Has anyone had shoulder pain?

AllezBlackpool said:
I'm in agony. All they've done is say do exercises. Painkillers won't touch it
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What’s caused it ? I had shoulder and neck pain after I pulled something. Lasted about a week. Made my own sling with my Blackpool scarf for sleeping in.
It was quite painful I confess.
 
Sorry matey the answer is yes and excercies are the only answer. Ergonomics is massive so make sure your posture aligns. Something I found that helps is put your pillows to one side use a rolled up yoel to tip your head back for as long as you can comfortably bear it or untill you fall asleep. It takes some getting used to but it will help. Your head is very heavy keep the neck straight as often as you can.
 
AllezBlackpool said:
Had it for a while mate. They said it was a rotor cuff problem or summat. Told me to do exercises. I have to now lift my pint in the wrong hand
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They gave me physio exercises and amitriptyline for pain and sleep. I didn’t take the meds but did do the exercises.
Get a straw.
 
If it's rotator cuff then it often needs surgery for a tear. I did mine 9 months ago. I've been doing rehab lifting ever since to build the muscles around it, but it will probably still need surgery.

Cortisone injections work beautifully but you can only have a couple in a year before you start to weaken it. Go and see a physio immediately - you need to get it assessed otherwise you can do more harm than good.
 
My rotator cuff has an inchtear in the supporting ligament, that was identified in early 2020.

At the time, it was more dangerous to go into hospital than putting up with it.

I have thought about going back, but haven't got round to it.
 
As posted already, if it's rotator cuff the best thing is to try to stop/reduce what's causing it (see bill40 post nr 4) and gently exercise. Eg use stretchable bands but keep your elbows/shoulders tucked in, otherwise it could get worse.

I used to swim every night after work for 20 years. The physio recently told me that it's a common swimmers injury, but anything that rotates the shoulder in an unusual position could cause the injury (think my crap butterfly did for me in the end).

I don't swim anymore due to the pain it would cause, so I don't get much discomfort. Like wizz I haven't bothered with surgery.
 
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Who is "they" Allez? Go and see the phsyio Mark Taylor (ex Pool). It'll probably cost you £40 or so, but he will give you an opinion on what's wrong.
 
Dave62 said:
As posted already, if it's rotator cuff the best thing is to try to stop/reduce what's causing it (see bill40 post nr 4) and gently exercise. Eg use stretchable bands but keep your elbows/shoulders tucked in, otherwise it could get worse.

I used to swim every night after work for 20 years. The physio recently told me that it's a common swimmers injury, but anything that rotates the shoulder in an unusual position could cause the injury (think my crap butterfly did for me in the end).

I don't swim anymore due to the pain it would cause, so I don't get much discomfort. Like wizz I haven't bothered with surgery.
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It was swimming and excess computer use that did for but really try the towel trick. The tilted neck will drop your shoulders anh the metatarsal muscles back in their place. You'll feel the tension in your shoulder blades relax, focus on that not that it's uncomfortable. I'm not a doctor but o2 sent me a fully qualified ergonomic specialist to help and it worked for me. The bad news is it's probably forever but you get plenty of breaks often long ones.
To add aging is a horrible process, I used to do the pier to pier swim now I'd struggle to walk it.
 
AllezBlackpool said:
I'm in agony. All they've done is say do exercises. Painkillers won't touch it
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I fell on my shoulder on Saturday playing tennis and sat for 3 hours at Whitegate Drive waiting to see the medic and have an X-ray. It's not broken but I share your pain Allez. Can't lie on it. Can't get my top on. Can't sleep. Doc says it should be OK after 6 weeks. Good luck with yours.

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12 years ago I was doing some diy. I was lying on my side, as my left shoulder was supporting me rolling into position to reach, it crunched. The following days and weeks it got progressively worse to the extenent I could barely move my arm. The scans were inconclusive so it was operated on. The surgeon discovered that the ligament across the top of my shoulder had snapped, the progressive pain was the ligament slowly working its way into the ball and socket and subsequently getting trapped. 4 months recovery (9 weeks of that on Tramadol). Never known pain like it.
As Chunky says, get it checked out properly.
 
I have a monthly Thai massage on my shoulders and neck. (not a mucky massage, a proper one). I also use, sparingly, Tiger Balm, but be careful as you can put too much on. I'm afraid if it's caused, like mine, through a fall a lot of it is grin and bare it.
 
Peppermint oil. Just come out of hospital and shoulder problems were being caused by pumping gas into you before operating. However, peppermint seems to be good.
 
I had a rotator cuff injury a couple of years ago, attempting press ups at age 64. Idiot!

It was very painful, especially at night. I used to enjoy slipping under the quilt at the end of the day until my bed became a place of torture.

The GP was very helpful. “Hmmm. Shoulders are very complicated things”.

Seeing a physio is important. Religiously performing all the exercises they give you is vital. Resistance bands are very good. Start gently and listen to your body. Expect other muscles to cramp up when on the receiving end of unaccustomed exercise. On my final visit to the physio she took what is best described as a Black and Decker drill with a blunt end to unlock a particularly recalcitrant muscle.

