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Benjamin...... Net-In-Yah-Who already rejected Hamas offer of a cease fire yesterday

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Well you need to complain to the BBC news then for misinformation.

Watched it myself on the 6pm news, Israeli PM visiting the iron dome defence battery or whatever it’s called said the rockets must stop being fired into Israel first then they would stop.

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I bet Iran has an itchy trigger finger at the moment
They may well have, but in a war between Israel and Iran there will only be one winner …. and that’s not Tehran.

Iran has vowed to wipe Israel off the map and as we know is desperate for Nuclear weapons.

Israel in the past has vowed they will never have them at any cost.

That’s going to to end well isn’t it?!!!
 
They may well have, but in a war between Israel and Iran there will only be one winner …. and that’s not Tehran.

Iran has vowed to wipe Israel off the map and as we know is desperate for Nuclear weapons.

Israel in the past has vowed they will never have them at any cost.

That’s going to to end well isn’t it?!!!
When you can assassinate the Iranian chief nuclear scientist in the way the Israelis did from a remote control gun set inside a van with his wife sat next to him in a car who wasn’t even injured yet he got two shots to the head tells you all you need to know about the Israeli armed forces.
Have all the latest American hardware as well as the latest technology.
 
Surely it would have served Hamas better if they provided evidence of land grab and forced evictions to the UN and demanded real action?
Appealed to the US and Europe and to the Arab States for assistance in the legal challenge.
Built up a media campaign of the real injustice. Peaceful and sustained protest.

Launching missiles indiscriminately into Civilian areas is not going to help their cause no matter how much Israel bully and provoke them.


“Peaceful and sustained protest!”

You can’t be serious 😳

It’s hard to believe that a nation that was persecuted by the Germans could do the same to the Palestinians ever since they were allowed to move to Palestine just after the end of the 2nd World War.
 
“Peaceful and sustained protest!”

You can’t be serious 😳

It’s hard to believe that a nation that was persecuted by the Germans could do the same to the Palestinians ever since they were allowed to move to Palestine just after the end of the 2nd World War.
I don’t recall ever reading about gassing 4 Million Palestinians? 🤔
 
When you can assassinate the Iranian chief nuclear scientist in the way the Israelis did from a remote control gun set inside a van with his wife sat next to him in a car who wasn’t even injured yet he got two shots to the head tells you all you need to know about the Israeli armed forces.
Have all the latest American hardware as well as the latest technology.
A lot of the latest military tech is from and developed by Israel - the world learns from it!
 
Israel is developing its own tech at speed - It’s a mini Silicon Valley!
Israel over the years has bought some great jet fighters namely the Mirage years ago and developed its own fighter from it (kfir) more recently bought F-15 F-16 and F-35 Lightning.
 
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Israel over the years has bought some great jet fighters namely the Mirage, F-15 F-16 and developed its own technology from them.
Totally agree - but Israel is now one of the tech innovation hubs of the world for its own ingenuity, and not just copying things.

Arguably - after Silicon Valley (where companies are leaving in droves) it’s probably the second biggest innovation hub in the world. (Some would say maybe Singapore is bigger, but in reality they are 2 and 3 however you measure it)

The other big ones and in no order - are the UK, Berlin, Shanghai, Tokyo and New York.
 
I’ve been to Israel, Tel Aviv, the Red Sea, driven partly on the Gaza Strip and been to Jerusalem.

Tel Aviv was lovely, the rest was a bit of a toilet to be honest and somewhere I wouldn’t choose to live.

Security is at levels that I have never seen and the attitude of most Israelis towards the Palestinians was very similar to what I have seen in South Africa with the white population against the locals!!!

In SA an apartheid is not in place anymore, but in many cases it may as well be.

Football takes you to some different places if you let it!!!!
 
It's a bit strange that if you criticise the ethnic cleansing of Palestine by Israel you're immediately labelled an anti semite by some, which is why the media avoid it.
Very true Lytham, definitely fearful and shows a clear lack of understanding of anything outside his own little bubble (spare bedroom).
 
I’ve never been so I can’t really comment, but I’d imagine it’s not the nicest of places.

You have been commenting though. You don’t have to live there or to have been there. Just 5 mins of of some basic research and you will be able to extend your knowledge on the conditions of living in Gaza ....
 
I’ve been to Israel, Tel Aviv, the Red Sea, driven partly on the Gaza Strip and been to Jerusalem.

Tel Aviv was lovely, the rest was a bit of a toilet to be honest and somewhere I wouldn’t choose to live.

Security is at levels that I have never seen and the attitude of most Israelis towards the Palestinians was very similar to what I have seen in South Africa with the white population against the locals!!!

In SA an apartheid is not in place anymore, but in many cases it may as well be.

Football takes you to some different places if you let it!!!!

I’ve also spent some months in Israel, Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Beersheba, The Negev and the Red Sea area when it was under Israel’s control before it was returned to Egypt.

It was certainly much safer then.

SA is controlled by the ANC completely and utterly. The corruption has been unstoppable for at least the last 10 years all the state companies have been looted.

Similar to what Boris and his mates get up to
 
I’ve also spent some months in Israel, Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Beersheba, The Negev and the Red Sea area when it was under Israel’s control before it was returned to Egypt.

It was certainly much safer then.

SA is controlled by the ANC completely and utterly. The corruption has been unstoppable for at least the last 10 years all the state companies have been looted.

Similar to what Boris and his mates get up to
The last part of your comment is simply ridiculous - and ruins the legitimacy of the comments before.
 
Seems to me like most of the world doesn't care about what's happening over there ,(for what it's worth and I don't do politics) ,the Palestinians may be better off giving up and admit defeat, a bit like Hitler did when he ran away to his bunker ,and concentrate on integrating in Israel (fuck the religion bit) and save generations of children being killed ,it stinks does religion and politics.
This is the year 2021 ,what the fuck is wrong with the world it's gone mad .🤪.
 
