Liar

Immediately after brexit he told expats there would be no consequences. Just saw on the itv news there are thousands being kicked out of Spain.
 
Different heading from the opening poster but only one objective.

Every post ever made by catinstalbans could have the same "Is there any subject Boris Johnson can be trusted on" line.
 
tangerinenotorange said:
Different heading from the opening poster but only one objective.

Every post ever made by catinstalbans could have the same "Is there any subject Boris Johnson can be trusted on" line.
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And the answer is - Never trust Boris Liar because he is one and always has been - just ask the people of London where he used to be our Mayor - always lied
 
Wow! Boris being slammed for reducing armed forces by a leftie. If any of you watched the report on ex pats in Spain, you would have seen that they had plenty of time to apply, but many didn’t do it in time, one guy admitted that he knew there was a deadline, but just didn’t do it in time.
 
Matesrates said:
Wow! Boris being slammed for reducing armed forces by a leftie. If any of you watched the report on ex pats in Spain, you would have seen that they had plenty of time to apply, but many didn’t do it in time, one guy admitted that he knew there was a deadline, but just didn’t do it in time.
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What about the Spanish official who said that anyone who wanted to retire there its now a forlorn hope unless you're very rich. That about sums up brexit. If you're minted it's a non event, it's the biggest con ever perpetrated to the people.
 
Poultongirl said:
He can be trusted to win an election by a landslide majority 👍🏻
he can be trusted to oversee the best and most effective vaccine roll out in the world👍🏻
he can be trusted to piss off lefties😃👍🏻
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No surprise that the apologist for the racist Tommy Robinson backs Boris Johnson when they share so many values
 
Shandypants said:
What about the Spanish official who said that anyone who wanted to retire there its now a forlorn hope unless you're very rich. That about sums up brexit. If you're minted it's a non event, it's the biggest con ever perpetrated to the people.
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Being rich has always opened doors, nothing to do with Brexit, it’s just the way of the world.
 
Matesrates said:
Wow! Boris being slammed for reducing armed forces by a leftie. If any of you watched the report on ex pats in Spain, you would have seen that they had plenty of time to apply, but many didn’t do it in time, one guy admitted that he knew there was a deadline, but just didn’t do it in time.
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Just like the Conservative government with its border checks on goods. Actually even worse, they set the deadline and still could not be bothered to put the required checks in place. 98% drop in salmon exports since Brexit-just teething problems?
 
catinstalbans said:
Just like the Conservative government with its border checks on goods. Actually even worse, they set the deadline and still could not be bothered to put the required checks in place. 98% drop in salmon exports since Brexit-just teething problems?
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Your like crankie, one dimensional, even if Boris had done everything he said he would and got everything right, you’d still find fault.
 
catinstalbans said:
Just like the Conservative government with its border checks on goods. Actually even worse, they set the deadline and still could not be bothered to put the required checks in place. 98% drop in salmon exports since Brexit-just teething problems?
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By contrast the French government imposed a 100% inspection on British animal products imports by hastily employed, ill equipped border staff. Products produced under the same rules as EU on 31/12/20 and still are. The UK on the other hand are allowing a smooth transition. New Zealand have similar production rules and although the rules of import say all imports to EU should be inspected, only 1% actually are....pathetic childish politics?
 
catinstalbans said:
Of course both can be true. We teach our students the scientific value of rounding up or down all the time.
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Are they the same Students that we’re out on the streets of Bristol the other night?
What are your views on that Cat? I see so far you’ve managed to avoid any comments on the thread where your loony lefty socialists cause havoc on the streets and attack Police officers?
 
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Shandypants said:
Immediately after brexit he told expats there would be no consequences. Just saw on the itv news there are thousands being kicked out of Spain.
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That wasn't his call, if you are British and lived in the EU you would have been an idiot to believe him.
Aside from that it confirms another lost opportunity to British people both young and old.
My son is now having to get an Irish passport despite him having minimal affiliation to the country.
And my retirement plans have had to be changed, my arthritic bones really thank the 52% for that one.
But dont worry if you are a millionaire, the Mayor of Mijas says you will still be welcome just not the British people with more modest wealth.
 
Matesrates said:
Being rich has always opened doors, nothing to do with Brexit, it’s just the way of the world.
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Not being able to work or retiring in the EU as a British citizen has everything to do with Brexit. Before I could move there as easily as moving to Yorkshire now I can't. But the millionaires and billionaires who funded the Brexit campaigns still can and do.
They played the working people of the UK like they always do, so predictable but it always works!
 
