It’s all a bit great isn’t it

Hazi

Hazi

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From where we were under the stains, a car crash embarrassment of a club, to now, an amazing custodian in Simon Sadler, a club that improves every single day, stadia, infrastructure, training ground, exciting young talented players with more to come and one of Europe’s top qualified coaches with for the first time in our history a full back room team of professionals. This club is very Much on the up, the future is most definitely tangerine, there is no magic wand and from where we were it was always going to take time. UTMP
 
62years&counting said:
Huge improvements off the field but underwhelming on the field.
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It takes time - the problem is we live in a binge culture where everyone expects everything NOW.

TV is the perfect example - rarely do you have to wait until the next week to find out what happened - you just select next episode.

Quite sad really - part of life is looking forward to things, and that has somewhat been removed from a lot of society recently.
 
Hazi said:
From where we were under the stains, a car crash embarrassment of a club, to now, an amazing custodian in Simon Sadler, a club that improves every single day, stadia, infrastructure, training ground, exciting young talented players with more to come and one of Europe’s top qualified coaches with for the first time in our history a full back room team of professionals. This club is very Much on the up, the future is most definitely tangerine, there is no magic wand and from where we were it was always going to take time. UTMP
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All good we have a future at last.
 
TANGERINETOWERPOWER said:
Hard to disagree with that Hazi...the team will come together at some point and then we will be a force to reckon with...I dont see any problem in discussing the team and the merits and shortcomings of our players...in fact its brilliant to talk football instead of moron owners
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Our players do not have shortcomings, they have improvement opportunities. First team I can relate to for many years so I cut them some slack
 
seasideone said:
It takes time - the problem is we live in a binge culture where everyone expects everything NOW.

TV is the perfect example - rarely do you have to wait until the next week to find out what happened - you just select next episode.

Quite sad really - part of life is looking forward to things, and that has somewhat been removed from a lot of society recently.
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Exactly. Too many I want it and I want it NOW fans. 62 years being a prime example of that.
 
To be fair a lot of the criticism of the on the pitch football is well reasoned and from genuine Blackpool fans who are just commentating on the games. As with anything there will be some who take it too far and that often seems to be the ones we notice more: "the loudest voice in the room" and all that..

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a Blackpool fan who has anything bad to say about us as a football club these days, it is good our main worries are on-pitch worries now!
 
Well it's a typical Hazi post and there's nothing particularly wrong with it and it's right that he's so positive but it's all about looking forward, I don't want to look back. By looking back you're looking for excuses to perhaps why it isn't going quite as well at the moment as many hoped it would. Yes, we've a great new owner who is a fan himself and is prepared to back the manager. We've a manager who is untested and relatively inexperienced in management at senior level but is learning day by day and in the long term I'm sure he'll prove himself to be very good at what he's doing. And then there's the players. A massive turn around of players last summer, some have been a big success, some ok and some who have been extremely disappointing but that's football for you. But it's not unreasonable as a fan that just like Sadler we want to start seeing some sort of progress on the pitch, some sort of better level of consistency in our performances. A pretty big investment in forward thinking players has resulted in us still having only scored 21 goals in 21 games. We also don't create anywhere near enough. There are still a lot of issues to address if we want to get to where we ALL want to be.
 
20togo said:
Well it's a typical Hazi post and there's nothing particularly wrong with it and it's right that he's so positive but it's all about looking forward, I don't want to look back. By looking back you're looking for excuses to perhaps why it isn't going quite as well at the moment as many hoped it would. Yes, we've a great new owner who is a fan himself and is prepared to back the manager. We've a manager who is untested and relatively inexperienced in management at senior level but is learning day by day and in the long term I'm sure he'll prove himself to be very good at what he's doing. And then there's the players. A massive turn around of players last summer, some have been a big success, some ok and some who have been extremely disappointing but that's football for you. But it's not unreasonable as a fan that just like Sadler we want to start seeing some sort of progress on the pitch, some sort of better level of consistency in our performances. A pretty big investment in forward thinking players has resulted in us still having only scored 21 goals in 21 games. We also don't create anywhere near enough. There are still a lot of issues to address if we want to get to where we ALL want to be.
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Surely though, you should always look back - as History is the greatest teacher of all?

Also, if you do not look back you will not know how far you have come.

None of the above means that you should not look forward though obviously, as you need to have a goal and work towards it.
 
Ah the "absolutely no opinions or criticism of anything Blackpool FC allowed fingers in your ears "La la la la don't want to hear it" because it's all rather spiffing thread"!
 
seasideone said:
It takes time - the problem is we live in a binge culture where everyone expects everything NOW.

TV is the perfect example - rarely do you have to wait until the next week to find out what happened - you just select next episode.

