Maybe they should extend the early bird

Philbfctrois

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I will be honest i haven't renewed my season tickets yet

I may do but equally i may not, looking at ST sales buying on the day won't be an issue

Last season was a bit of a chore at times and the football wasn't great under Critchley, maybe under Appleton it will be better

I do hope so

But i dont think i can commit week in week out travelling to Blackpool, its a shit commute and i haven’t seen enough from the board to suggest they share the same ambition as me

Get some players in, extend the early bird and we will see
 
Is there a way to buy several STs on that wank V12 finance? Can't find an option to add more client references...Or am I best just ringing up?
 
I will be honest i haven't renewed my season tickets yet

I may do but equally i may not, looking at ST sales buying on the day won't be an issue

Last season was a bit of a chore at times and the football wasn't great under Critchley, maybe under Appleton it will be better

I do hope so

But i dont think i can commit week in week out travelling to Blackpool, its a shit commute and i haven’t seen enough from the board to suggest they share the same ambition as me

Get some players in, extend the early bird and we will see
Make your ** mind up you've done more u-turns than a black cab.
 
Hence why i wanted to know the ambition of the club

If I'm going to buy 4 season tickets and spend 5 hours travelling every other week i want at least an idea of what I'm getting
The ambition of the club behave we've a below financial average rich owner,a ground which is one of the smallest in the league with gates of around 12k over the season and 30 million+ in infrastructure to find competing against clubs awash with parachute PL payments and high attendances.

You not buying a ST compounds the issue but crack on you want something we've never had and never will.
 
Hence why i wanted to know the ambition of the club

If I'm going to buy 4 season tickets and spend 5 hours travelling every other week i want at least an idea of what I'm getting
Football…just in case you didn’t know…..oh and there are plenty of others who travel a fair distance,maybe some more than you, who don’t moan like you…renew or don’t it is your choice…but what exactly do you want the club to say.
Every season is a gamble as to what might happen and I have put my money there for a long time,42 years at a 120 mile round trip every time ,45 if I hadn’t joined the boycott.
Put your love of your football club,which we all know you have,and just renew and see what happens as I have for a long long time.
 
I will be honest i haven't renewed my season tickets yet

I may do but equally i may not, looking at ST sales buying on the day won't be an issue

Last season was a bit of a chore at times and the football wasn't great under Critchley, maybe under Appleton it will be better

I do hope so

But i dont think i can commit week in week out travelling to Blackpool, its a shit commute and i haven’t seen enough from the board to suggest they share the same ambition as me

Get some players in, extend the early bird and we will see

Surprise, surprise.

Not a real fan you boy.
 
The ambition of the club behave we've a below financial average rich owner,a ground which is one of the smallest in the league with gates of around 12k over the season and 30 million+ in infrastructure to find competing against clubs awash with parachute PL payments and high attendances.

You not buying a ST compounds the issue but crack on you want something we've never had and never will.
I haven't said I'm not buying one
 
I don’t like setting deadlines and then just extending them Willy Nilly… It’s not fair on those people who have taken the Club at their word and elected to purchase already.

OK if there are unusual circumstances which might have prevented people from meeting the deadline, but this is just run of the mill….

I agree it would be good to have something fir fans to feel they are getting behind (a bandwagon to jump on as it were) but I think you probably need to make your mind up…
 
I would rather us sign some better players to be honest
We’ve not signed anyone yet. East stand and training ground secures the future of the club for 50-100 years whereas spending even £40 million on transfers at this level doesn’t even guarantee success for 1 season.
I’m very happy with the pay less and develop players approach. Infrastructure and long term stability is key in my eyes. Wanting instant success and big signings is the behaviour of a plastic fan !
 
I don’t like setting deadlines and then just extending them Willy Nilly… It’s not fair on those people who have taken the Club at their word and elected to purchase already.

OK if there are unusual circumstances which might have prevented people from meeting the deadline, but this is just run of the mill….

I agree it would be good to have something fir fans to feel they are getting behind (a bandwagon to jump on as it were) but I think you probably need to make your mind up…
Yeah i might renew

Will see how i feel tomorrow
 
We’ve not signed anyone yet. East stand and training ground secures the future of the club for 50-100 years whereas spending even £40 million on transfers at this level doesn’t even guarantee success for 1 season.
I’m very happy with the pay less and develop players approach. Infrastructure and long term stability is key in my eyes. Wanting instant success and big signings is the behaviour of a plastic fan !
Where have i said i want instant success or big signings?