gjr69 said:
Not being able to work or retiring in the EU as a British citizen has everything to do with Brexit. Before I could move there as easily as moving to Yorkshire now I can't. But the millionaires and billionaires who funded the Brexit campaigns still can and do.
They played the working people of the UK like they always do, so predictable but it always works!
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I should add that the people behind Brexit instinctively oppose any regulation that restricts their money making activities. They would like to return to something more like Victorian times, where money talks and there is little protection for the poor. Brexit is a big step in that direction.
If we had stayed in the EU the ultra-rich would have been subject to legislation that would have forced them to pay tax on money stashed in tax havens. This legislation would have closed some tax loopholes that the ultra rich always exploit and often get away with paying little or no tax despite living in the UK. This money could have then been spent on the little people, like us, funding the things that need funding. Taxation is the price that we all pay for living in a civilised society - except the very rich that is who can often take a free ride on the backs of the workers. There is a very informative documentary about Rupert Murdoch on iPlayer that I would recommend for anyone who wants to know who wields the real power in the UK. Boris Johnson is front of house staff for these people.
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
I should add that the people behind Brexit instinctively oppose any regulation that restricts their money making activities. They would like to return to something more like Victorian times, where money talks and there is little protection for the poor. Brexit is a big step in that direction.
If we had stayed in the EU the ultra-rich would have been subject to legislation that would have forced them to pay tax on money stashed in tax havens. This legislation would have closed some tax loopholes that the ultra rich always exploit and often get away with paying little or no tax despite living in the UK. This money could have then been spent on the little people, like us, funding the things that need funding. Taxation is the price that we all pay for living in a civilised society - except the very rich that is who can often take a free ride on the backs of the workers. There is a very informative documentary about Rupert Murdoch on iPlayer that I would recommend for anyone who wants to know who wields the real power in the UK. Boris Johnson is front of house staff for these people.
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This was known by a lot of us but the message never got across quite like the basic lie on the side of the bus and couldn't compete with the agenda of most of our print media.
Corbyn and the others in the remain camp, though I'm not totally convinced Corbyn wanted to be in it, were also guilty of putting in a pathetic defence for staying in the EU.
Anyway we have cheaper and more plentiful seafood and something called sovereignty so we will have to crack on and make the most of living on this damp and windy rock we have to call home.
 
Shandypants said:
What about the Spanish official who said that anyone who wanted to retire there its now a forlorn hope unless you're very rich. That about sums up brexit. If you're minted it's a non event, it's the biggest con ever perpetrated to the people.
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Does anyone else think it perverse that Brits are whingeing at Boris because EU governments won't allow them to leave the UK and live on the continent?
 
Tangojoe said:
Does anyone else think it perverse that Brits are whingeing at Boris because EU governments won't allow them to leave the UK and live on the continent?
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Well as he played a big part in spreading the lie that we would be better off out of the EU then not really.
I actually don't hold him as accountable as the 52% of people who voted for it. They all have brains yet fell for all the lies and have now gained what?
He has pleased his rich benefactors and will live a full and happy life when he tires of being PM, might even spend a lot of time on his backers yachts and staying in their villas, a tangible benefit for him.
Yet what do most of us get, nothing! Voting for that is perverse, 52% of the population can now be classified as perverts!
 
gjr69 said:
Well as he played a big part in spreading the lie that we would be better off out of the EU then not really.
I actually don't hold him as accountable as the 52% of people who voted for it. They all have brains yet fell for all the lies and have now gained what?
He has pleased his rich benefactors and will live a full and happy life when he tires of being PM, might even spend a lot of time on his backers yachts and staying in their villas, a tangible benefit for him.
Yet what do most of us get, nothing! Voting for that is perverse, 52% of the population can now be classified as perverts!
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That's odd because nearly all of the scare stories about the terrible suffering we would endure once we left the EU don't seem to have materialised. Having said that, people who want to desert the UK and live abroad must abide by the rules of their chosen countries. Nothing more irritating than Brits living on the Costa Sunshine whining about the way the UK is run.
 
Tangojoe said:
That's odd because nearly all of the scare stories about the terrible suffering we would endure once we left the EU don't seem to have materialised. Having said that, people who want to desert the UK and live abroad must abide by the rules of their chosen countries. Nothing more irritating than Brits living on the Costa Sunshine whining about the way the UK is run.
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If I lived there I wouldn't be as bothered about how the UK was run, much the same as people who emigrate to the UK are much more invested in how it is run.
But there won't be as many of them now and to many people there is nothing worse than immigrants, so I suppose that will have made a lot of people happy.
 
Tangojoe said:
You don't convince anyone. If Boris had increased the number you would be first on here to tell us how he should be spending the money on underfed children instead of the armed forces.
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You mean he does convince people that Johnson is a hypocrite; a man who lies without compunction whenever it's beneficial to him. He probably convinces you too but, for you, Tory Party allegiance comes before honesty in public office. No amount of whataboutery will cover that failing.
 
gjr69 said:
Well as he played a big part in spreading the lie that we would be better off out of the EU then not really.
I actually don't hold him as accountable as the 52% of people who voted for it. They all have brains yet fell for all the lies and have now gained what?
He has pleased his rich benefactors and will live a full and happy life when he tires of being PM, might even spend a lot of time on his backers yachts and staying in their villas, a tangible benefit for him.
Yet what do most of us get, nothing! Voting for that is perverse, 52% of the population can now be classified as perverts!
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You have the gift of foresight, then? We're not even 3 months out of the EU yet you know that we are gonna be permanently worse off than when in.
 
