Mitchell. Gives nothing

When we had the ball on the floor in the first half he was clearly really worrying Stoke. As shown by the 3 yellow cards shown for fouls on him, 2 of which were deep in our half and rather unnecessary.

In the 2nd half when we decided to lump balls to the 7foot 5 Stoke backline he was clearly going to struggle.

Quality player for me.
 
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We struggle against big physical well drilled sides Keshi got clattered from behind countless times. A poor referee who.lost his grip on the game in the first half didnt help.
We tend to run out of ideas when we get bullied in games like tonight. I thought we were solid at the back, we just didnt get the rub of the green. We need to create more chances but I'm sure that will come.
 
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I wanted to see him but he disappointed tonight.

There were times second half where Gabriel was running towards him so you'd want him to make a run in behind but he'd drop short.

He also at times slowed the game down too much rather than take on a man or put a ball in.

Not his best game.

Bowler against tired legs and people on reds looked dangerous every time.

I don't get why players etc didn't sense the opportunity with them not able to touch us, they should have ran at them a lot more.
 
For me it's Bowler in home games and Mitchell for away games. Gabriel was given no support against Sheff Utd by Bowler. Mitchell is better at supporting, Bowler is better when we attacking.
 
Bowlers runs are something else, you can see even when he gets it so far back he's so tricky he can dribble at the guy and go past him or have him backpedaling all the way to the box.

He can run in between 2 players and there's no stopping him.

I wanted to see a bit more of that from Mitchell, at least make more runs in behind, he slowed it down a bit too much at times.
 
He doesn't do much for me tbh. He does have pace and is a worthy squad player. I hope a fully fit CJ can take his place in the squad.
 
Another poor post by the O/P who’s getting to be a habitual bedwetter.

Mitchell offers pace, skill, defensive tracking and awareness plus a threat of goals too.
End of last season and start of this he was one of our best players. Last night he caused a lot of issues on the counter attack but faded second half.
That’s what he offers unlike your piss poor post
 
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He wasn't great tonight but neither was Jerry, we tend to forgive the odd bad game (or even 2-3 in a row) for certain players based on an invisible goodwill meter, Mitchell has shown enough for me that he deserves chances to prove himself at this level (would start Bowler on Sat though personally), pressure is on him to perform next chance he gets though because there's very capable players looking to take his spot.
 
PdxTangerine said:
He wasn't great tonight but neither was Jerry, we tend to forgive the odd bad game (or even 2-3 in a row) for certain players based on an invisible goodwill meter, Mitchell has shown enough for me that he deserves chances to prove himself at this level (would start Bowler on Sat though personally), pressure is on him to perform next chance he gets though because there's very capable players looking to take his spot.
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Agreed. Bowler was poor against the Blades and that’ll often be the case with young pacy wingers - consistency is the challenge.
Beauty is they have to now perform to keep the shirt. We’ve got a nice bank of young talented wide men desperate to start
 
Pauls_Boutique said:
When we had the ball on the floor in the first half he was clearly really worrying Stoke. As shown by the 3 yellow cards shown for fouls on him, 2 of which were deep in our half and rather unnecessary.

In the 2nd half when we decided to lump balls to the 7foot 5 Stoke backline he was clearly going to struggle.

Quality player for me.
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Bang on post is that Paulsboutique.👍
 
Bowler should have come on just after half time to try and get one of their booked players sent off...as poor as Jerry was I would have left him on rather than play Madine against a team than can easily shackle him and stop him winning any headers. I honestly thought Dale and Bowler would be the subs used and would hurt Stoke.
 
Bizarre o/p, Mitchell was class first half, caused them all sorts of problems. How can you forget the Sheffield game so quickly!

In the second half, they changed their approach, stopped us playing out, and as a team / coach we didn’t deal with that. We were less effective all over the pitch.

What fans need to understand is that Mitchell and Anderson give us a huge amount of defensive cover, and remember we are playing against some very good teams / wide players.

