More thoughts on yesterday

BFC_53

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One of the main features of Critchley's tenure has been our excellent ability to cope with injuries, and that was again evident yesterday. It's clear that we have better strength in depth than clubs of similar standing in this league (Millwall had their injuries and I think it showed). When you consider how much disruption we've had this season, in a higher league, and how well we've coped with it all, it's really very impressive. I would put it partly down to having players with the right attitude - yesterday's win was down to hard work and determination, and I think in the end we just wanted it more than them.
I ended up wondering where we might be if we'd ever been able to play our full strength side. I think the starting lineup away to Huddersfield came as close to that as any game and prior to the sending off we were outplaying a playoff team at their own ground. It's both frustrating and encouraging in equal measure that we have a full strength team capable of doing that.

Anyway, the other feature of Critchley's tenure has been the ability to keep clean sheets. We had the best defence in league one last season, and that kind of solidity has continued into this (for the most part). We've conceded more than one goal in only 9 of our 27 games so far which gives us a good platform to regularly pick up points. Obviously, we're not going to keep as many clean sheets in a higher division but we've still kept seven so far, and it's that ability to grind out wins like yesterday that gives me a high degree of confidence of staying up quite comfortably. Compare to Peterborough and Reading who can't defend to save their lives. I thought yesterday we were superb defensively, very well organised, and we have players all over the pitch who will do the defensive work, and are positionally aware. We don't always get it right, but then which team does? I'm very interested to see how our defending copes with Fulham's attacking potency next week, and I'm sure our players will relish the challenge.

In terms of staying up, I think yesterday was a big step towards that. I've said for a while that not much more than 40 points will be enough and we're nearly there. The key for me is that none of Cardiff, Reading, Posh, Barnsley are showing any signs of resurgence, and they're running out of time to start one. Derby did, but got a demoralising defeat yesterday and who knows which players will still be there in a weeks' time. More importantly than other teams though, is what our own is capable of. We got a massively deflating, devastating loss to Middlesbrough (in the way it happened) and what did we then do? Got back to back wins without conceding a goal. The mental strength of the side is clear and I can't imagine they would ever go on the kind of run that would end up in us getting relegated from this position. Even though I'm not sure we quite have the quality available (with our injury list) to mount a top six challenge, I definitely think we should be looking up rather than down.

As far as individual performances go, I thought Grimmy showed why he should stay in the team when Maxwell's back, with a couple more important saves. He really has huge potential. The other standouts for me were Bowler and Sterling. Interesting on Sterling that I haven't been that impressed with him so far but he showed his quality and versatility yesterday, and I think he's improving with each game. Presumably we have him until the end of the season? If so, I'm glad. Gabriel did well when he came on too.

Final word for Hamilton. I think he's so much more comfortable playing on the left wing. I know much has been said about inverted wingers - I'm not keen although I get the theory behind it. But I think we also need to recognise that some wingers are more comfortable playing that way than others, and I'm not sure it suits CJ. When he plays on the right, his pace gets him ahead of the full back, but then all that advantage is lost when he stops on gets on to his left. When he plays on the left he can really use that pace to better effect and that showed yesterday. Our best chance in the first half came from his pace and being able to continue his run, and the goal came from that too. I get why some don't rate him - there's something very 'Elliot Grandin-ish' about his conviction. But for all Bowler's trickery (and I rate him very highly btw), it was CJ's runs in behind that won us the game. He still has something to offer, even in the Championship.
 
Good summary.

Defensively, we've tightened up. That's the sort of game we would have conceded from a set piece earlier in the season.

Agree about Grimshaw. I think Maxwell will need to earn his place back in the team rather than walk straight in. We don't know how Moore would have fared but he's unlikely to have been any better than Grimshaw so that looks good judgement as well from Critchley.

As for CJ, he took a lot of stick after the Hartlepool game for no particular reason I could work out - and from a lot of people who weren't there - but yesterday he showed a bit of what he's capable of. All our best three chances came from CJ and he showed a good desire to get back and defend as well. He probably should have crossed it to Bowler for the goal but it all worked out and I'm sure it will get mentioned in training.

Bowler had a good game as well but the lack of an end product is a bit worrying. As for central midfield, we're struggling but with four CMs all injured that's hardly surprising.

I'm not convinced about Sterling at left-back yet as Millwall were generally poor all round but it won't get any harder than next Saturday so I guess we'll find out then.
 
Great post. I've slated CJ but part of it isn't his fault. I wished we could have loaned him out around November time to a League One side.

The Championship isn't a league to play catch up in. Delighted he had a good game yesterday and long may it continue.
 
One of the main features of Critchley's tenure has been our excellent ability to cope with injuries, and that was again evident yesterday. It's clear that we have better strength in depth than clubs of similar standing in this league (Millwall had their injuries and I think it showed). When you consider how much disruption we've had this season, in a higher league, and how well we've coped with it all, it's really very impressive. I would put it partly down to having players with the right attitude - yesterday's win was down to hard work and determination, and I think in the end we just wanted it more than them.
I ended up wondering where we might be if we'd ever been able to play our full strength side. I think the starting lineup away to Huddersfield came as close to that as any game and prior to the sending off we were outplaying a playoff team at their own ground. It's both frustrating and encouraging in equal measure that we have a full strength team capable of doing that.