Seems to me like most of the world doesn't care about what's happening over there ,(for what it's worth and I don't do politics) ,the Palestinians may be better off giving up and admit defeat, a bit like Hitler did when he ran away to his bunker ,and concentrate on integrating in Israel (fuck the religion bit) and save generations of children being killed ,it stinks does religion and politics.
This is the year 2021 ,what the fuck is wrong with the world it's gone mad .🤪.
The US would never allow that though, they like having their secure little non Arab state in the Middle East.

None of this is even religion really, its super power intervention to control their own interests.
 
I hate to say this but, I don't think this situation will EVER be solved.
Why don't the leaders of each side have a proper parley to try to sort it out?
There must be some way which can satisfy both factions.
Use an independent Chair Person.
If one could be found of course.
Funnily enough I was playing my Don McClean disc last week whilst ironing. Yes, I do the ironing. 🙄
There is a track called 'Jerusalem'. However, he doesn't mention the problems.
 
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Just sat here watching Sky News and Mrs One piped up and said ‘do you know what this is….’

She the said it’s a ‘Holly Cluster FcK’

Not sure anyone can disagree with such great punditry!!!?
 
A 60 and a 80 year old women killed and 95 Israeli folk injured and that was just today-Tuesday but hey lets not get your prejudices in the way.
Posts like yours ( note: I don't mean posters like you), just continue the same old attrition.
Look, I can understand and do support the Palestinians' aims of self-determination. No, I don't support Hamas they are a terrorist-operating leadership but they were elected.
On the Israeli side, they are the State, recognised by the UN. But, they continue to act dishonourable, they break agreements and, under Netenyahu they are an apartheid regime that has no interest in the two state solution
Noe of this is going to be solved so long as Israel continues to receive complicit American support.
 
I think blaming America is a bit of a cop out. This has been going on for centuries before anyone even knew about the USA. As long as they both want to believe in fairy stories that contradict each other it will never end. I’m pretty confident it won’t end in anyone’s lifetime on here.
 
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The US would never allow that though, they like having their secure little non Arab state in the Middle East.

None of this is even religion really, its super power intervention to control their own interests.e what

The US would never allow that though, they like having their secure little non Arab state in the Middle East.

None of this is even religion really, its super power intervention to control their own interests.
 
I think blaming America is a bit of a cop out. This has been going on for centuries before anyone even knew about the USA. As long as they both want to believe in fairy stories that contradict each other it will never end. I’m pretty confident it won’t end in anyone’s lifetime on here.
No it isn't and it hasn't. The centuries old fight has been between religious sects. This is between a modern Nation-State and a people whose nation was taken from them. Religion overlaps, yes, but it does not explain the current tragedy.
 
I can understand and do support the Scots aims of self-determination. No, I don't support the Tories they are a terrorist-operating leadership but they were elected.
On the U.K. side, they are the State recognised by the UN. But, they continue to act dishonourably, they break agreements and, under Bojo, they are an apartheid regime that has no interest in the two state solution
None of this is going to be solved so long as the U.K. continues to receive complicit Avftt support.
Fake news was never easier to create 😉
 
Posts like yours ( note: I don't mean posters like you), just continue the same old attrition.
Look, I can understand and do support the Palestinians' aims of self-determination. No, I don't support Hamas they are a terrorist-operating leadership but they were elected.
On the Israeli side, they are the State, recognised by the UN. But, they continue to act dishonourable, they break agreements and, under Netenyahu they are an apartheid regime that has no interest in the two state solution
Noe of this is going to be solved so long as Israel continues to receive complicit American support.
But that gives no solutions to the problem bombing the shit out of the Israelis killing someone's mother and grandmother is going to make the bear even angrier.
 
I’ve also spent some months in Israel, Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Beersheba, The Negev and the Red Sea area when it was under Israel’s control before it was returned to Egypt.

It was certainly much safer then.

SA is controlled by the ANC completely and utterly. The corruption has been unstoppable for at least the last 10 years all the state companies have been looted.

Similar to what Boris and his mates get up to
So what's your answer?
 
No it isn't and it hasn't. The centuries old fight has been between religious sects. This is between a modern Nation-State and a people whose nation was taken from them. Religion overlaps, yes, but it does not explain the current tragedy.
Give over, the fundamental problem here is religion, always has been always will be.
 
Thus seems an excellent play by Israel to separate the terrorists from the civilians in Gaza. Early reports suggest 100s of Hamas terrorists killed in the tunnels...

 
Give over, the fundamental problem here is religion, always has been always will be.
You are forgetting the creation of Israel in 1948, taking Palestine and part of Jordan and, ashamedly, based on the 1918 Balfour declaration of finding a home for the Zionist Jews.
It is NOT just about religion. The state of Israel is signed up to a two state solution that includes a homeland for the Palestinians and yet they do everything they can to oppose it. The new homelands on the West Bank were all about filling the area with ex-pat US Zionist extremists. There are negotiable Israelis ( not all are Jews btw) but it's Netenyahu in charge and he ain't for moderating the Jewish expansionist claims.
 
You are forgetting the creation of Israel in 1948, taking Palestine and part of Jordan and, ashamedly, based on the 1918 Balfour declaration of finding a home for the Zionist Jews.
It is NOT just about religion. The state of Israel is signed up to a two state solution that includes a homeland for the Palestinians and yet they do everything they can to oppose it. The new homelands on the West Bank were all about filling the area with ex-pat US Zionist extremists. There are negotiable Israelis ( not all are Jews btw) but it's Netenyahu in charge and he ain't for moderating the Jewish expansionist claims.
I’m not forgetting anything. I know the story.
 
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