You can’t blindly play flair players like Bowler, who as we saw at Sheffield gave no help to Jordan. Bowler really only wants to go forward, and that creates a weakness that you can’t have in the Championship. He’s an exciting player, I like him, and there are times when he should play or come on, but his end product is very poor, I think 1 goal and 1 assist.

Last night I would have taken off Carey second half, as the change they made took him out of the game. I’d have played Madine with Jerry.
 
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Chunkylad said:
Another poor post by the O/P who’s getting to be a habitual bedwetter.

Mitchell offers pace, skill, defensive tracking and awareness plus a threat of goals too.
End of last season and start of this he was one of our best players. Last night he caused a lot of issues on the counter attack but faded second half.
That’s what he offers unlike your piss poor post
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1 goal in 46 appearances ?

Without sounding ultra-negative , Mitchell leads the counter attacks very well. However , he is seriously lacking in end product.
 
I don't think Mitchell is on top of his game at the moment which stems from his time out through injury, IMO.
He's quite obviously a different proposition to Bowler, who I said earlier is a 60/30 player.
The big decision is whether Bowler should start or finish but he didn't get enough mins last night whichever way round you look at it.
Personally I'd start Bowler at home and Mitchell away.
 
This is a very interesting thread by the fact that a lot are saying Bowler should be a first choice and yet only last week there was a thread saying that he didn’t bring much to the game and would be better as a substitute
I’m not advocating that those who have mentioned Bowler above are the same as last week but it is interesting to see responses when things don’t go right.
Stoke are probably the dirtiest team I have seen so far and when a team gets 5 yellow cards in 1 game (first half especially) then there should be some sanctions from the FA. It will be the only way to stop it.
As for last night we did ok and could (should) have scored a couple IMO.
We could have took advantage of those yellow cards if Bowler had come on at half time but hey, Critch has his reasons and for a team that was tipped to be up there at the end of the season we matched them very well.
I think it was Kurt who mentioned a few weeks back that we could match any team in the league and I agree.
Out of interest, I reckon the Blackburn forum will be in meltdown today.
 
Chunkylad said:
Another poor post by the O/P who’s getting to be a habitual bedwetter.

Mitchell offers pace, skill, defensive tracking and awareness plus a threat of goals too.
End of last season and start of this he was one of our best players. Last night he caused a lot of issues on the counter attack but faded second half.
That’s what he offers unlike your piss poor post
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You need to give your head a wobble.

He's weak. In this division he's not strong enough. Powderpuff.
 
Bowler cannot be compared to Mitchell or Anderson, because he’s essentially a winger, whereas they are wide midfield players, who also do their defensive duties.

When we talk about end product, the defensive work is vital. Bowler has little end product going forward and doesn’t defend. You can afford that luxury if the lad is free scoring & creating, but he’s not. I hope he will.
 
Ginge said:
You need to give your head a wobble.

He's weak. In this division he's not strong enough. Powderpuff.
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So they were scared stiff of him, he drew 3 bookings and helped nullify any threat down their left, until we went off?

Interested to know if you picked him out as key to the positive change in our performance at Sheffield?

Your post is powderpuff, lacking in anything remotely resembling football knowledge.
 
Bowler and Mitchell are both a bit sketchy with end product, and they are to me anyway slightly different players. bowler tends to pick up the ball at feet and run at players to take them out of the game , mitchell is very good at getting into good positions to recieve the ball. Thought first half it was pretty evenly matched, might even say we shaded bearing in mind there defence was based on kicking the shit out of pool players.

Mitchell with a bit more compusure might have had a couple himself before half time. The other big difference between Mitchell and Bowler is Mitchell provides a semblance of defensive cover on that flank, and Bowler rarely does.

We do have the players to exploit the flanks, mitchell, bowler, gabriel, Husband and Garbutt, and keshi can do a job on the left but not really a wingers job, but particularly down the right flank we were getting stuck on the touchline because we use reverse wingers and there was no space for an overlap which gabriel likes to do ad he gets in dangerous positions.