Anyway, the other feature of Critchley's tenure has been the ability to keep clean sheets. We had the best defence in league one last season, and that kind of solidity has continued into this (for the most part). We've conceded more than one goal in only 9 of our 27 games so far which gives us a good platform to regularly pick up points. Obviously, we're not going to keep as many clean sheets in a higher division but we've still kept seven so far, and it's that ability to grind out wins like yesterday that gives me a high degree of confidence of staying up quite comfortably. Compare to Peterborough and Reading who can't defend to save their lives. I thought yesterday we were superb defensively, very well organised, and we have players all over the pitch who will do the defensive work, and are positionally aware. We don't always get it right, but then which team does? I'm very interested to see how our defending copes with Fulham's attacking potency next week, and I'm sure our players will relish the challenge.

In terms of staying up, I think yesterday was a big step towards that. I've said for a while that not much more than 40 points will be enough and we're nearly there. The key for me is that none of Cardiff, Reading, Posh, Barnsley are showing any signs of resurgence, and they're running out of time to start one. Derby did, but got a demoralising defeat yesterday and who knows which players will still be there in a weeks' time. More importantly than other teams though, is what our own is capable of. We got a massively deflating, devastating loss to Middlesbrough (in the way it happened) and what did we then do? Got back to back wins without conceding a goal. The mental strength of the side is clear and I can't imagine they would ever go on the kind of run that would end up in us getting relegated from this position. Even though I'm not sure we quite have the quality available (with our injury list) to mount a top six challenge, I definitely think we should be looking up rather than down.

As far as individual performances go, I thought Grimmy showed why he should stay in the team when Maxwell's back, with a couple more important saves. He really has huge potential. The other standouts for me were Bowler and Sterling. Interesting on Sterling that I haven't been that impressed with him so far but he showed his quality and versatility yesterday, and I think he's improving with each game. Presumably we have him until the end of the season? If so, I'm glad. Gabriel did well when he came on too.

Final word for Hamilton. I think he's so much more comfortable playing on the left wing. I know much has been said about inverted wingers - I'm not keen although I get the theory behind it. But I think we also need to recognise that some wingers are more comfortable playing that way than others, and I'm not sure it suits CJ. When he plays on the right, his pace gets him ahead of the full back, but then all that advantage is lost when he stops on gets on to his left. When he plays on the left he can really use that pace to better effect and that showed yesterday. Our best chance in the first half came from his pace and being able to continue his run, and the goal came from that too. I get why some don't rate him - there's something very 'Elliot Grandin-ish' about his conviction. But for all Bowler's trickery (and I rate him very highly btw), it was CJ's runs in behind that won us the game. He still has something to offer, even in the Championship.
Its interesting as we don't have anywhere near a big budget for the league but...

Many teams seem to fucus on a first 11 and a few subs. Beyond that is lesser quality.

We seem to have 22 who are interchangeable and that's been Critchley's way since he arrived and why we seem to cope so well with losing key players.

As well as good spirit and coaching.

But its still bizarre to see established championship sides who when they lose their star players suffer so badly given they do have such big squads and at times more players on the books.

We'd have to lose all 4 strikers or at least 3 to really suffer and even then we'd probably switch to a 451 and adapt.

Weve had 1 or 2 midfielders available.

I must say if Bowler went out as well as Anderson we miss them but we also have Dale and CJ, Mitchell.

So our strategy means we have to be really unlucky, which we are btw with injuries.

About time we had some luck.

As for clean sheets its a good habit, however I just wish we'd make the wins a bit more comfortable by not sitting back so much at the end.
 
yep, good o/p. One comment re inverted wingers. I think some players can adapt to it and others struggle. Bowler clearly can because he has the close control to go either inside or out. On the other hand Hamilton doesn't really. He relies heavily on his pace and that usually means running in straight lines so he best hugging the touchline and just going straight down it. Said it on another thread that yesterday our build up play in the first half was that slow he never really got a chance to stretch his legs.
Also that first half showed how we missed that creative no 10. The gap between our defensive midfield players and our front four was just way too big.
 
Good OP. We are defensively very strong for a promoted team with a defence that cost nowt apart from the Gabriel fee. We are very strong in central defence with the likes of Marv, Keogh and Husband. Sterling is a good player at this level in my opinion. Critch takes a huge amount of credit for our solidity, obviously.

A lot of people have been writing CJ off before he's even started a game. The smart money says like delay judgement til he's had a few games to adjust and get up to speed. He has flaws just like Bowler does, but he can make things happen. And he's a potential source of goals as well as assists. We know his finishing is unpredictable but he gets into scoring situations and sometimes gets it right.

