Lake District here we come

Because for many people, exercise (in a variety of forms) is (and has been for many, many years) a very important part of their life (just as watching BFC or going to the pub is too 🙂 )… fair enough if it isn't for you but I'm not sure why it's puzzling? Am afraid for me, going for a short local walk around Cleveleys, although pleasant enough, just doesn't "cut the mustard".
I used to use the gym 4 times a week's now I keep fit by running or cycling, I don't go more than 15 miles away from my house, seems to be keeping me in decent nick and keeping the weight off, still puzzled why people need to drive 60 or 70miles for "excercise", its just a bollocks excuse to go for a picnic.
 
Yes, hav

Anecdotally, I think the 10% of "covidiots" are not generally people who want to go outside to do some "real", proper exercise by themselves or with members of their household, Athers... more likely the sort of people who've been holding "secret" parties, bbqs, liaising with others not in their household etc. As someone who under normal circumstances travels to the Lakes/Dales/Peaks for fellrunning/hiking/mtn biking etc roughly every 2 weeks or so (and am happy to go alone if that's the option), I maintain I'm far more likely to catch the disease during my once weekly trip to Lidl. I've followed the rules "religiously" and will continue to do so - and sincerely hope that any clarification tomorrow doesn't change what appears to be the new exercise freedom - but if it does, I'll comply. But the scientific evidence suggests (as others have said) that travelling to exercise outdoors is NOT a big risk factor.

Hope you’re right. Always the minority who ruin it for the majority
 
Are you deliberately missing the point, again? It isn't the exercise, it is the getting there, the accidents, the support needed, all unnecessary if you exercise from home.

AS for blaming the opposition for the Government's rules, when the Government have done so little to engage with anyone but themselves and SAGE, I think you are projecting your prejudices a little far.
I think the accidents reason is a bit of a red herring, I'm more likely to get run over by a lycra Armstrong at the moment.

I'll say it for the last time, driving to an open space is MUCH less risky than swerving around people while walking on narrow pavements.
 
Yes, hav

Anecdotally, I think the 10% of "covidiots" are not generally people who want to go outside to do some "real", proper exercise by themselves or with members of their household, Athers... more likely the sort of people who've been holding "secret" parties, bbqs, liaising with others not in their household etc. As someone who under normal circumstances travels to the Lakes/Dales/Peaks for fellrunning/hiking/mtn biking etc roughly every 2 weeks or so (and am happy to go alone if that's the option), I maintain I'm far more likely to catch the disease during my once weekly trip to Lidl. I've followed the rules "religiously" and will continue to do so - and sincerely hope that any clarification tomorrow doesn't change what appears to be the new exercise freedom - but if it does, I'll comply. But the scientific evidence suggests (as others have said) that travelling to exercise outdoors is NOT a big risk factor.
The one fly in the ointment is that Cumbria has the highest rate of admissions per head of population through COVID
 
Gyms, who needs them? never been in one, Keep fit by walking/jogging on St Annes beach, loads of space, then home for 15mins of 5 Tibetan Rites(Fountain of Youth) 5x10 resistance bands(red) Then 1minute headstand combining leg excercises. That’s One hour of keep fit, followed by 5mins of meditation, all for free! Namaste.🙏
 
The question of fairness never came into it. The lockdown has done its job and it needed to be unequivocal. If it wasn't, it wouldn't have done its job and made policing it a nightmare. I wonder what the police feel about the 'go where you want to, whenever you want to' conclusion.

Whilst I personally can understand what I am now able to do and not do, I still think the blithe dismissal of questions about what people are able to do or not is a little, I dunno, insensitive.

Not everyone is equipped with the same knowledge. One of my friends (a lovely, intelligent, educated person) literally didn't know what a virus was at the outset of this.

I don't agree with Boris on most things, but I find the lad quite charming and I admire his eloquence and sense of occaison. I think one thing he can never be accused of (like me, in some ways) is brevity and razor sharp clarity.

We've switched from 'don't worry' to 'it's ok, we're going to meet it head on and bosh it' to 'everyone home!' to 'shit, lock the doors' to 'if you're seen out, the stassi will get you' to 'ok, crack on with it lads and lasses'

On the one hand, staying home is the right thing to do, on the other it's a desertion of our duty to the economy and the need to support each other.

It's ok to be confused about what the right and wrong thing to do is. You don't have to be certain and confusion shouldn't be met with mockery.


That works fine for me cos though I'm near the centre of Lancaster I can be in woodland or estuary or the edge of Bowland in very little time on my bike, but it must be nightmare living in the middle of city as many do. I've literally thought 'thank fuck I don't live in London' everyday when I've been out.
London has a large number of parks. Probably more than most other UK cities.
 
I used to use the gym 4 times a week's now I keep fit by running or cycling, I don't go more than 15 miles away from my house, seems to be keeping me in decent nick and keeping the weight off, still puzzled why people need to drive 60 or 70miles for "excercise", its just a bollocks excuse to go for a picnic.
For the solitude of a decent hill walk. What irony that it isn't allowed just now.
 
