coppiceman
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Some papers are saying the Tories have a 17% lead with two days to go. Can that be right? We live in strange times alright.
Sorry 2020 - updated my post since to say thatIF - that says IF, they have certainly not lost yet - Labour lose a mid term by election in Hartlepool to the Conservatives then I'd suggest that they should be taking a closer look at their own actions rather than worrying about Nadine Dorries.
Sorry 2020 - updated my post since to say that
They only way the Tories could lose this election is if Boris was caught with his pants down, he wished thousands would die in the pandemic or he was caught taking a back hander from a donor for some frilly cushions.......OH!!!....... ......Your right, we live in strange times alright.
But even that fails here.They voted to leave the EU so what do Labour do, put a pro EU candidate up. Just to rub salt in the wound Emily Thornberry turns up to canvass after Starmer who tried to overturn the vote. Starmer also against the Treasury moving jobs to the NE. All Labour have is scare tactics over the NHS.
They voted to leave the EU so what do Labour do, put a pro EU candidate up. Just to rub salt in the wound Emily Thornberry turns up to canvass after Starmer who tried to overturn the vote. Starmer also against the Treasury moving jobs to the NE. All Labour have is scare tactics over the NHS.
At minimum wage in part time jobs, yes they'll need 2 each.Nadine Dorries MP claims the Tories have created 180,000 well paid jobs in Hartlepool, population 92,000 - no wonder the voters have gone over to them, two jobs each eh!
In 2019 @55% of votes were for Tory or Brexit Party in Hartlepool and only @35% for Labour - as Tory and Brexit Party are more or less the same thing, it does look bleak for Labour!
No minimum wage in gig jobs, even better!At minimum wage in part time jobs, yes they'll need 2 each.
Interesting point but the Tories have been in power for 10 years. What is it about the tory party that appeals to these areas? I'd hazard a guess at recent displays of nationalism such as the tory ministers displaying flags and the let's get tough on immigration mantra is high on the appeal.Some really good points have been made. The Labour party have turned their back on many of their traditional voters and they now unsurprisingly are paying the price. A wonderful example of that has been given, endorsing the Eu when many traditional labour party supporters voted leave. It is this lack of understanding, this lack of empathy and an arrogance that the labour party knows best. Until the party starts to listen it looks like the party will continue to lose support among the electorate and that is just bad for democracy.
It's far more than that, but it does include being patriotic and proud of this country's achievements.Interesting point but the Tories have been in power for 10 years. What is it about the tory party that appeals to these areas? I'd hazard a guess at recent displays of nationalism such as the tory ministers displaying flags and the let's get tough on immigration mantra is high on the appeal.
They don’t care about his curtains it’s actions that matter. The working classes are waking up at last which is thankfully why we got Brexit done.They only way the Tories could lose this election is if Boris was caught with his pants down, he wished thousands would die in the pandemic or he was caught taking a back hander from a donor for some frilly cushions.......OH!!!....... ......Your right, we live in strange times alright.
Nothing strange here. For one they voted Brexit but Labour did a U turn on their stance. Labour are finished now. People are waking up to what is happening. Fewer people rely on the MSM to get drip fed the lies of the BBC, C4 etc left wing propaganda.Some papers are saying the Tories have a 17% lead with two days to go. Can that be right? We live in strange times alright.
Nothing at all to do with the brexit vote. If it had been, the tories would have won the seat at the last Election. If the tories win, it's because Labour have deserted Hartlepool and the North of England. Hell, nobody even knows what Labour stand for. They change policies every few weeks and even they themselves don't know what they represent now.If the Tories win its a direct result of the Hartlepool brexit vote, they think its right for them and they see the tory party as the saviour to deliver and implement brexit. Fair play to the tory leadership for selling brexit to these communities, its worked wonders in getting deprived areas to vote for them.
Not true. The only reason the Tories didn’t win in 2019 was because of the presence of the Brexit Party (who took 26% of the vote).Nothing at all to do with the brexit vote. If it had been, the tories would have won the seat at the last Election. If the tories win, it's because Labour have deserted Hartlepool and the North of England. Hell, nobody even knows what Labour stand for. They change policies every few weeks and even they themselves don't know what they represent now.
Correct. It has everything to do with brexit. For one of the most deprived areas to vote for a tory MP is a staggering proposition, particularly under a govt with this much sleaze. It says a lot about social media influence, the education system and a worry how far the country will descend into cuts and further austerity.Not true. The only reason the Tories didn’t win in 2019 was because of the presence of the Brexit Party (who took 26% of the vote).
Correct. It has everything to do with brexit. For one of the most deprived areas to vote for a tory MP is a staggering proposition, particularly under a govt with this much sleaze. It says a lot about social media influence, the education system and a worry how far the country will descend into cuts and further austerity.