Harry Kane

Anyone who advocates dropping Kane really needs to think about moving to North Korea and dwelling on their behaviour.
He doesn't seem fit and certainly not showing any positivity going forward, struggling to control the ball and very ineffective, why play him before DCL?
 
Something is wrong. In two games, nothing has has stuck when the ball has been played up to him. Usually, everything does. He hasn’t won a challenge, either on the ground or in the air. Is he carrying a knock, or keeping himself intact for a big money move to Citeh ? Either way, he has to go……now ! England have three midfield talents; Grealish, Mount and Foden. They should all be on together, not fed in piecemeal, while Kane and Sterling display their inadequacy . The Czech’s only need a draw to top the Group. Unless the personnel are shaken up, England face an uncertain future in this tournament.
Jerry Yates
 
I think we're stuck with Kane & I'm not DKL's biggest fan. I really hope we can inject some FORWARD aggression into Tuesdays game & then judge Harry, with service more like he gets at club level. Looking at who we had to choose from I don't think all the right players are there. Too late now of course.
 
I said it from the outset and I'll repeat it again, unless Southgate grows a pair and gets the system right we will fail in this tournament, having a system that has a back four and two defensive holding midfielders is a complete waste of time and will not get the best of the one area we are strong in, attacking midfielders. There is also a clear instruction from the manager to retain possession and not get the ball forward quick enough and this is shown by both full backs who constantly go back to their keeper and centre backs instead of forging down the flanks.

He needs to play three centre backs, that will release both full backs to get forward and use one holding midfielder which in turn will allow him to play three attacking midfielders who would be Foden, Mount and Grealish with Kane up top with the clear instruction to stay up top and not keep coming back in to midfield which is part of the reason why he looks knackered.

You don't become a bad player overnight, and Kane is a country mile ahead of our other strikers in terms of ability, but first and foremost he needs the service and employing two attacking wing backs and three attacking creative midfielders will give him that service.

Anyone who watched the Portugal v Germany game on Saturday will have seen how much both sides get forward and attack the opposition and the winner of this tournament will be a side like them or the likes of Belgium or France.

There is nothing wrong with the ability in this England squad, there is everything wrong with a manager who prepares for the tournament by playing pre tournament friendlies using players not even selected for the tournament, taking players who are clearly injured, employing negative defensive tactics to avoid defeat rather than win a game and giving players clear instructions not to take any risks and just try to retain possession at all costs.

When we exit this tournament the finger of blame will point accusingly at Southgate and he will only have himself to blame.
 
I said it from the outset and I'll repeat it again, unless Southgate grows a pair and gets the system right we will fail in this tournament, having a system that has a back four and two defensive holding midfielders is a complete waste of time and will not get the best of the one area we are strong in, attacking midfielders. There is also a clear instruction from the manager to retain possession and not get the ball forward quick enough and this is shown by both full backs who constantly go back to their keeper and centre backs instead of forging down the flanks.

He needs to play three centre backs, that will release both full backs to get forward and use one holding midfielder which in turn will allow him to play three attacking midfielders who would be Foden, Mount and Grealish with Kane up top with the clear instruction to stay up top and not keep coming back in to midfield which is part of the reason why he looks knackered.

You don't become a bad player overnight, and Kane is a country mile ahead of our other strikers in terms of ability, but first and foremost he needs the service and employing two attacking wing backs and three attacking creative midfielders will give him that service.

Anyone who watched the Portugal v Germany game on Saturday will have seen how much both sides get forward and attack the opposition and the winner of this tournament will be a side like them or the likes of Belgium or France.

There is nothing wrong with the ability in this England squad, there is everything wrong with a manager who prepares for the tournament by playing pre tournament friendlies using players not even selected for the tournament, taking players who are clearly injured, employing negative defensive tactics to avoid defeat rather than win a game and giving players clear instructions not to take any risks and just try to retain possession at all costs.

When we exit this tournament the finger of blame will point accusingly at Southgate and he will only have himself to blame.
Spot on RB. These Southgate tactics unfortunately are not new and have stifled England in many a major tournament and a world class striker like Kane doesn’t become a cart horse overnight. This current England squad has a wealth of talent, skill and flair, FFS Southgate use it otherwise and yet again the FA will have to go looking for another 'yes man.'
 