Think its harsh to criticise either of them, they are what they are, but saying MItchell gives nothing seems to be just a knee jerk response to a loss.
 
Doc said:
We struggle against big physical well drilled sides Keshi got clattered from behind countless times. A poor referee who.lost his grip on the game in the first half didnt help.
We tend to run out of ideas when we get bullied in games like tonight. I thought we were solid at the back, we just didnt get the rub of the green. We need to create more chances but I'm sure that will come.
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By H-T, the ref had dished out 5 yellows to Stoke. All correct.

However, the foul on Gabriel by Fletcher (from behind sending him into the fencing) was a straight red for me. Or at least another yellow. Either way he should not have been on the pitch to nudge the winner in.
 
I like DM and returning from injury he had an OK game. QPR will be more suited to his playing style.
Several of our players went missing as the game progressed and that was due to the dirty Stoke barstewards kicking lumps out of everything above grass level!
 
Tbh I think both Mitchell and Bowler have lots to offer if used wisely. Mitchell is unfortunately severely 1 footed and becomes very predictable cutting in when played on the right but does have pace and some talent . Couldn’t for the life of me understand why we persevered with pumping a high ball to him ( the smallest man on the pitch ) , bonkers and certainly not playing to his strengths. Mitchell is young and has been hampered with injuries he needs time on the pitch, having said that not so much time that it jeopardises us picking up points. Through no fault of his own I thought he should have come off at HT for fresh legs . The shame for me is we had options to really put Stoke under and take advantage of their players on yellow cards . Mitchell had softened them up and a fresh Bowler would have caused havoc and hopefully we wouldn’t have resorted to the big punt up top. He definitely has a part to play and he will improve under Critchley.
 
I'm somewhere in the middle with regard to Mitchell. Strengths and weaknesses. Attacking wise, not enough comes of his attacking play. He doesn't often find the right ball, and his shooting is poor. But he carries it well, he's quick, and he has s better defensive sense than Bowler, who looks lost out of possession.
 
We have players who on their day are some of the best in the league and can run people ragged. However not everyone has a good day everyday. Mitchell puts the yards in and he can frighten defenders who try to pin him down. He is a dangerous player for us. And so is Bowler, he can run rings round defenders on his day and he is a very dangerous player. With Mr Critchley in charge these could turn into superplayers and may well turn out to be big players even in a higher division. That makes it all the more interesting when CJ returns because if his former talent is still with him then who the hell do you pick? Who do leave out? Lets just trust in our manager, he hasn't done badly so far. It was good to see Charlie last night who was very diplomatic in his chat with the fans.
 
ksteve said:
We have players who on their day are some of the best in the league and can run people ragged. However not everyone has a good day everyday. Mitchell puts the yards in and he can frighten defenders who try to pin him down. He is a dangerous player for us. And so is Bowler, he can run rings round defenders on his day and he is a very dangerous player. With Mr Critchley in charge these could turn into superplayers and may well turn out to be big players even in a higher division. That makes it all the more interesting when CJ returns because if his former talent is still with him then who the hell do you pick? Who do leave out? Lets just trust in our manager, he hasn't done badly so far. It was good to see Charlie last night who was very diplomatic in his chat with the fans.
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Well said Steve
O/P doesn’t rate Mitchell nor Stewart either.
Thankfully we don’t have dinosaur attitudes leading our coaching team
 
It's the new Lavery or Yates, where you can only like one and the other needs to be big fat booed and heckled until our throats are sore.
 
Mitchell is an important part of the squad he causes problems with his pace he is doing very well when you consider he was signed on as a left back.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
So they were scared stiff of him, he drew 3 bookings and helped nullify any threat down their left, until we went off?

Interested to know if you picked him out as key to the positive change in our performance at Sheffield?

Your post is powderpuff, lacking in anything remotely resembling football knowledge.
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What he said ☝️
 
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