In the latest episode of genuine insanity

EagleDay said:
Yes I know, that's why I asked. How many were there originally?
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Well if you’d ever been on the website previously then you’d know. But the truth is that you had no idea that the Foundation/Fellowship existed (or the work it undertakes) until the op. But are now getting cross that it’s been changed.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Well if you’d ever been on the website previously then you’d know. But the truth is that you had no idea that the Foundation/Fellowship existed (or the work it undertakes) until the op. But are now getting cross that it’s been changed.
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Wrong again, I have heard of the Churchill Foundation but didn't realise it had a name change and who said I'm getting cross? People give some weird responses on this board, ask a civil question and all kinds of accusations are made. 🤣😘
 
EagleDay said:
Wrong again, I have heard of the Churchill Foundation but didn't realise it had a name change and who said I'm getting cross? People give some weird responses on this board, ask a civil question and all kinds of accusations are made. 🤣😘
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Ok then. Not cross. I must just have misunderstood your post about the Nazis finally taking control.
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Ok then. Not cross. I must just have misunderstood your post about the Nazis finally taking control.
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That was a general statement and said in sarcasm more so than in anger, but then people have difficulty in recognising sarcasm without an emoji these days. It's getting difficult to be light-hearted about anything just lately without somebody taking it the wrong way.
 
We’re at the stage where ‘everyone has a voice’ which sounds noble and virtuous but in practice we’re expected to move the world once a week to support whims and individual views of a few spoilt students pretending to be triggered.

I honestly think we will be debating bullshit like this when the Russians/China invade.
The way things are going, that would be the shortest war ever recorded, as an actual army from the real world with history and national pride, fight a bunch of gender neutral, non-agressive (macro and micro) ‘country defenders’ dressed in rainbow outfits who have no idea who they are or any history we once had and no tactics to deploy because they were scrapped due to implicit racist connotations.

These countries don’t and never will give a shit about safe spaces or being triggered, they are laughing at us and most likely pushing it further themselves through social media.

Making everyone weaker by protecting them from history is not a solution.
 
Mike_BFC said:
We’re at the stage where ‘everyone has a voice’ which sounds noble and virtuous but in practice we’re expected to move the world once a week to support whims and individual views of a few spoilt students pretending to be triggered.

I honestly think we will be debating bullshit like this when the Russians/China invade.
The way things are going, that would be the shortest war ever recorded, as an actual army from the real world with history and national pride, fight a bunch of gender neutral, non-agressive (macro and micro) ‘country defenders’ dressed in rainbow outfits who have no idea who they are or any history we once had and no tactics to deploy because they were scrapped due to implicit racist connotations.

These countries don’t and never will give a shit about safe spaces or being triggered, they are laughing at us and most likely pushing it further themselves through social media.

Making everyone weaker by protecting them from history is not a solution.
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But nothing happened.
 
Is it just me or does anyone else think that the government is deliberately trying to divide our country. It's much easier to get away with stuff when you distract people and turn them against each other.

So far recently we have had;
- taking the knee - this stance eventually back fires when England players snub PM
- Turn the boats back - tough talk that actually amounts to no action but gets people arguing
- Johnson manufacturing a row about Churchill where there is nothing to see

The important thing about this for me is the work that the Churchill foundation do, the name is sort of irrelevant. It's not as if Churchill can be air brushed out of history.

There are many other examples of this sort of shit stirring from government ministers and the PM. I don't think that it is a good idea to try to make people angry if you are a responsible government, it's just not good for social cohesion. For those who are getting enraged by this sort of stuff, please understand that you are being played.

Q. What sort of government deliberately ferments conflict for it's own ends?
A. this one
 
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ElBurroSinNombre said:
Is it just me or does anyone else think that the government is deliberately trying to divide our country. It's much easier to get away with stuff when you distract people and turn them against each other.

So far this year we have had;
- taking the knee - this stance eventually back fires when England players snub PM
- Turn the boats back - tough talk that actually amounts to no action but gets people arguing
- Johnson manufacturing a row about Churchill where there is nothing to see

The important thing about this for me is the work that they do, the name is sort of irrelevant. It's not as if Churchill can be air brushed out of history.

