Kevin Stewart signs 18 month deal

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The football under Grayson was awful to watch and it just kept getting worse. it's alright comparing stats up to January but Grayson then had a shocking run of results so compare like for like when Grayson's tenure ended.

He had a team of rag tag and bobtails but some decent loan players. We have practically a completely new squad now and you can see we have some really good players and better than what Grayson put together. I have enjoyed the football this season, it was awful to watch under Grayson.

I think you’ve missed the jist of the comments in comparison to last season.
We all accept the football under Grayson was dire. The points here were:

The football under Critchley is also largely crap it’s just slightly more aesthetic. So if you’ve enjoyed this season I’d argue you’re very easily pleased. We’ve scored 9 less goals? How have you enjoyed that more than last season haul?

Grayson also had a new squad, with new players and also arguable more upheaval at the club, I.e. players that were recently signed that he couldn’t use.

Critch has by and large had more money to spend.

Well of course a comparison of 27 games would be handy and probably will happen at the time but it’s taking a lot of time to get there. It also could be very damming for NC, we’ll have to wait and see

So the questions I wanted to ask were around the differing amounts of patience each manager was given by the fan base and why?

The conclusions were that, both, currently equally as bad, but we all see more of a future with Critch and the club above him working together to form a successful model at the club. However we can’t wait forever so we need to see some form of improvement at the latest of next season.

 

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I think you’ve missed the jist of the comments in comparison to last season.
We all accept the football under Grayson was dire. The points here were:

The football under Critchley is also largely crap it’s just slightly more aesthetic. So if you’ve enjoyed this season I’d argue you’re very easily pleased. We’ve scored 9 less goals? How have you enjoyed that more than last season haul?

Grayson also had a new squad, with new players and also arguable more upheaval at the club, I.e. players that were recently signed that he couldn’t use.

Critch has by and large had more money to spend.

Well of course a comparison of 27 games would be handy and probably will happen at the time but it’s taking a lot of time to get there. It also could be very damming for NC, we’ll have to wait and see

So the questions I wanted to ask were around the differing amounts of patience each manager was given by the fan base and why?

The conclusions were that, both, currently equally as bad, but we all see more of a future with Critch and the club above him working together to form a successful model at the club. However we can’t wait forever so we need to see some form of improvement at the latest of next season.

Because it was only going one way under Grayson and he looked like a manager who was lost. Comparing managers is like comparing apples and oranges, Grayson seemed like a great idea at the time but it was clear it wasn't what SS wanted or how he wanted the football to be played or club managed. So he got hold of a progressive but inexperienced manager (albeit not his first choice) with good credentials and promise of delivering the sort of football he and the supporters want to see and associate with BFC. For this to succeed he saw it as a lon term project and wasn't expecting us to rip up trees in the first season.

There were some issues with recruitment of players but if you put players like CJ, Yates, Dougall, Anderson, Stewart, Mitchell, Garbutt, Ekpiteta, Gretarrson, Ballard & Gabriel are better players than those they have replaced and have the potential to improve further and then add on the likes of Maxwell, Turton, Ward, Kaikai, Virtue & Madine who were already here then that is the basis of a very very good squad who are learning a new system in a stop start season, no supporters and an isolated lifestyle. Of course, we would all love the team to have got it from the start and that we were doing better position wise, and we can see where the problems are and the positions that need filling. This will hopefully all fall into place this summer.

We had a terrible start to the season and a terrible 3 games over Christmas, other than that we have had some great results and had a really great run. I will predict that when we get playing again we will continue to improve and score more goals and I think we will flirt with the play offs, which would be a good first season. We have hardly played any home games either.

As for enjoying the games, then yes I have, and I really am not easily pleased, I think it has been good to watch, the best since Ollie left in a different way and I can see where they are going with it. It can be frustrating with the lack of goals, but we are now pretty solid at the back and with Yates and Madine up front we should be getting more goals, which shows where we are lacking. I think it is easy to forget how turgid the football under Grayson was, we are worlds apart from that now.