No. I'm not 'deliberately missing the point' You are looking for reasons to try and justify continuing unecessary infirngements on peoples freedom. It is possible that a small number of people may get injured partaking in exercise, just as they may to a greater or lesser degree by doing something else.... That's an acceptable level of risk in order to enable people to engage in a perfectly reasonable level of activity which is beneficial to them physically and mentally.

I'm not blaming the opposition for "Government Rules"...I'm blaming Socialists for constantly promoting much stricter rules.
I am so pleased you know what my motivation is, and consider that risking other people, not yourself, ie the emergency services, is an acceptable risk.

Please feel free to tell us your own views and motivations, but don't be so arrogant as to tell me what mine are.
 
Sorry, but you are being ridiculous...We live in a free Country and it is absolutely vital that we empower people to make their own choices to the greatest possible extent. If nothing else, this lockdown has opened my eyes to bloody Socialism, I'll tell you that for nothing. Wolves in sheeps clothing has never been more apt.... One sniff of the opportunity for State Controlled everything and the Hi Viz Jackets and Clip Boards are out in full force..
😁👍
 
I am so pleased you know what my motivation is, and consider that risking other people, not yourself, ie the emergency services, is an acceptable risk.

Please feel free to tell us your own views and motivations, but don't be so arrogant as to tell me what mine are.
Sorry I didn’t realise you’d appointed yourself as the chief public services protection officer.

Good luck in your new post👍
 
Sorry I didn’t realise you’d appointed yourself as the chief public services protection officer.

Good luck in your new post👍
You are becoming even more incoherent, what has that got to do with me saying I know what motivates me? I trust you are not following the example of others on here when you haven't got an argument, you just insult. Poor form.
 
You are becoming even more incoherent, what has that got to do with me saying I know what motivates me? I trust you are not following the example of others on here when you haven't got an argument, you just insult. Poor form.
I'm not sure that was an insult? I'm just responding to your rather strange logic, with a bit of humour / piss-taking.
 
I read it as drive anywhere for exercise, it needs clarifying.
Boris has caused confusion by rambling and not being precise. Dominic Raab today says "you can go out in your cars BUT stay in your own area". In other words nothing has changed. Hopefully in today's update, they will clarify the confusion they themselves have caused and take a lesson from Scotland & Wales - be clear in what your telling the public.
 
Boris has caused confusion by rambling and not being precise. Dominic Raab today says "you can go out in your cars BUT stay in your own area". In other words nothing has changed. Hopefully in today's update, they will clarify the confusion they themselves have caused and take a lesson from Scotland & Wales - be clear in what your telling the public.
That's what I thought, it's really not clear.
 
I reckon some on here are deliberately missing the point because it doesn't suit their political persuasion to get it.
Every TV show this morning has said the same. Vague, contradictory advice. Nothing to do with political persuasion. If it's so clear, just tell me what Stay alert means.
 
Stay Alert is a fairly simple message really if you get beyond the bullshit of those just wanting to trash everything without engaging their brain.

We are about to start engaging with the environment at large, rather than hiding at home and in doing so it is going to be important that we remain vigilant "ALERT" to the risks posed by the virus in our environment. So Be Alert to the possibility of infection on the door knob, when you come into contact with others, when you open a gate, climb a stile, get on a bus, use a public toilet etc... And take appropriate precautions / actions to control the transmission of the virus.

It really is a concept that a 12 Year Old could grasp, which is possibly why Jimmy ** Krankie up in Scotland has struggled with it so much perhaps.
 
Stay Alert is a fairly simple message really if you get beyond the bullshit of those just wanting to trash everything without engaging their brain.

We are about to start engaging with the environment at large, rather than hiding at home and in doing so it is going to be important that we remain vigilant "ALERT" to the risks posed by the virus in our environment. So Be Alert to the possibility of infection on the door knob, when you come into contact with others, when you open a gate, climb a stile, get on a bus, use a public toilet etc... And take appropriate precautions / actions to control the transmission of the virus.

It really is a concept that a 12 Year Old could grasp, which is possibly why Jimmy ** Krankie up in Scotland has struggled with it so much perhaps.
nicely summed up bifster.
 
So, did I hear that right

from Wednesday we can drive anywhere we want to then take our exercise

Anyone going to the lakes, at the moment, needs a slap.

It’s quite clear the local community and police don’t want people to travel there.

Doing something, because you can, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s right.
 
Stay Alert is a fairly simple message really if you get beyond the bullshit of those just wanting to trash everything without engaging their brain.

We are about to start engaging with the environment at large, rather than hiding at home and in doing so it is going to be important that we remain vigilant "ALERT" to the risks posed by the virus in our environment. So Be Alert to the possibility of infection on the door knob, when you come into contact with others, when you open a gate, climb a stile, get on a bus, use a public toilet etc... And take appropriate precautions / actions to control the transmission of the virus.