Q. What sort of government deliberately ferments conflict for it's own ends?
A. this one
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It works though doesn't it? There's lots of frustrated types out there who see the world changing around them and need to feel important instead of impotent, Johnston just followed Trump's example of lighting little fires and reaping the benefits. It doesn't take much, look how some posters on here reacted to a non story.

No one wins in the end except the rabble rousers, as it always was.
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
Is it just me or does anyone else think that the government is deliberately trying to divide our country. It's much easier to get away with stuff when you distract people and turn them against each other.

So far recently we have had;
- taking the knee - this stance eventually back fires when England players snub PM
- Turn the boats back - tough talk that actually amounts to no action but gets people arguing
- Johnson manufacturing a row about Churchill where there is nothing to see

The important thing about this for me is the work that the Churchill foundation do, the name is sort of irrelevant. It's not as if Churchill can be air brushed out of history.

There are many other examples of this sort of shit stirring from government ministers and the PM. I don't think that it is a good idea to try to make people angry if you are a responsible government, it's just not good for social cohesion. For those who are getting enraged by this sort of stuff, please understand that you are being played.

Q. What sort of government deliberately ferments conflict for it's own ends?
A. this one
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Yes,it helps to keep them in power. The Tories realise that by creating fictitious bogeymen to blame for society’s ills (benefit cheats, the EU, immigrants and now ‘wokes’) they are able to provide a bogus focus for disaffection and encourage people to vote for them against their best interests.
As is evidenced on here, there are plenty of people gullible enough to fall for it!
 
L’étranger said:
Yes,it helps to keep them in power. The Tories realise that by creating fictitious bogeymen to blame for society’s ills (benefit cheats, the EU, immigrants and now ‘wokes’) they are able to provide a bogus focus for disaffection and encourage people to vote for them against their best interests.
As is evidenced on here, there are plenty of people gullible enough to fall for it!
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Everyone soon forgot about the 10% hike in National Insurance for sure, helped by the turning back migrant people boats baloney!
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
Is it just me or does anyone else think that the government is deliberately trying to divide our country. It's much easier to get away with stuff when you distract people and turn them against each other.

So far recently we have had;
- taking the knee - this stance eventually back fires when England players snub PM
- Turn the boats back - tough talk that actually amounts to no action but gets people arguing
- Johnson manufacturing a row about Churchill where there is nothing to see

The important thing about this for me is the work that the Churchill foundation do, the name is sort of irrelevant. It's not as if Churchill can be air brushed out of history.

There are many other examples of this sort of shit stirring from government ministers and the PM. I don't think that it is a good idea to try to make people angry if you are a responsible government, it's just not good for social cohesion. For those who are getting enraged by this sort of stuff, please understand that you are being played.

Q. What sort of government deliberately ferments conflict for it's own ends?
A. this one
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Yes, can't understand why anyone would get wound up about it anyway. It's the organisation's choice. They're still bearing his name.
 
L’étranger said:
Yes,it helps to keep them in power. The Tories realise that by creating fictitious bogeymen to blame for society’s ills (benefit cheats, the EU, immigrants and now ‘wokes’) they are able to provide a bogus focus for disaffection and encourage people to vote for them against their best interests.
As is evidenced on here, there are plenty of people gullible enough to fall for it!
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It's insane how everything that is wrong isn't the fault of neo liberalism (the dominant ideology of all governments of the last 40 years) but apparently the fault of some kind of invisible cabal of 'loony lefties' who have infected all the councils, newspapers and twitter. This ignores the fact that councils have fuck all power, the newspapers and tv are on their arse and twitter is irrelevant.

It's almost as if seeding a culture war distracts from who holds the actual reins.
 
td53 said:
It's insane how everything that is wrong isn't the fault of neo liberalism (the dominant ideology of all governments of the last 40 years) but apparently the fault of some kind of invisible cabal of 'loony lefties' who have infected all the councils, newspapers and twitter. This ignores the fact that councils have fuck all power, the newspapers and tv are on their arse and twitter is irrelevant.

It's almost as if seeding a culture war distracts from who holds the actual reins.
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Or maybe some folk don't like some of the ridiculous actions of what you call "loony lefties" but don't think that they are to blame for everything or that there is too much wrong ?

Many of these folk might be lefties themselves ?
 
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