So halfway through his first season I think a plea for patience is required, SS will have plenty of it and I should think he is pretty happy with the way things are going and he's the boss. Let Critch have some time, chopping and changing doesn't work unless the managers really are dire, but this one isn't but he needs the time to develop what he wants and I am looking forward to the journey.

Good football debate though!

 

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Because it was only going one way under Grayson and he looked like a manager who was lost. Comparing managers is like comparing apples and oranges, Grayson seemed like a great idea at the time but it was clear it wasn't what SS wanted or how he wanted the football to be played or club managed. So he got hold of a progressive but inexperienced manager (albeit not his first choice) with good credentials and promise of delivering the sort of football he and the supporters want to see and associate with BFC. For this to succeed he saw it as a lon term project and wasn't expecting us to rip up trees in the first season.

There were some issues with recruitment of players but if you put players like CJ, Yates, Dougall, Anderson, Stewart, Mitchell, Garbutt, Ekpiteta, Gretarrson, Ballard & Gabriel are better players than those they have replaced and have the potential to improve further and then add on the likes of Maxwell, Turton, Ward, Kaikai, Virtue & Madine who were already here then that is the basis of a very very good squad who are learning a new system in a stop start season, no supporters and an isolated lifestyle. Of course, we would all love the team to have got it from the start and that we were doing better position wise, and we can see where the problems are and the positions that need filling. This will hopefully all fall into place this summer.

We had a terrible start to the season and a terrible 3 games over Christmas, other than that we have had some great results and had a really great run. I will predict that when we get playing again we will continue to improve and score more goals and I think we will flirt with the play offs, which would be a good first season. We have hardly played any home games either.

As for enjoying the games, then yes I have, and I really am not easily pleased, I think it has been good to watch, the best since Ollie left in a different way and I can see where they are going with it. It can be frustrating with the lack of goals, but we are now pretty solid at the back and with Yates and Madine up front we should be getting more goals, which shows where we are lacking. I think it is easy to forget how turgid the football under Grayson was, we are worlds apart from that now.

So halfway through his first season I think a plea for patience is required, SS will have plenty of it and I should think he is pretty happy with the way things are going and he's the boss. Let Critch have some time, chopping and changing doesn't work unless the managers really are dire, but this one isn't but he needs the time to develop what he wants and I am looking forward to the journey.

Good football debate though!

I agree with a lot of what you say and disagree with a bit. But really I think you have just summed up a lot of our thoughts on the matter.

I do think that there is a comparison to be made. Even if only to continue the argument for managers being given longer to prove their credentials in football.

The question I’d raise regarding this, and it’s a slightly pointless counter factual now, is, if Grayson had stayed and been given time with Madine, been able to sign Yates, Dougall, Marv and Stewart would we be further along than we already are now?

I ask because I have a half thought that we may have pissed away 12 months because a manager was going through a bad spell, which they all do. ( but like I say I wasn’t shedding tears at Graysons departure). This will all be academic of Critch turns out to be really good and gets us promoted. But then the whole point of the question is to advocate for him being given time, so in theory it’s a pointless thought. Yes I’m deep down the rabbit hole with this one. .

The only other point of push back on is I’ve enjoyed Critch’s tenure the exact same amount as Grayson’s, largely disappointing with the odd moment of joy. It’s turgid just with a different dressing to what Grayson put on his offering.

But like I’ve made out, Grayson’s time has gone, we’ll never know the ‘what ifs’ but it points to, for me Critch needing a minimum of 18 months from now before we really evaluate why he can do and where we’re at as a club

 

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There was a lot wrong with that transfer. SS wasn’t best pleased.

You’re right to scratch it up in the negatives for Grayson and in a way that alone was a sackable offence. Hundreds of thousands of pounds of the clubs money on an insider deal. Terrible.

Don't bring me into it.