It took about 9 months or so before the real problem (ie pain) disappeared although I can feel there are some things my shoulders don’t really want to do. So I don’t do them!

The good news is that as you get older the dull ache you feel in your shoulders will be matched by dull aches in your back, your knees, ankles and feet. My hips seem ok so far.
 
AllezBlackpool said:
Had it for a while mate. They said it was a rotor cuff problem or summat. Told me to do exercises. I have to now lift my pint in the wrong hand
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I’ve had frozen shoulder which was really bad. Cortisone injections are usually given for that but don’t always work. I had to have manipulation in the end. Different things need different treatments though so you need to know exactly what the problem is as you could do more harm by trying the wrong type of exercise
 
I have/had rotator cuff injuries. It depends how serious it is for the remedy. If you only lift kebabs it can't be that bad.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
I had a rotator cuff injury a couple of years ago, attempting press ups at age 64. Idiot!

It was very painful, especially at night. I used to enjoy slipping under the quilt at the end of the day until my bed became a place of torture.

The GP was very helpful. “Hmmm. Shoulders are very complicated things”.

Seeing a physio is important. Religiously performing all the exercises they give you is vital. Resistance bands are very good. Start gently and listen to your body. Expect other muscles to cramp up when on the receiving end of unaccustomed exercise. On my final visit to the physio she took what is best described as a Black and Decker drill with a blunt end to unlock a particularly recalcitrant muscle.

It took about 9 months or so before the real problem (ie pain) disappeared although I can feel there are some things my shoulders don’t really want to do. So I don’t do them!

The good news is that as you get older the dull ache you feel in your shoulders will be matched by dull aches in your back, your knees, ankles and feet. My hips seem ok so far.
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I've just been diagnosed with Osteoporosis Arthritis in both knees. The left one is the worst. I am having Physio and have exercises to do but with the work I do I am on my knees on uneven ground all the time. Your right about the other aches and pains though, you can have several going on at the same time as you get older!!
 
hertfordseasider said:
I've just been diagnosed with Osteoporosis Arthritis in both knees. The left one is the worst. I am having Physio and have exercises to do but with the work I do I am on my knees on uneven ground all the time. Your right about the other aches and pains though, you can have several going on at the same time as you get older!!
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Mrs Mex had a partial knee replacement earlier this year for that problem. She had to put up with it for a few years first though, with it having a real impact on her mobility and life, being referred for physio that had little effect and not really getting anywhere with the NHS.

We’d decided to go private for the operation but thought we’d give the NHS a last go, armed with x rays we’d had done privately. The consultant looked at them and just said “yep, you need a new knee. Physio won’t help”.

Booked in very quickly (NHS but in a private hospital) and finally sorted. Miles better now. Literally a new lease of life, no pain and able to do what she used to do.

You just need to find a way to get past the gatekeepers (who push you toward physio even when it isn’t working) and if you can do that the service is pretty good. That said, an operation will depend on the severity.
 
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Mexboroseasider said:
Mrs Mex had a partial knee replacement earlier this year for that problem. She had to put up with it for a few years first though, with it having a real impact on her mobility and life, being referred for physio that had little effect and not really getting anywhere with the NHS.

We’d decided to go private for the operation but thought we’d give the NHS a last go, armed with x rays we’d had done privately. The consultant looked at them and just said “yep, you need a new knee. Physio won’t help”.

Booked in very quickly (NHS but in a private hospital) and finally sorted. Miles better now. Literally a new lease of life, no pain and able to do what she used to do.

You just need to find a way to get past the gatekeepers (who push you toward physio even when it isn’t working) and if you can do that the service is pretty good. That said, an operation will depend on the severity.
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Thanks for that Mex, it's early stages at the moment, just waiting for X-Ray results so will carry on the physio and the exercises for now, If I need a replacement and it works in the future then happy days.
 
hertfordseasider said:
Thanks for that Mex, it's early stages at the moment, just waiting for X-Ray results so will carry on the physio and the exercises for now, If I need a replacement and it works in the future then happy days.
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I've had osteoarthritis in both knees for about 10 years. At the time they didn't recommend knee replacement as they only lasted about 10 years The consultant did comment on the muscles around my knee which was down to weight training and said to keep it up which I have. Some good days some bad but more stiffness than pain . Whatever works for you I would suggest.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Mrs Mex had a partial knee replacement earlier this year for that problem. She had to put up with it for a few years first though, with it having a real impact on her mobility and life, being referred for physio that had little effect and not really getting anywhere with the NHS.

We’d decided to go private for the operation but thought we’d give the NHS a last go, armed with x rays we’d had done privately. The consultant looked at them and just said “yep, you need a new knee. Physio won’t help”.

Booked in very quickly (NHS but in a private hospital) and finally sorted. Miles better now. Literally a new lease of life, no pain and able to do what she used to do.

You just need to find a way to get past the gatekeepers (who push you toward physio even when it isn’t working) and if you can do that the service is pretty good. That said, an operation will depend on the severity.
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I’ve had osteoarthritis in my left knee for 12 years now but keep putting the inevitable knee replacement off but having a cortisone next week when l get back off holiday.
 
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