Everton v Liverpool

Probably the first time in years Everton look to have a reasonable chance of winning. Mind you, I still wouldn't back them.
 
Looking forward to it. I usually hope that the best team wins and there's no ridiculous VAR stuff but I wouldn't mind an Everton victory as ultimately Liverpool will I think come out the stronger as the season goes on. The more open the PL is the better.
 
My Everton season Ticket holding Postman was virtually running his round this morning and said the whole office had been in by 4:15 so they could finish and get to watch the match - His prediction 4-1 to Everton
 
Decent game on the radio. Seems like Liverpool set off like a train, but Everton got a bit more going on as half progressed.
 
Pickford a very lucky boy. Irrespective of whether VVD was a toe-nail offside, he should have got a red card.
Was it dangerous play? If it wasn't then no reason to card him surely? I don't know cos I can't see it, so I'm asking a genuine question!
 
Yep, I thought so. And the surprise is that Peter Walton has just disagreed with the VAR ref and said it should have been a red card. As pointed out a tackle like that anywhere else on the pitch and not by a goalkeeper in the area and it was a pretty obvious red.
 
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Definite red card. Guessing ball was dead on offside decision so VAR didn't pay much attention to the ensuing challenge.
Gives Everton a chance if Richarlison gets his finger out
 
Yep, I thought so. And the surprise id that Peter Walton has just disagreed with the VAR ref and said it should have been a red card. As pointed out a tackle like that anywhere else on the pitch and not by a goalkeeper in the area and it was a pretty obvious red.

Cheers boss - talksport comms just said it was horrendous as well - they didn't make much of it at the time.
 
Could go either way - VVD gone off, Adrian in goal, makes Liverpool vulnerable, potentially, if Everton can keep them at bay.
 
Agree with 20s & Fargo.
Definite Red card. So if a player breaks some ones leg on purpose but the player is Offside, it's not a foul?? 🙄
 
The worst one was the Sheff Utd goal where they didn’t even bother to give the goal despite video showing it as a totally none discussion goal.
What a mess
 
What a joke VAR is.
It just bores me that goals are struck off over millimetres now.
Please can we go back to the time when the Referee made all the decisions.
The rule should be that if there is space between the attacker & defender, it's offside.
Or at least half a body, not a bloody toe cap.
 
Please can we go back to the time when the Referee made all the decisions.
The rule should be that if there is space between the attacker & defender, it's offside.
Or at least half a body, not a bloody toe cap.
Or a flapping shirt in the wind
 
Yes I agree it is ruining the game, and I don't like it what I was getting at was the amount of times Liverpool had decisions go for them in the past.The PL need to have a rethink.
I'll try again.
 
I like VAR but it's not being used right. On many levels. Changes need to be made. The problem is that the game is now all about the referees.
 
I like VAR but it's not being used right. On many levels. Changes need to be made. The problem is that the game is now all about the referees.
Why don't they do the same as Rugby where the referee on the pitch has ultimate responsibility and the video referee discusses live on air their rationale of thinking? It's worked brilliantly in Rugby and over the hundreds of games I've seen, which has far more complicated rulings, does it go wrong. So why is football using VAR so badly?
 
Why don't they do the same as Rugby where the referee on the pitch has ultimate responsibility and the video referee discusses live on air their rationale of thinking? It's worked brilliantly in Rugby and over the hundreds of games I've seen, which has far more complicated rulings, does it go wrong. So why is football using VAR so badly?
Valid point, but as a game I think Rugby is more stop/start than football.
 
The problem is that the game is now all about the referees.
That’s been the problem since the Premier League started, and this version of VAR is completely undermining the game. People will start turning away from football if it carries on disrupting the end result in games.

I would use it for goal line decisions only.
 
That’s been the problem since the Premier League started, and this version of VAR is completely undermining the game. People will start turning away from football if it carries on disrupting the end result in games.

I would use it for goal line decisions only.
Is there any going back? I'm not so sure. Only by modification either of the rules or the refs.
 
I like VAR but it's not being used right. On many levels. Changes need to be made. The problem is that the game is now all about the referees.
The interpretation of the offside rules is what's wrong. If they went back to daylight between the defender and the attacker then there would be no issue. They can still draw the lines but on the other side of the last defender and attacker.
 
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