Quite sad really - part of life is looking forward to things, and that has somewhat been removed from a lot of society recently.
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First para spot on 👍
 
Hazi said:
From where we were under the stains, a car crash embarrassment of a club, to now, an amazing custodian in Simon Sadler, a club that improves every single day, stadia, infrastructure, training ground, exciting young talented players with more to come and one of Europe’s top qualified coaches with for the first time in our history a full back room team of professionals. This club is very Much on the up, the future is most definitely tangerine, there is no magic wand and from where we were it was always going to take time. UTMP
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When fans are disappointed when we only get a point away at second in the league shows we are on the up!
 
It might be great this time next year. It’s all very average at the moment. Which is good considering the last few years.
 
seasideone said:
Surely though, you should always look back - as History is the greatest teacher of all?

Also, if you do not look back you will not know how far you have come.

None of the above means that you should not look forward though obviously, as you need to have a goal and work towards it.
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Yep one, I should have perhaps expanded my point more about looking back but I think you get the general gist of my point. Yep, the Oystons will always be remembered as a stain on our history but we can't keep using them as a gauge as to how far we've come and how far we are going.
 
Lala said:
First para spot on 👍
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No its nonsense it isn't a tv show

This is football where fans have expectations and ambitions

We have to be the best that we can possibly be

No shock to see you and seasideone having this view though

Lets not forget you both spent years defending the Oystons on this board
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
No its nonsense it isn't a tv show

This is football where fans have expectations and ambitions

We have to be the best that we can possibly be

No shock to see you and seasideone having this view though

Lets not forget you both spent years defending the Oystons on this board
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I agreed with Seaside’s point as a general viewpoint of current society. And I still totally agree with it even if you say ‘ no it’s nonsense !’
It’s still my opinion.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
No its nonsense it isn't a tv show

This is football where fans have expectations and ambitions

We have to be the best that we can possibly be

No shock to see you and seasideone having this view though

Lets not forget you both spent years defending the Oystons on this board
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I did defend the Oystons, as many did for a while, but I did wise up and was NAPM for many many years.

We all know it is not a TV show, but the point is that in todays society people expect everything to happen straight away and it takes time.

We do have to be the best we possibly can be, but again it takes time and will not happen overnight, or in one full season!!
 
seasideone said:
It takes time - the problem is we live in a binge culture where everyone expects everything NOW.

TV is the perfect example - rarely do you have to wait until the next week to find out what happened - you just select next episode.

Quite sad really - part of life is looking forward to things, and that has somewhat been removed from a lot of society recently.
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I don't disagree, but mid table we were and mid table we are, with little in the way of excitement.
 
Macseasider said:
There is a distinct effort by a number of posters who seem hell bent on curbing / stifling / belittling anyone's opinion other than "everything is magnificent". NO criticism is allowed of any aspect of the club.
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And a number of posters who get hot under the collar at a positive post. As long as the club is trying its very best to do everything right that is all we can ask, we spent 30 years of not trying our best.
 
To successfully build for the future we need the foundations to be secure.

The club have done brilliantly so far but still have a long way to go - new training ground being the most obvious., which in fairness appears to be being sorted.

In the terms of a marathon we have given most teams in football an hour start, however we are catching them up.

What most people do not think about is that when you take over a failing or failed project, you some times have to go backwards first before you can go forward.

BFC is still in a massive transformational change for the better so the fact we are mid table and playing some decent football is a plus. With the Os and when SG was in charge you couldn't see it being vastly improved over time - now you can.

We now have better players who are mainly young with a sprinkling of experience, when they gel properly you can see them ripping a few teams a new one - now I could never see that before NC took over - well since Ollie anyway!

We are not there yet, but the future IS bright and it IS Tangerine 😎
 
Hazi said:
And a number of posters who get hot under the collar at a positive post. As long as the club is trying its very best to do everything right that is all we can ask, we spent 30 years of not trying our best.
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Fact is though that those 30 years of not trying our best still got us into the PL. Somehow!
 
Same old mentality. We've had a broken leg for 30 years, someone came along with a magic wand from a distant land, gave the wand to his trusted foot soldiers to spread the magic. We no longer have a broken leg, but we have a fractured arm.

Now that Sadler is based in the UK, I trust he'll keep a closer eye and control on who has the wand and what they do with it. That, hopefully should heal the arm, but let's not pretend that because we don't have a broken leg we are Utopia FC. That would be complacent and stupid.
 
20togo said:
Well it's a typical Hazi post and there's nothing particularly wrong with it and it's right that he's so positive but it's all about looking forward, I don't want to look back. By looking back you're looking for excuses to perhaps why it isn't going quite as well at the moment as many hoped it would. Yes, we've a great new owner who is a fan himself and is prepared to back the manager. We've a manager who is untested and relatively inexperienced in management at senior level but is learning day by day and in the long term I'm sure he'll prove himself to be very good at what he's doing. And then there's the players. A massive turn around of players last summer, some have been a big success, some ok and some who have been extremely disappointing but that's football for you. But it's not unreasonable as a fan that just like Sadler we want to start seeing some sort of progress on the pitch, some sort of better level of consistency in our performances. A pretty big investment in forward thinking players has resulted in us still having only scored 21 goals in 21 games. We also don't create anywhere near enough. There are still a lot of issues to address if we want to get to where we ALL want to be.
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But with any good developing team, at any age level, you get inconsistency. Some don’t understand that.