We should definitely look upwards, just 4 points behind Forest, but I agree that we have too many players missing to feel confident about that, and the Premier league is a much higher level than we are currently at. You wouldn't even bet on Fulham staying up next season.

But the money would be handy of course. And the journey would be interesting.
 
Good summary.

Defensively, we've tightened up. That's the sort of game we would have conceded from a set piece earlier in the season.

Agree about Grimshaw. I think Maxwell will need to earn his place back in the team rather than walk straight in. We don't know how Moore would have fared but he's unlikely to have been any better than Grimshaw so that looks good judgement as well from Critchley.

As for CJ, he took a lot of stick after the Hartlepool game for no particular reason I could work out - and from a lot of people who weren't there - but yesterday he showed a bit of what he's capable of. All our best three chances came from CJ and he showed a good desire to get back and defend as well. He probably should have crossed it to Bowler for the goal but it all worked out and I'm sure it will get mentioned in training.

Bowler had a good game as well but the lack of an end product is a bit worrying. As for central midfield, we're struggling but with four CMs all injured that's hardly surprising.

I'm not convinced about Sterling at left-back yet as Millwall were generally poor all round but it won't get any harder than next Saturday so I guess we'll find out then.

Good point about set pieces, I did think that yesterday we defended them far better than earlier in the season. They were even using the long throw constantly but we stood up to it well, epitomised when Gabriel won a vital header at the back post towards the end. I think we were more aggressive when trying to win the aerial battles than maybe we were at the start. Plus, Keogh makes a huge difference too.

We still haven't quite got the hang of taking them yet though...
 
Great post. I've slated CJ but part of it isn't his fault. I wished we could have loaned him out around November time to a League One side.

The Championship isn't a league to play catch up in. Delighted he had a good game yesterday and long may it continue.

Agree it isn't a league to play catch up in, and it's really only injuries that have given him this chance. I wonder if we were considering a loan prior to Anderson's injury.

The best thing about yesterday was that it's clear he hasn't lost his pace. That was the big worry early in the season, but it does look like that was due to his injury, which has been properly sorted out now. I liked how he was always looking to make the run in behind. Unfortunately we couldn't pick him out very often, but when we did it caused them a real problem. Pleased for him.
 
Its interesting as we don't have anywhere near a big budget for the league but...

Many teams seem to fucus on a first 11 and a few subs. Beyond that is lesser quality.

We seem to have 22 who are interchangeable and that's been Critchley's way since he arrived and why we seem to cope so well with losing key players.

As well as good spirit and coaching.

But its still bizarre to see established championship sides who when they lose their star players suffer so badly given they do have such big squads and at times more players on the books.

We'd have to lose all 4 strikers or at least 3 to really suffer and even then we'd probably switch to a 451 and adapt.

Weve had 1 or 2 midfielders available.

I must say if Bowler went out as well as Anderson we miss them but we also have Dale and CJ, Mitchell.

So our strategy means we have to be really unlucky, which we are btw with injuries.

About time we had some luck.

As for clean sheets its a good habit, however I just wish we'd make the wins a bit more comfortable by not sitting back so much at the end.

Yes I think a lot of clubs in this league rely on one or two real quality players it seems. I think Bowler is real quality, but our back up is good and I think the question of 'who is our best player', is really quite difficult. Which is a good thing.

Totally agree on your last point - don't want to be greedy but just once could we have a home game that has a comfortable scoreline in our favour! The only one we've had this season is Preston (I suppose if we're only going to have one then we'd choose that one).
 
yep, good o/p. One comment re inverted wingers. I think some players can adapt to it and others struggle. Bowler clearly can because he has the close control to go either inside or out. On the other hand Hamilton doesn't really. He relies heavily on his pace and that usually means running in straight lines so he best hugging the touchline and just going straight down it. Said it on another thread that yesterday our build up play in the first half was that slow he never really got a chance to stretch his legs.
Also that first half showed how we missed that creative no 10. The gap between our defensive midfield players and our front four was just way too big.
I think if Critchley wants to insist on playing inverted wingers, then not selling Bowler is important as he's the best we have at playing that particular way as you say.
Agree with your last point too, it's a huge gap and often causes us to concede possession. Against Huddersfield we looked so much better with Carey playing so it'll be interesting to see if we bring anyone in next week of a similar style/position.
 
I think if Critchley wants to insist on playing inverted wingers, then not selling Bowler is important as he's the best we have at playing that particular way as you say.
Agree with your last point too, it's a huge gap and often causes us to concede possession. Against Huddersfield we looked so much better with Carey playing so it'll be interesting to see if we bring anyone in next week of a similar style/position.
Having a true winger on the left and an inverted winger on the right is an interesting option. It seemed yesterday to allow us to pull them around defensively, at least once we'd put some miles in Millwall's legs. The point about inverted wingers having to stop then lose momentum by turning inside is right. The good thing with Bowler though is that nobody (including him!) is quite sure what's going to happen once he starts running at defenders at speed. Has to be same again for me in the wide positions next week.
 
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