Lord Snooty has woken up.

Presumably though they do their own

Unlikely, why would they not be included in the stats and how likely is it that outside of healthcare 2/3 people being tested have already been tested?


Govt ministers have been pulled for quoting capacity for testing the public

The actual number of tests is so close to capacity there is nothing to pull them up on unless you're somehow pretending that tests performed on healthcare workers don't count.
 
Hancock said the daily numbers were 226,000 individual tests on the Andrew Marr Show yesterday
Being called out on it this morning by Morgan as his own department don’t seem to comfortable in confirming what he said was right
Not sure why it’s made so hard to confirm simple numbers
 
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Hancock is correct and the figures support the numbers quoted.

1. We have a capacity to perform around 240K test in pillars 1&2

2. We process around 226K tests each day on average

3. Some of those tests are performed on people who have been tested before

4. The number of people who have been tested before is an ever increasing number.
 
If Hancock is correct ( and he seemed very sure of himself yesterday ) it begs the question why his own department seemed so reticent in supporting him
 
Well the published figures certainly bear him out and the rest of the figures under discussion are taken from the same published data.
 
I suspect the discrepancy might be in the wording... I.e 226K individual tests vs 226k individuals tested.
That would make sense. He has previous for this type of word play. 1 billion gloves delivered which he extrapolated to 1 billion pairs...
 
Hancock said the daily numbers were 226,000 individual tests on the Andrew Marr Show yesterday
Being called out on it this morning by Morgan as his own department don’t seem to comfortable in confirming what he said was right
Not sure why it’s made so hard to confirm simple numbers

It's all here: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/testing, 233k is the last reported figure for tests (18th), presumably 226k would've been the number for the 19th, it's not clear to me why this hasn't been updated yet.

I don't know what (Piers?) Morgan is calling out, if you could provide further details maybe we could look further.
 
I suspect the discrepancy might be in the wording... I.e 226K individual tests vs 226k individuals tested.

Probably, although many of those people may have been tested on previous days, it's unlikely that there were many repeat tests on the same day, thus the two figures are functionally identical.

Perhaps Morgan was trying to play the new individuals tested trick, but if that is the case he's saying that we shouldn't be testing health and social care workers.

Plus Piers Morgan is a t*** anyway so I wouldn't pay too much attention to what he says.
 
Fair point regarding Morgan..Looks to me like he’s jus baiting Hancock, because he’s bitter that the Government are ignoring him. TBH I don’t blame them... Morgan isn’t interested in listening to his guests, he just rants at his own ‘made up’ / strawman version of literally everyone he interviews.
 
It's all here: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/testing, 233k is the last reported figure for tests (18th), presumably 226k would've been the number for the 19th, it's not clear to me why this hasn't been updated yet.

I don't know what (Piers?) Morgan is calling out, if you could provide further details maybe we could look further.
You can see the interview with Marr and the ' call out ' on PM's twitter feed

It was the Department of Health who distanced themselves from the figure when asked to confirm it

They felt ' the figure wasn't that clear cut '

Morgan doesn't seem to be raising any issue over them being unique tests just simply the number
 
Dr Mike Yeadon calls Hancock out for being deliberately misleading here. (long read)
 
Dr Mike Yeadon calls Hancock out for being deliberately misleading here. (long read)

Nothing to do with the actual numbers tested in there.

What he's saying is that false positives may be causing us to over-estimate the amount of cases in the community and I don't see anything that might be deliberately misleading in what Mr Hancock said.

And the rest of the article seemingly presupposes that the likes of the CSA, CMO and doubtless a large number of other equally qualified people don't understand the problem of false negatives and haven't taken steps to control for it.
 
It's a video of this morning's TV piece - Susanna Reid reads the response from the Dept Of Education

Yes, saw that.

From the way it sounds they most likely they rang up the DoH press office at 7pm on Sunday, got through to the stupidest junior press officer imaginable (or possibly the cleaning lady), and rather than a sensible holding response they managed to badger some poorly chosen words out of him.

Somehow this then morphs into "Hancock is lying" when I'm quite sure we'll see once the figures are published that the 226k was tests performed 99.99% of which were almost certainly on separate individuals.

It would be like ringing up your office junior, badgering him about highly technical legal points and then accusing you of telling porkies when he didn't know how you came to your opinion on a particular matter.
 
Yes, saw that.

From the way it sounds they most likely they rang up the DoH press office at 7pm on Sunday, got through to the stupidest junior press officer imaginable (or possibly the cleaning lady), and rather than a sensible holding response they managed to badger some poorly chosen words out of him.

Somehow this then morphs into "Hancock is lying" when I'm quite sure we'll see once the figures are published that the 226k was tests performed 99.99% of which were almost certainly on separate individuals.

It would be like ringing up your office junior, badgering him about highly technical legal points and then accusing you of telling porkies when he didn't know how you came to your opinion on a particular matter.
So you don't have any evidence to support Hancock either 😉
 
So you don't have any evidence to support Hancock either 😉

It's all here: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

226,000 is in line with other days, it hasn't been updated to include the 19th for some reason but there's no reason to believe that it's going to be anything other than the figure quoted.

That is of course the number of tests processed but it seems to me unlikely that many people would have more than one test per day so it is functionally the same as the number of people tested.

Piers was also whining about Mr Hancock boycotting his show for 146 days; this kind of bulls*** is presumably why.
 
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