Quite frankly i haven't
 
I haven't said I'm not buying one
Unless we spend millions on players get real it ain't happening.

Your utterly deluded where's the money coming from?
Or did you think when Simon Sadler took over he had squillions to spunk he's not even in the same league as the nobbers passed away owner.
 
I mean ‘rather us sign some better players’ suggests you’re not happy with the clubs current approach… so it’s a fairly logical conclusion that you want the money being spent on infrastructure to be spent on players… yet we’re bound to make signings for cash (as we did last year and as the owner and management team have indicated will continue) so you want to spend MORE cash. That’s a big signing and spending on players for short term gain over long term stability is pretty much the definition of wanting instant success.
 
Renewing mine tomorrow. Early purchase of train ticket will be around £13 cheaper than last year so I will be able to make a few more games.
 
Yeah i might renew

Will see how i feel tomorrow
I’ve renewed… There’s only me of course, so it’s not the big layout that you’ve got to contend with, but I can’t see me getting to the first few games.

TBH I can’t be arsed with this time of year and the managerial bullshit just makes matters worse. Id happily have pre-season played behind closed doors and will be happy when we’re half a dozen games in ti the season and we can get half an idea about what we’re in for.
 
No I don’t think the deadline should be extended.

In fact I think it should work the other way. Even cheaper if you renew in the first week and then increasing incrementally until the cut off.

And if you miss the cut off you’re paraded in the middle of BR on the first match of the season and your shirt and scarf burnt ceremoniously in front of the North Stand.

A bit like that bloke in the series “Branded!!”
 
I’m looking forward to the new season, much more so than I was under Critchley. Renewed straight away and looking forward to attending even more away games with my lad. I’ve seen plenty of bad times over the past 40 years, and our current position and the future is bright. I do think we might struggle more this season, but that’s when the players need the fans.
 
"i haven’t seen enough from the board to suggest they share the same ambition as me."

Concrete plans for a state of the art training ground and completion of the East Stand aren't ambitious enough for you?

Yes, we haven't made a hot start to this Summer transfer window, but in each window before this one we have put more funds than we ever had into the playing side and I am certain we will again this Summer.

Since 2020, we have splashed fees for nine players (Yates, Lubala, Viking, Gabriel, Dale, Beesley, Casey, Carey, Tharme) which I would guess totaled anywhere between 2,000,000 and 3,000,000 total. Has the club ever spent that much on players ever? That's not even to mention several marquee free agent signings that certainly command big wages such as Madine, Stewart, Dougall, Garbutt, etc.

Genuinely what would the club have to do to convince you that their ambitions were the same as yours?

I don't buy a ST because I live thousands of miles away, but each year I still spend hundreds on the TTV match passes, kit, etc. and I have no issue doing so because I am 110% convinced that every penny is going forward to fuel the high ambitions that the club have.
 
"i haven’t seen enough from the board to suggest they share the same ambition as me."

Concrete plans for a state of the art training ground and completion of the East Stand aren't ambitious enough for you?

Yes, we haven't made a hot start to this Summer transfer window, but in each window before this one we have put more funds than we ever had into the playing side and I am certain we will again this Summer.

Since 2020, we have splashed fees for nine players (Yates, Lubala, Viking, Gabriel, Dale, Beesley, Casey, Carey, Tharme) which I would guess totaled anywhere between 2,000,000 and 3,000,000 total. Has the club ever spent that much on players ever? That's not even to mention several marquee free agent signings that certainly command big wages such as Madine, Stewart, Dougall, Garbutt, etc.

Genuinely what would the club have to do to convince you that their ambitions were the same as yours?

I don't buy a ST because I live thousands of miles away, but each year I still spend hundreds on the TTV match passes, kit, etc. and I have no issue doing so because I am 110% convinced that every penny is going forward to fuel the high ambitions that the club have.
You are right, but do miss something I think.

Plans are just that, plans. They have to start somewhere of course but as we stand they are plans. No turf cut.

There also has to be a balance between the future and now. Extreme I know, but no point having a training ground that would get Messi purring if you're in the NW counties league.
 