But he, and the team, are running out of time. Spluttering.
Will it explode or fizzle out like a damp squib?
Hardly running out of time

4 points from 2 games, almost impossible not to qualify

We haven't conceded a single goal and haven't looked like letting one in

Things are going just fine
 
Hardly running out of time

4 points from 2 games, almost impossible not to qualify

We haven't conceded a single goal and haven't looked like letting one in

Things are going just fine
We've got the same amount of points as Wales have with a game to play, and according to the media they're doing absolutely brilliantly by defending in depth and trying to nick a goal. If we tried that we'd be crucified.

Meanwhile Scotland are on a high after one point from two games.

Perspective.
 
Hardly running out of time

4 points from 2 games, almost impossible not to qualify

We haven't conceded a single goal and haven't looked like letting one in

Things are going just fine
"Things are going just fine"

Jesus wept Phil, a blind man could see things are far from fine, sure we have four points, but the performances have been dreadful and unless that buffoon Southgate changes the system so we can get the best from our very talented midfield as soon as anyone half decent turns up to play us we'll be sent packing from the competition prompting a stewards enquiry as to WTF is going on.
 
Actually you might be onto something there SATS. He'd be a focal point, and not easily knocked off the ball unless Big Daddy (RIP) was in the opposition back four
 
He doesn't seem fit and certainly not showing any positivity going forward, struggling to control the ball and very ineffective, why play him before DCL?
Clearly you are recalling the DCL that had a great first half of the season but turning a blind eye since the turn of the year when he has only scored five goals. Go and compare that with Kane and whilst you are doing that compare the number of assists too. And that's your answer as why you play him before DCL. Were you calling for the ineffective Jerry Yates to be dropped for the first dozen games or so, or is it diffferent rules you want to play by for England and BFC?
if he's injured or carrying a knock then you rest him but hyou don't drop our only world class player and our outstanding goalscorer based on the fact he's done norhing for two games. Two games where he's had nothing to work with.
 
Clearly you are recalling the DCL that had a great first half of the season but turning a blind eye since the turn of the year when he has only scored five goals. Go and compare that with Kane and whilst you are doing that compare the number of assists too. And that's your answer as why you play him before DCL. Were you calling for the ineffective Jerry Yates to be dropped for the first dozen games or so, or is it diffferent rules you want to play by for England and BFC?
if he's injured or carrying a knock then you rest him but hyou don't drop our only world class player and our outstanding goalscorer based on the fact he's done norhing for two games. Two games where he's had nothing to work with.
There's a not so subtle difference. Faith was shown in Jerry Yates partly because we didn't have many other options, but also because there was an entire season for him to settle in. As crass as it might seem, England's need are more immediate. We need a striker who might score or make goals within the next couple of games. Kane hasn't looked like doing so thus far, and has been largely inept, which is why folk are justifiably crying out for a replacement-and we do have options. I don't think the two situations are comparable, and understand the pressing need for change. Btw. I really hope he comes good, and have no axe to grind against Kane, who's sadly looked far from Abel.
 
Not once did I doubt Jerry, however Harry Kane isn't match fit
 
There's a not so subtle difference. Faith was shown in Jerry Yates partly because we didn't have many other options, but also because there was an entire season for him to settle in. As crass as it might seem, England's need are more immediate. We need a striker who might score or make goals within the next couple of games. Kane hasn't looked like doing so thus far, and has been largely inept, which is why folk are justifiably crying out for a replacement-and we do have options. I don't think the two situations are comparable, and understand the pressing need for change. Btw. I really hope he comes good, and have no axe to grind against Kane, who's sadly looked far from Abel.
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I did doubt Mr Critchley for that I will always be very very sorry. What a guy 🧡🧡
 
Not once did I doubt Jerry, however Harry Kane isn't match fit
I'd suggest Southgate is more likely to know whether or not Kane is match fit than you are. So you never doubted Yates but doubt a player whose record far surpasses that of Yates and at a much higher level too.
 
I'd suggest Southgate is more likely to know whether or not Kane is match fit than you are. So you never doubted Yates but doubt a player whose record far surpasses that of Yates and at a much higher level too.
Yates is superior in many aspects of his game
 
I'd suggest Southgate is more likely to know whether or not Kane is match fit than you are. So you never doubted Yates but doubt a player whose record far surpasses that of Yates and at a much higher level too.
20togo, how many goals did Harry Kane get in his first 2 seasons in first team football?
 
I'd suggest Southgate is more likely to know whether or not Kane is match fit than you are. So you never doubted Yates but doubt a player whose record far surpasses that of Yates and at a much higher level too.
Call yourself a Blackpool fan, get behind your striker and admit Kane isn't fit
 
Kane plays, it's not a subject to discuss really. Had we beaten Scotland he, and others, could be rested, but we didn't.

