ElBurroSinNombre
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OK I retract that 'blatant lie'
I should have said 'Why is it that almost every post that you make contains a dig at somebody else who uses this board?'
Government gambling with people’s lives
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I should have said 'Why is it that almost every post that you make contains a dig at somebody else who uses this board?'
Bennys_was_a_mob
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Maybe it's not just anti Tory views, maybe it's just anger as to how this government have handled this pandemic from the word go and maybe it doesn't matter who's in charge today, tomorrow or for the next 10 years. As a nation we have been badly let down by those in charge, the handling of this pandemic has been woeful on nearly every level, the death count is shocking, the infection rate has been shocking. We are supposedly a very wealthy country with a free health service that is said to be the "envy of the world" Unfortunately this is not the case anymore after successive governments be it red or blue we find the NHS on its knees. Now this is just anger aimed towards those in charge who have lead us into this situation, no particular political colour matters.
20togo
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Again remove your blinkers, it's not a one way street. Your political bias means you only see what you want to see. If I think some-one is blinded by their hatred of this govt and what appears to be every single action they take, be that to do with Brexit or Covid then simply by challenging them, it's inevitable that in your words that I'm "having a dig"
Towerpower99
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Bennys... One of the great new features of the New AVFTT is that you can view all previous posts of everyone... So 1 trick ponies are easy to spot.... As I have stated I have a balanced view on all subjects and there is always two sides to any story.... But for some that is a hard concept to grasp.
20togo
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Spot on. There are so many one trick ponies on here. Ooops, sorry that stating a fact is having a dig.
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SEASIDE2020
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To be fair, the most influential British politician of the 21st century, Sir Nigel Farage, is of the opinion that Blair should be put in charge of the vaccine programme.
1950`spoolfan
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I am a great believer in balanced views...... however just a small problem here.........no-one, however perfect they may think themselves to be has a balanced view on all subjects so anyone who judges him or herself to be pretty much perfectly balanced is in self assessment de facto clearly not .
I do hope that is not supposed to be a recommendation!
todayistheday
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Not read it all or any replies,is it a case of looking after the old codgers with full dose and the least at risk a lesser dose. Makes sense at the moment if supplies are short.
Eternaloptimist
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Wiz, why are you twisting things here?
Where, in any of my posts, have I made mention of there being no risk to extended no the gap between vaccine.
Towerpower99
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On balance in reply to your balanced post I concur that balance can be a difficult thing to find on every occasion... But on balance I think I try hard... Not perfect... But on balance OK.
Wizaard
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Because you're piling into those who express concerns, saying its politically motivated. On thos occasion, I dont think it is.
Eternaloptimist
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Wiz
I referred to 2 people on this forum whose views are nothing but political and I don’t think I have ever seen a football related post from either of them.
And I stand by that.
I referred to 2 people on this forum whose views are nothing but political and I don’t think I have ever seen a football related post from either of them.
And I stand by that.
Wizaard
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Ok. It didnt read that specifically.
1950`spoolfan
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I am due to receive the Pfizer vaccine on Friday but the untested and unproven policy of delaying the second dose for 12 weeks seems to me to be a reckless gamble which few elsewhere nor our own BMA support.I just hope this isn`t yet another in the sequence of blunders so far evidenced that will again cost yet more avoidable unnecessary loss of life.
Shouldn`t we first and foremost be fully protecting those who otherwise may lose their lives or become seriously ill rather than spread the vaccine more thinly amongst many more who are likely to face very little threat of loss of life or serious illness.My daughter who is 52 and my granddaughter who is 21 have both had this virus recently with only the mildest of symptoms.
Shouldn`t we first and foremost be fully protecting those who otherwise may lose their lives or become seriously ill rather than spread the vaccine more thinly amongst many more who are likely to face very little threat of loss of life or serious illness.My daughter who is 52 and my granddaughter who is 21 have both had this virus recently with only the mildest of symptoms.
todayistheday
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I see some oap is moaning about presciption delivery charge in well off Poulton,saying we cannot go out because we are self isolating but are quite happy to travel for vaccine.
Recidivist3
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You should have gone to specsavers
1950`spoolfan
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Surely the reason people don`t go out is to follow the rules which benefit us all in reducing the spread of the virus.Travelling to receive the vaccine is further restricting the spread of the virus and protecting the recipients thus not only within the rules but a positive step to protect the population at large.
todayistheday
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He is moaning at the delivery charge.
SEASIDE2020
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No, I wasn't recommending anything, I was just stating Sir Nigel's recommendation.
I am no great fan of Blair, when he used to speak about Brexit, Lineker used to say, "You can say what you like about Blair, weapons of mass destruction etc, but nobody can deny that he's a bloody good orator".
Lineker was quickly reminded that, "Peter Sutcliffe was a bloody good lorry driver".
Not getting into vaccine politics but hope it goes well for you and that your loved ones make a full and speedy recovery.
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SEASIDE2020
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50's
Reading back, I'm now thinking you were just commenting on me putting up Sir Nigel for a knighthood ?
I hope I got there in the end and please ignore all my drivel.
Apologies.
TSSeasider
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Meanwhile, the U.K.’s approach to delay the second jab until 12 weeks to enable more people to get the first was “absolutely the right way to go, at least for our vaccine,” Soriot said. “You get a better efficiency if you get the second dose later than earlier." Denmark and the Netherlands are now also delaying second doses by six weeks."
I hope this answers that question; it appears to be the right way to go and is now being copied by our European neighbours
Towards the end of this article
www.politico.eu
I hope this answers that question; it appears to be the right way to go and is now being copied by our European neighbours
Towards the end of this article
AstraZeneca CEO: EU vaccine contract is ‘not a commitment’
‘Our commitment’ says Pascal Soriot, is to make ‘our best effort.’
www.politico.eu
L’étranger
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I think you’re missing the point. We all know that the second AZ vaccine has been proved, in trials, to be effective when given more than three weeks after the first.Meanwhile, the U.K.’s approach to delay the second jab until 12 weeks to enable more people to get the first was “absolutely the right way to go, at least for our vaccine,” Soriot said. “You get a better efficiency if you get the second dose later than earlier." Denmark and the Netherlands are now also delaying second doses by six weeks."
I hope this answers that question; it appears to be the right way to go and is now being copied by our European neighbours
Towards the end of this article
AstraZeneca CEO: EU vaccine contract is ‘not a commitment’
‘Our commitment’ says Pascal Soriot, is to make ‘our best effort.’
However there is no such evidence provided by Pfizer for their second vaccine.
SomersetSeasider
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I’m not sure they’re copying us in terms of extending the period between jabs. I think they’ve been forced to do it because of the delays in receiving the requisite levels of vaccine. France are now having to consider a six week gap for the same reason, something they didn’t want to do.Meanwhile, the U.K.’s approach to delay the second jab until 12 weeks to enable more people to get the first was “absolutely the right way to go, at least for our vaccine,” Soriot said. “You get a better efficiency if you get the second dose later than earlier." Denmark and the Netherlands are now also delaying second doses by six weeks."
I hope this answers that question; it appears to be the right way to go and is now being copied by our European neighbours
Towards the end of this article
AstraZeneca CEO: EU vaccine contract is ‘not a commitment’
‘Our commitment’ says Pascal Soriot, is to make ‘our best effort.’
1966_and_all_that
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A sensible post. However, it doesn't absolve the Government from learning from its own mistakes and improving its approach as it goes along.