I will be honest i haven't renewed my season tickets yet

I may do but equally i may not, looking at ST sales buying on the day won't be an issue

Last season was a bit of a chore at times and the football wasn't great under Critchley, maybe under Appleton it will be better

I do hope so

But i dont think i can commit week in week out travelling to Blackpool, its a shit commute and i haven’t seen enough from the board to suggest they share the same ambition as me

Get some players in, extend the early bird and we will see
You sound like my son. Dad we haven't signed anyone, Dad we'll end up in the bottom 8, Dad etc, etc, etc.
Appy wasn't my first choice but he's been properly recruited by competent people and I'm liking what I'm seeing so far.
It's still only the 28th June, players that we are looking at are probably still under contract and only just back from holiday.
The loan market, where Appy has done so well, probably isn't realistically even open yet.
So a little patience is required.
I do fully understand though living where you do makes life as a Pool fan hard. My 40 mile commute takes half the time it would take me to do the 11 mile commute to Old Trafford.
 
I don’t like setting deadlines and then just extending them Willy Nilly… It’s not fair on those people who have taken the Club at their word and elected to purchase already.

OK if there are unusual circumstances which might have prevented people from meeting the deadline, but this is just run of the mill….

I agree it would be good to have something fir fans to feel they are getting behind (a bandwagon to jump on as it were) but I think you probably need to make your mind up…
I don't think it would be extending it willy nilly, firstly an extra payday can help some and some do get paid on the 1st of months, so a small extension may help there.

Secondly, it's been a bad summer losing Critch and having no manager for a lot of the deadline, it shouldn't affect peoples decisions but we are the hardcore, its not ideal and has probably meant player signing fell back a bit too.

Lastly we have had technical issues not everyone has but clearly many have that isn't ideal either.

With all that why not a small extension, whats the harm in getting as many is as possible. If it helps fans ans gets people in then it's all good surely one benefit of having a fan as an owner is getting things that would benefit fans...? Extra paydays at the lower price would only help people to renew or buy one once the player incoming really start.

If it were me I'd do all I can to get numbers through the door and this would be an easy one.
 
I don't think it would be extending it willy nilly, firstly an extra payday can help some and some do get paid on the 1st of months, so a small extension may help there.

Secondly, it's been a bad summer losing Critch and having no manager for a lot of the deadline, it shouldn't affect peoples decisions but we are the hardcore, its not ideal and has probably meant player signing fell back a bit too.

Lastly we have had technical issues not everyone has but clearly many have that isn't ideal either.

With all that why not a small extension, whats the harm in getting as many is as possible. If it helps fans ans gets people in then it's all good surely one benefit of having a fan as an owner is getting things that would benefit fans...? Extra paydays at the lower price would only help people to renew or buy one once the player incoming really start.

If it were me I'd do all I can to get numbers through the door and this would be an easy one.
FFS it's a poxy 40 quid for a ST earlybird or not over a 23 home game season you seriously think that makes any difference?
Sorry I'm not having it.
 
I will be honest i haven't renewed my season tickets yet

I may do but equally i may not, looking at ST sales buying on the day won't be an issue

Last season was a bit of a chore at times and the football wasn't great under Critchley, maybe under Appleton it will be better

I do hope so

But i dont think i can commit week in week out travelling to Blackpool, its a shit commute and i haven’t seen enough from the board to suggest they share the same ambition as me

Get some players in, extend the early bird and we will see
Can't tell you to spend your money and time but from all accounts the football will be better under Appleton.

Plus you want us to sell as many ST as possible, that only happens if everyone renews.

Looking at the price even with membership id you go to more than 14 you may as well get the ST, keep the first dibs on top away games etc too.
 
FFS it's a poxy 40 quid for a ST earlybird or not over a 23 home game season you seriously think that makes any difference?
Sorry I'm not having it.
Come on of course it does, people are funny creatures, that why 2.99 can sell a lot more than 3 quid, it's psychological too.

People love a bargain or the feeling of not paying more than others.

Plus its about feeling included, if someone just misses out, having been paid on Friday let's say, oh 40 quid more for me and then for Mrs, more for the kid etc ot can be enough to put some casuals off.

People want the club to be more welcoming and attractive, then sensible things like not jumping the price up with no real benefit just because its the done thing can be changed.

There's no harm in trying to get more in and help people.
 
Why all the drama about one dithering fan?
There’s no drama that I can see.
I don't think it would be extending it willy nilly, firstly an extra payday can help some and some do get paid on the 1st of months, so a small extension may help there.