It’s been consistent improvement, with the odd poor performance. Shrewsbury was the worst, but that was team selection. Oxford not as bad, but again, team selection wasn’t right, and Bristol, well we played very well should have won by half-time. Our inexperience cost us that game, but it’s to be expected.

Hazi is bang on, no ifs or buts.

Yesterday was a highly professional performance against a good side. Credit to NC, who is also learning his trade at this level.
 
Macseasider said:
There is a distinct effort by a number of posters who seem hell bent on curbing / stifling / belittling anyone's opinion other than "everything is magnificent". NO criticism is allowed of any aspect of the club.
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I think there is a balance between both which we individually have to decide where that is . Sometimes I see negative posts against certain players at certain times which are I think are stupid and I also see praise at certain times which I also think is ridiculous . I see both points of view but don’t get bothered or annoyed by either as they are all opinions
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
But with any good developing team, at any age level, you get inconsistency. Some don’t understand that.

It’s been consistent improvement, with the odd poor performance. Shrewsbury was the worst, but that was team selection. Oxford not as bad, but again, team selection wasn’t right, and Bristol, well we played very well should have won by half-time. Our inexperience cost us that game, but it’s to be expected.

Hazi is bang on, no ifs or buts.
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He's not bang on at all, it's just that you agree with him.
I find it amusing that you refer to our inconsistency in your opening line and then talk about our consistent improvement. There's been as many poor performances this season as there have been good ones. Deal with some facts. Our goal scoring record of 21 goals is very poor.. Only one team has scored less and that's from two fewer games. We create very few clear chances in games. We still have major problems to resolve. Don't bury your head in the sand to that.
 
20togo said:
He's not bang on at all, it's just that you agree with him.
I find it amusing that you refer to our inconsistency in your opening line and then talk about our consistent improvement. There's been as many poor performances this season as there have been good ones. Deal with some facts. Our goal scoring record of 21 goals is very poor.. Only one team has scored less and that's from two fewer games. We create very few clear chances in games. We still have major problems to resolve. Don't bury your head in the sand to that.
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I didn't actually realise we had scored so few goals

That fact and it is a fact just reinforces my point about the style and systems that we have been playing

It is possible to be critical of the manager and his tactics but also supportive of the club and the owner

We all want success after such a poor few years and as fans have every right to be critical of the performances on the pitch
 
Hazi said:
From where we were under the stains, a car crash embarrassment of a club, to now, an amazing custodian in Simon Sadler, a club that improves every single day, stadia, infrastructure, training ground, exciting young talented players with more to come and one of Europe’s top qualified coaches with for the first time in our history a full back room team of professionals.
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I thought you said a room of professional full backs. I was going to agree with you. Bloody loads of em.
 
20togo said:
Fact is though that those 30 years of not trying our best still got us into the PL. Somehow!
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Correct and having a sugar daddy doesn't guarantee success either.
It's the players and managers who get the grief since SS took over how long before the owner gets turned on if we don't succeed or has he got a free pass?
 
I don’t think you can throw a ‘poor few years’ at the current regime Phil. We are rebuilding from below bottom (receivership) the foundations are still being laid.
 
Hazi said:
From where we were under the stains, a car crash embarrassment of a club, to now, an amazing custodian in Simon Sadler, a club that improves every single day, stadia, infrastructure, training ground, exciting young talented players with more to come and one of Europe’s top qualified coaches with for the first time in our history a full back room team of professionals. This club is very Much on the up, the future is most definitely tangerine, there is no magic wand and from where we were it was always going to take time. UTMP
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Top post 👏🏻
 
We're heading in the right direction, and will over time continue to improve.
But, as we have a young team and a young manager, we will of course stutter and sometimes appear to take a step or two backwards, that's football and life.
Hopefully we'll see a couple of players of real quality arrive before the window closes.
We're a work in progress, but there are far more positives than negatives should you care to look for them. We have built a solid base and we are hard to beat, we just need to start creating and burying more chances.
Sadly there are some fans who are still more concerned about being proved right than the team being successful. Fortunately they're getting fewer in number as most realise we are heading somewhere, it just isn't going to be as immediate as we all would have liked.
 
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poolseasider said:
Correct and having a sugar daddy doesn't guarantee success either.
It's the players and managers who get the grief since SS took over how long before the owner gets turned on if we don't succeed or has he got a free pass?
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As long as he continues to back the club wholeheartedly which I have no doubt he will, he has a free pass.
 
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