Needs the attacking players to get the ball much earlier so they aren't tightly marked and have some space and then it's a different team.

Not convinced Southgate is the manager to get the best from the available players.
 
We've got the same amount of points as Wales have with a game to play, and according to the media they're doing absolutely brilliantly by defending in depth and trying to nick a goal. If we tried that we'd be crucified.

Meanwhile Scotland are on a high after one point from two games.

Perspective.
Minnows
 
Got ya, Yates in your view is generally a better player than Kane.
ah now I get it, your user name of coach is all to do with the transport vehicle and has nothing to do with knowing anythng about the skills of football. That's fine then. And of course you're responsible for preparing food on these coaches too.
 
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ah now I get it, your user name of coach is all to do with the transport vehicle and has nothing to do with knowing anythng about the skills of football. That's fine then.
These things can be confusing. For many years I thought you were our only poster based in a West African country.
 
After the WC I thought Southgate had us moving in the right direction, but after hearing him interviewed just on TV it has made me wonder. I don't want us to fail but we'll just have to hope his management skills are better than his interview, as he seemed to have no idea & almost said he'd be happy to draw. FFS I'm now expecting a draw tomorrow night. 🥱 Yes I know that will see us qualify, which we really should. Guess I'm still down after that embarrassing display on Friday. I've tried to give up worrying, I'll just put it on & hope we are entertained & score a few goals.
 
Clearly you are recalling the DCL that had a great first half of the season but turning a blind eye since the turn of the year when he has only scored five goals. Go and compare that with Kane and whilst you are doing that compare the number of assists too. And that's your answer as why you play him before DCL. Were you calling for the ineffective Jerry Yates to be dropped for the first dozen games or so, or is it diffferent rules you want to play by for England and BFC?
if he's injured or carrying a knock then you rest him but hyou don't drop our only world class player and our outstanding goalscorer based on the fact he's done norhing for two games. Two games where he's had nothing to work with.
DCL last six games of the season, 2 goals
HK last six games of the season, only actually played 5 because he had an injury and scored, err, 2 goals.

Blind eye turned to current form when it suits.
 
DCL last six games of the season, 2 goals
HK last six games of the season, only actually played 5 because he had an injury and scored, err, 2 goals.

Blind eye turned to current form when it suits.
So you use the stat of six games because it suits so no blind eye from me. Simple question. Who is the better player?
And no blind eye to the fact that you are only an England fan when it suits, And no blind eye turned to the fact that you've no interest in the PL but here you are offering an opinion on all these players you never see play because you don't subscribe to watch the PL..
 
So you use the stat of six games because it suits so no blind eye from me. Simple question. Who is the better player?
And no blind eye to the fact that you are only an England fan when it suits, And no blind eye turned to the fact that you've no interest in the PL but here you are offering an opinion on all these players you never see play because you don't subscribe to watch the PL..
Match of the Day has been running since 1964.
 
So you use the stat of six games because it suits so no blind eye from me. Simple question. Who is the better player?
And no blind eye to the fact that you are only an England fan when it suits, And no blind eye turned to the fact that you've no interest in the PL but here you are offering an opinion on all these players you never see play because you don't subscribe to watch the PL..
It suits because Kane didn't play for a month before that. You keep going on about DCLs current form not being all that but it's the same as Kane. That's why it's the time frame. Because you keep banging on about the first half of the season.

Kane is a better player career wise, but Shearer was better than him and no one is saying he should play.

I simply refer you to the fact that on current form ( and form guides are usually 6 games) then there's nothing between them, other than DCL looks fresher.
 
It suits because Kane didn't play for a month before that. You keep going on about DCLs current form not being all that but it's the same as Kane. That's why it's the time frame. Because you keep banging on about the first half of the season.

Kane is a better player career wise, but Shearer was better than him and no one is saying he should play.

I simply refer you to the fact that on current form ( and form guides are usually 6 games) then there's nothing between them, other than DCL looks fresher.
As great as Shearer was Kane is well on target to pass all Shearers records. Find it amazing that people are so fickle and that includes you that a player as good as Kane has two bad games and they are calling for mhim to be replaced. As I keep saying, what service has he had in the two games? Answer is none. So rather than focus on why he's not played well look deeper for the reasons as to why? Look at the slow tempo, look at the negative tactics etc.
 
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