So accepting the democratic decision also means you have to accept any old bollux and the blatant lies people post about the EU? And ignore the fact that U.K. businesses are now mired in red tape? And that jobs will be lost as a result?
I accept your surrender
Grow up.
and see my earlier post, this is a contract between 2 parties the Supplier (AZ) and the Customer (some third party acting on behalf of the EU).Unfortunately a lot of the Bollux and blatant lies comes from those who cannot accept what has happened and are incapable of moving forward
It's not being manufactured in the UK yet. Maybe by the end of the year. Also, the EU have multiple vaccines ordered so your knowledge is wrong on that too.
Ok I've had my shower and am now having my breakfast, had my cup of tea first thing and will shortly be having a cup of coffee. I can also assure you that there is nothing wrong with my brain. All that aside, I would add to this debate, or is it debacle, the fact the UK is now about to share it's findings from Porton Down, with the wider world, on the COVID virus, it's mutations and possibilities. Oh yes this will include the EU. I look at things with an open mind, agree that our government have made a lot of mistakes, but haven't other governments done so? It would do some on here good to remove their blinkers and see the bigger picture.
Not like the EU holding us to ransom over Brexit is it?
Paranoid or what? They aren’t holding us to ransom at all.
Do I think us being in the EU would have speeded up the vaccine approval process? No
From the BBC report in the last few minutes, it looks like the AZ_Oxford vaccine will continue to be rolled out in the UK and although the EU hasn't even approved it yet it is threatening AZ with legal action for not supplying the full amount ordered. And, bizarrely, threatening to block the Pfizer supplies to the UK.
You need to look at the total numbers of vaccinated people in the UK against the total number of people vaccinated in EU countries,10/20 times more done here.
Any restrictions that are imposed (and at the moment none have been; the EU are just calling for transparency) will apply to all third party countries, not just the U.K. So how would Brexit be relevant to, say, restrictions imposed on the US?
And people on here accuse youngsters of being snowflakes and continually playing the victim card.
Possibly not (although it was always perfectly do proceed independently even as a member of the EU).
I thought the relevance was quite clear the EU are clearly making a statement of giving priority to there own citizens over exporting the vaccine to us, nothing wrong with that I have to add you look after your own people first but it’s because we’ve already vaccinated so many they are now making us pay the price in slowing the conveyor belt down.
The 1m comes from existing stocks. Another factor is people refusing to have the vaccine. So far there is an excellent take-up, but wait until the younger generations start to be offered it.
I'm glad that somebody has acknowledged this ; their first duty is to look after the safety of the people they serve.
Agree... The EU is obviously trying to look after its own people..... But of all the countries the UK is the last country that it needs to be making them look cumbersome and snail slow in vaccinating.
And it seems, currently, the bame community for some reason.
Not bothered about post brexit stuff in this. I'm putting out a moral question as to whether a leaver should accept this vaccine which could be in short supply as a result of brexit ahead of a leave voter, who had they got their way (I accept they didn't) would have equal access with the EU as a whole.
The bulk of our Oxford /Astra Zeneca vaccine is being produced in the UK right now.. . Fact... This is why we don't have to rely on importing it... Its already here.
And I’m putting the moral question as to whether remain voters should allow leave voters to have first dibs, bearing in mind that their choice would have resulted in us being massively behind where we are right now.
Oh, go on, let him have his cake and eat it.
Massively behind? I think you are in if, maybe's and but, land
No I’m not ..., the issues in the EU are there for all to see, as is the massive success in the U.K.Massively behind? I think you are in if, maybe's and but, land
No first dibs. Supplies run normal, no problem. Only IF supplies are short from Europe does the question arise.
And IF supplies run short from the EU then that will be as a result of short sighted EU policy decisions and delays. The U.K. would have therefore suffered far worse consequences as a result of throwing our hat into their ring.Massively behind? I think you are in if, maybe's and but, land
No first dibs. Supplies run normal, no problem. Only IF supplies are short from Europe does the question arise.
Lol.
No, look a bit deeper and you will see the problem has been with the Eu. Now they are just being spiteful.
Hahahaha if you voted out then that would make you a little Scotlander but that wouldn’t work as well??Errr I'm Scottish... Never never a little Englander.. Never ever...
No it dosn't roll off the tongue as well
Because had this been the other way round the attack dogs would be out in force, you included. Don’t be so sensitive mex.
It usually is the other way round Scara, it really is.
There has been misdirection from some covidiots that the jab isnt halal, to the extent that they've got together famous British Asians to made a reassuring video.
Open season for old criminals then. Theyll not be found on the DNA databaseThere are rumours circulating that it affects your DNA as well. Hopefully just the 50% or so that we share with bananas. **
** you'll find it in the dictionary, suspiciously close to "Brexiteers".
Careful, that could be misinterpretedThere are rumours circulating that it affects your DNA as well. Hopefully just the 50% or so that we share with bananas. **
** you'll find it in the dictionary, suspiciously close to "Brexiteers".
Careful, that could be misinterpreted
Hit a nerve and hooked one.