Secondly, it's been a bad summer losing Critch and having no manager for a lot of the deadline, it shouldn't affect peoples decisions but we are the hardcore, its not ideal and has probably meant player signing fell back a bit too.

Lastly we have had technical issues not everyone has but clearly many have that isn't ideal either.

With all that why not a small extension, whats the harm in getting as many is as possible. If it helps fans ans gets people in then it's all good surely one benefit of having a fan as an owner is getting things that would benefit fans...? Extra paydays at the lower price would only help people to renew or buy one once the player incoming really start.

If it were me I'd do all I can to get numbers through the door and this would be an easy one.
1. The extra payday was known about when the scheme was introduced… So nothing has changed…

2. Again, the managerial situation has been known about for ages. We have appointed a new manager in plenty of time. It’s nothing exceptional.

3. The technical issues would (if they hadn’t been largely short lived) be an appropriate reason to consider extending the deadline. As far as I can see they’ve long since been resolved and it’s easy enough to ring up the Ticket Office to buy a ST in any case.

The harm is that it breaks the trust between Club and Supporters and reduces the impact of future deadlines. Essentially you create a situation where fans start to adopt a mindset “don’t worry about buying your ticket early cos they’ll extend the deadline in any case”

If it were up to you we’d be giving tickets away JJ….😉
 
Come on of course it does, people are funny creatures, that why 2.99 can sell a lot more than 3 quid, it's psychological too.

People love a bargain or the feeling of not paying more than others.

Plus its about feeling included, if someone just misses out, having been paid on Friday let's say, oh 40 quid more for me and then for Mrs, more for the kid etc ot can be enough to put some casuals off.

People want the club to be more welcoming and attractive, then sensible things like not jumping the price up with no real benefit just because its the done thing can be changed.

There's no harm in trying to get more in and help people.
The bargain has been going for over 6 whole weeks your clutching at straws as the majority of the population(including my wife) will get paid on the last day of the month.
 
The bargain has been going for over 6 whole weeks your clutching at straws as the majority of the population(including my wife) will get paid on the last day of the month.
If its not an issue to you why so against it? Even if it helped just a few it's worth it.

Now that's what I'd call a club that cares and tried, did something that many might not need but it helped a few.
 
If its not an issue to you why so against it? Even if it helped just a few it's worth it.

Now that's what I'd call a club that cares and tried, did something that many might not need but it helped a few.
People are against it, because it’s completely idiotic to set deadlines and then just break them.

The thought process about when the deadline should be is sone before the deadline is set, not afterwards….

And frankly it would t nattercshat days the deadline was… You’d want an extension regardless..
 
There’s no drama that I can see.

1. The extra payday was known about when the scheme was introduced… So nothing has changed…

2. Again, the managerial situation has been known about for ages. We have appointed a new manager in plenty of time. It’s nothing exceptional.

3. The technical issues would (if they hadn’t been largely short lived) be an appropriate reason to consider extending the deadline. As far as I can see they’ve long since been resolved and it’s easy enough to ring up the Ticket Office to buy a ST in any case.

The harm is that it breaks the trust between Club and Supporters and reduces the impact of future deadlines. Essentially you create a situation where fans start to adopt a mindset “don’t worry about buying your ticket early cos they’ll extend the deadline in any case”

If it were up to you we’d be giving tickets away JJ….😉
1. Agree but why pick that date, would have made more sense to pick the following Monday just to give a little bit of time for those late pay day people to renew or buy, as some like to go down to the office etc.

2. Nothing exceptional but not an ideal scenario.

3. Seems some were still having some issues, some aren't as tech savy, might leave until late and have to scramble.

Just a combination of factors for me I'd extend and if the club said why and did so, I don’t think it would affect the next deadline unless the same happened again.

I would actually give free tickets away at this crucial building stage the clubs in. Its well known we have at time just empty seats, free, cheap deals to new fans etc would help build the fanbase now whilst we're being relatively successful. If the seats were empty anyway....

People argue against saying well then people expect a deal every time, but I dont think people are that thick, people know a promotional deal.

Its also arguably more important getting those new fans hooked than worrying about a few freeloaders expecting it every week.

In a town like Blackpool with the wealth and transience, anything we can do to grow is helpful.
 