It really is a concept that a 12 Year Old could grasp, which is possibly why Jimmy ** Krankie up in Scotland has struggled with it so much perhaps.
Infortunately, it’s not one that Boris has the ability to articulate.
 
Anyone going to the lakes, at the moment, needs a slap.

It’s quite clear the local community and police don’t want people to travel there.

Doing something, because you can, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s right.
To be fair Boris specifically said you could when asked by a local resident !
 
It's an unprecedented and difficult situation not only for the government but for all of us. The government has made mistakes as no doubt have some of us as individuals. And because it's such a difficult situation, it's going to be an equally difficult road out of it. There'll be bumps in the road and more mistakes made. I just think it's up to us as individuals to use common sense and take some responsibility and some ownership of our own behaviour. Not just rely on the government to tell us down to the last minute detail what to do. Pretty much all of us know the score by now. The government can't possibly police the lives of 60 million people. Some of it's down to us.
And I'd be saying exactly the same thing no matter what party was in power.
 
It's an unprecedented and difficult situation not only for the government but for all of us. The government has made mistakes as no doubt have some of us as individuals. And because it's such a difficult situation, it's going to be an equally difficult road out of it. There'll be bumps in the road and more mistakes made. I just think it's up to us as individuals to use common sense and take some responsibility and some ownership of our own behaviour. Not just rely on the government to tell us down to the last minute detail what to do. Pretty much all of us know the score by now. The government can't possibly police the lives of 60 million people. Some of it's down to us.
And I'd be saying exactly the same thing no matter what party was in power.
Question is would you go walking remotely in the Lakes
Reality is there is no reason not to
Equally I am not convinced it's right
 
Anyone going to the lakes, at the moment, needs a slap.

It’s quite clear the local community and police don’t want people to travel there.

Doing something, because you can, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s right.
If I had a car I would drive there and walk alone for exercise and well-being. Being at work 6 days and locked down alone at home the rest of the time I don’t think it’s selfish to protect my own mental health and still socially distance ergo protecting others in the lakes as much as I do when in Blackpool.
 
Question is would you go walking remotely in the Lakes
Reality is there is no reason not to
Equally I am not convinced it's right
TAM personally I wouldn't as I'm not convinced either that it's right at this moment in time. Using some common sense and responsibility and thinking about what's right and wrong in the current situation. I agree there are some grey areas but as I said in the previous post, it's going to be a difficult road out of this.
 
Question is would you go walking remotely in the Lakes
Reality is there is no reason not to
Equally I am not convinced it's right
I would and have. So I would now if I could. But granted some don’t fit that criteria. No government can police your past intentions though. So ye, it maybe abused, but so are most things in life unfortunately.
 
Lala you are a rebel

Not been yet but I am bored of walking around Poulton that's for certain 😂
I am and I’m not. I obey the rules but won’t be told what to do if it conflicts with the rules and based on opions only. And vitally I will protect my mental wellbeing above all, if legal! For everyone’s sake 🥴
And I am totally bored of the walking around FY2 vibe after 8 weeks of compliance 😉
 
I live in Lincolnshire, where the infection rate and deaths have been low. It is fairly easy to find a space in the countryside where you can avoid other people. The real fear here is that there will be invasion of the seaside resorts (the weekend of the lock down announcement saw over 250k go into Skegness alone, with arcades, cafes, pubs rammed and no social distancing). If people fall ill while there then our limited hospital facilities could get overwhelmed and our emergency stretched and distracted. The same could apply to the likes of Cornwall, the Lake District and indeed Blackpool.
 
I live in Lincolnshire, where the infection rate and deaths have been low. It is fairly easy to find a space in the countryside where you can avoid other people. The real fear here is that there will be invasion of the seaside resorts (the weekend of the lock down announcement saw over 250k go into Skegness alone, with arcades, cafes, pubs rammed and no social distancing). If people fall ill while there then our limited hospital facilities could get overwhelmed and our emergency stretched and distracted. The same could apply to the likes of Cornwall, the Lake District and indeed Blackpool.
Totally agree, so my walking is just as dangerous in Blackpool as in the lakes. Who’d have thought 🧐
 
TAM, try the walk along Cleveleys sea front and all the way through to Fleetwood. That's now 'legal' under the relaxation.
I know people in Cleveleys totally pissed off with the amount of people coming in and taking 'their' space as they see it, especially when they have no respect for social distancing.
 
I know people in Cleveleys totally pissed off with the amount of people coming in and taking 'their' space as they see it, especially when they have no respect for social distancing.
Agreed. Cleveleys has always looked like a no lockdown zone. The butchers, 3 pie shops, the fruit and veg shops, boots, Superdrug, M&S, home bargains, herons foods, poundstretcher, Iceland, the local chippy and many others have remained open throughout. BUT with social distancing,
Far safer for all to walk in the hills alone.
 
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