out the withdrawal agreement as are the EU countries. The settled and presettled terms are lifted directly from the agreement.

As I have lived in Germany greater than 5 years i will also have settled status, a great relief for me personally.
 
Foolweary said:
Every country involved has to approach the situation in this manner because this is defined in the withdrawal agreement.
You may remember the EU insisted on the withdrawal agreement being finalised before they would discuss a trade deal. These are the terms that were agreed in that agreement. The EU insisted on their people in the UK having a secure future before trade would be discussed, because they knew the UK priority was the trade deal and the British government was perfectly inclined to ignore the wishes of their own emigrants. As a result the withdrawal agreement contents are not commonly known in the UK, as they would not have been politically advantageous for the British government.

The UK is not taking a "softer line" it is carrying out the withdrawal agreement as are the EU countries. The settled and presettled terms are lifted directly from the agreement. As I have lived in Germany greater than 5 years i will also have settled status, a great relief for me personally.
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The UK is definitely taking a softer line than EU countries. We have had UK ex-pats in our hotel who have been forced out of Spain. The UK could reciprocate but is giving what next week will be illegal immigrants the opportunity to stay here and apply for permanent settlement.
 
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If there are 6 million people applying for settled status it means they are all working and contributing to the economy.

If you force 1 or 2 million out how do you then recruit people for their jobs? Nurses and Doctors have to be brought in from the 4 corners as there are nowhere near enough

Boris 🤡
 
Seasider3610 said:
If there are 6 million people applying for settled status it means they are all working and contributing to the economy.
If you force 1 or 2 million out how do you then recruit people for their jobs? Nurses and Doctors have to be brought in from the 4 corners as there are nowhere near enough

Boris 🤡
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There won't be any nurses and doctors forced out as we need all we can get. Or by the sound of it anyone else that's been here a while. So I don't know why you're blaming Boris.

The problem is that there is a minimum wage requirement for new arrivals that is higher than it should be. So we could end up with plenty of nurses but nobody to clean the hospitals.
 
tommytwojags said:
There won't be any nurses and doctors forced out as we need all we can get. Or by the sound of it anyone else that's been here a while. So I don't know why you're blaming Boris.

The problem is that there is a minimum wage requirement for new arrivals that is higher than it should be. So we could end up with plenty of nurses but nobody to clean the hospitals.
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Why? Can we not find some of the indiginous population to do that job?
Saying that, the fruit picking worked a treat last summer.
"Strong Britain: One Nation"
 
tommytwojags said:
The UK is definitely taking a softer line than EU countries. We have had UK ex-pats in our hotel who have been forced out of Spain. The UK could reciprocate but is giving what next week will be illegal immigrants the opportunity to stay here and apply for permanent settlement.
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I'm not quite sure how they can have been forced to be honest, if you were resident in the EU at midnight CET on December 31st 2020, you were automatically pre-settled, but you had to prove you could sustain yourself in that country, including health cover. If you had been resident legally for greater than 5 years you were settled and the caveats did not apply.
So admittedly not knowing the people you're referring to, it would seem either they couldn't sustain themselves in Spain, or did not wish to apply to formalise their status for whatever reason.
 
tommytwojags said:
There won't be any nurses and doctors forced out as we need all we can get. Or by the sound of it anyone else that's been here a while. So I don't know why you're blaming Boris.

The problem is that there is a minimum wage requirement for new arrivals that is higher than it should be. So we could end up with plenty of nurses but nobody to clean the hospitals.
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I didn’t say there would be any doctors and nurses forced out. The country still needs more brought in.

Boris is in charge isn’t he?
 
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