Tbf the club have said they will utilise those 3? Deals they're allowed which will be things like reduced priced etc.
 
1. Agree but why pick that date, would have made more sense to pick the following Monday just to give a little bit of time for those late pay day people to renew or buy, as some like to go down to the office etc.

2. Nothing exceptional but not an ideal scenario.

3. Seems some were still having some issues, some aren't as tech savy, might leave until late and have to scramble.

Just a combination of factors for me I'd extend and if the club said why and did so, I don’t think it would affect the next deadline unless the same happened again.

I would actually give free tickets away at this crucial building stage the clubs in. Its well known we have at time just empty seats, free, cheap deals to new fans etc would help build the fanbase now whilst we're being relatively successful. If the seats were empty anyway....

People argue against saying well then people expect a deal every time, but I dont think people are that thick, people know a promotional deal.

Its also arguably more important getting those new fans hooked than worrying about a few freeloaders expecting it every week.

In a town like Blackpool with the wealth and transience, anything we can do to grow is helpful.
Whether or not the deadline set is the right or wrong date is a completely different discussion as to whether the deadline should be extended once it’s been set. It’s a discussion that needs to take place before setting the deadline.

I see no reason in this day and age to leave a week between Month end and deadline date… people don’t receive their wages via pigeon post and it takes about 5 minutes tops to complete the transaction to purchase a ticket.
 
People are against it, because it’s completely idiotic to set deadlines and then just break them.

The thought process about when the deadline should be is sone before the deadline is set, not afterwards….

And frankly it would t nattercshat days the deadline was… You’d want an extension regardless..
Presume you mean wouldn't matter...

Personally I'd do all I can to get people in regardless and would have from the start. Thats my strategy, always has been.

But as for this season, had we had a normal summer, not had tech issues, priced it a bit better given the world outlook and set a deadline that didn't fall on the payday for many or before it for some (if we set it to Monday so it gives a bit more time) I'd be pretty fine with it ending.

Rovers extended theirs, I didnt see people calling them idiotic, seemed sensible because they had no manager and its a positive thing and can be marketed as such.
 
Whether or not the deadline set is the right or wrong date is a completely different discussion as to whether the deadline should be extended once it’s been set. It’s a discussion that needs to take place before setting the deadline.

I see no reason in this day and age to leave a week between Month end and deadline date… people don’t receive their wages via pigeon post and it takes about 5 minutes tops to complete the transaction to purchase a ticket.
For me better to look ahead and pick a date a few days after the majority will have been paid. Afterall with the tech issues, some may try and it might not work.

Also better to change a poor date choice than carry on with it.

If payday is the 30th and people have to go down to the ticket office, with work its all a little rushed for me.

It's all about making things as easy and accessible as possible.

I believe Hull have a monthly DD payment scheme, simple and affordable that way, I imagine people can also just hop in at any time in the season.

This is somewhere we've lacked for me in this type of forward thinking out the box type approaches. Similar with a Morecambe style reducing price ST, so if x amount buy it reduces, encourages more to buy as it goes higher and cheaper
 
Presume you mean wouldn't matter...

Personally I'd do all I can to get people in regardless and would have from the start. Thats my strategy, always has been.

But as for this season, had we had a normal summer, not had tech issues, priced it a bit better given the world outlook and set a deadline that didn't fall on the payday for many or before it for some (if we set it to Monday so it gives a bit more time) I'd be pretty fine with it ending.

Rovers extended theirs, I didnt see people calling them idiotic, seemed sensible because they had no manager and its a positive thing and can be marketed as such.
Yes, I mean you’d always have a reason to extend or reduce prices.

As we’ve discussed before JJ, you’ve essentially got a one track mind on this where cheap cheap cheap is the answer.

Without putting too fine a point on it, you are obsessed with attendance numbers to the cost / detriment of other issues / problems that a football club / business has to balance and manage.

If I was being cynical I’d say that some of that is borne out of a sense of inferiority when it comes to the knobbers, who have more fans than us… It’s clearly something that troubles you and something that they have over you in your tit for tats debates with them.

My advice would be to accept BFC for what we are (and that’s a slightly smaller club than Knob End in fanbase terms at this point in time).

The rebuilding of our fanbase will take years and a lot more than chucking a few cheapo tickets or extended deadlines at people….

We’re on a journey and we have an owner who is willing to invest and to build the Club in the right way 👍
 
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