20togo said:
You have the gift of foresight, then? We're not even 3 months out of the EU yet you know that we are gonna be permanently worse off than when in.
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I know I am, dont know about you 20s, depends on what direction you want or wanted your life to take. I've had to come up with a plan B but it's not as good.
If the sovereignty thing and the tax affairs of the mega wealthy and in the short term at least making the UK less attractive to immigrants, were your main factors in voting leave, then I guess you are happy.
It's what the majority voted for but I don't have to like it and I cant see me changing my mind on this one.
 
Matesrates said:
Your like crankie, one dimensional, even if Boris had done everything he said he would and got everything right, you’d still find fault.
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Or, you could consider the subject of the OP and provide an opinion on morality vs personal convenience when it comes to lying in public office. The point of the OP is to focus on this issue, not on whether left-wing posters are sincere in their continual criticism of the Tory Government. That debate is played out frequently on other posts. Forget whataboutery. The public elects people in the belief that the values they share wih the electorate are spoken sincerely. This is an instance where the Prime Minister has been shown to be insincere and dishonest. I find that to be disgraceful in high public office because it cheats the electorate and dismisses them as simple vote-fodder.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
You mean he does convince people that Johnson is a hypocrite; a man who lies without compunction whenever it's beneficial to him. He probably convinces you too but, for you, Tory Party allegiance comes before honesty in public office. No amount of whataboutery will cover that failing.
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I said two years back that Gnanduillet was crap, a terrible player. I now think he became a very good player for us when he was here. Did I lie back then or am I not allowed to change my mind or do a u-turn if I'm doing it for valid reasons?
 
20togo said:
I said two years back that Gnanduillet was crap, a terrible player. I now think he became a very good player for us when he was here. Did I lie back then or am I not allowed to change my mind or do a u-turn if I'm doing it for valid reasons?
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When you said that Gnanduillet was crap you were not aiming to use that sentiment as a hook to convince the public to vote you in as prime Minister. There is clearly a huge difference between the value statements we make as individuals and those made publically by politicians -particularly senior politicians - when using platforms to entrap voters.
 
gjr69 said:
I know I am, dont know about you 20s, depends on what direction you want or wanted your life to take. I've had to come up with a plan B but it's not as good.
If the sovereignty thing and the tax affairs of the mega wealthy and in the short term at least making the UK less attractive to immigrants, were your main factors in voting leave, then I guess you are happy.
It's what the majority voted for but I don't have to like it and I cant see me changing my mind on this one.
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Well to me, that sounds as if it's all about what you want. You had plans but have now had to change them, so I get you're not happy.
But as you said it's what the majority voted for and even though you don't like it you just have to get on with it. Because being in a permanent state of anger over it, is not gonna do you any good, nor is it gonna get you anywhere.
 
Tangojoe said:
You don't convince anyone. If Boris had increased the number you would be first on here to tell us how he should be spending the money on underfed children instead of the armed forces.
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1966_and_all_that said:
You mean he does convince people that Johnson is a hypocrite; a man who lies without compunction whenever it's beneficial to him. He probably convinces you too but, for you, Tory Party allegiance comes before honesty in public office. No amount of whataboutery will cover that failing.
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No, I mean that there are only so many ways a poster can say the same thing and the fact that the OP gives each post a different title doesn't deflect from the monotonous repetition. This time, he's actually condemning the PM for reducing the armed forces, an expense which he has criticised in the past.

And yet despite all the animosity from the noisy minority the country is heavily swinging towards the view that Boris is the best leader. If the general election was today, Boris would walk it again. If he's so bad, and he's a persistent liar, why is it that he's so popular with the electorate?
 
1966_and_all_that said:
When you said that Gnanduillet was crap you were not aiming to use that sentiment as a hook to convince the public to vote you in as prime Minister. There is clearly a huge difference between the value statements we make as individuals and those made publically by politicians -particularly senior politicians - when using platforms to entrap voters.
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I think you place far too much emphasis on this issue then. Be honest with yourself, Johnson got in as PM pretty much based solely on the issue of Brexit alone coupled with any lack of clarity from Corbyn. Are you seriously trying to suggest a 9,500 reduction in our Armed Forces would have swayed millions of people who voted for Johnson.
 
I accept your first statement, insofar as that is what you were getting at in the post I replied to.

As for your second statement; well, that is a whole book in itself. To me, you appear to imply that Johnson's continued popularity is a function of his success in office. I say that such a belief may account for one section of those who approve of him - namely, the established Tory voters, and not all of those actually. As for the majority of those who currently approve of Johnson, I believe they include many swing voters, former UKIP and other hard-right voters and some former, established Labour voters. Their reasons for this will be many but I think the principal reasons include a belief in the opinion sections of the right-wing press, a peripheral interest in politics and especially political ethics, and the positive aspects of Johnson's presentational style: cutting through bluster to 'get things done'. Even though the latter is an act, presentationally it works.
 
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